Kommenter Beer Barrel: A Flying F-ck At The Moon

It’s funny, when you think about it: German brewing culture, in some form or other, has dominated the mainstream American beer landscape for, what, a century or so? German immigrants brought lager to America in the 1830s and 40s, and by 1857, lager beers were outselling the previously dominant English-derived ales. Today, we see the descendents of German-style (and the closely related Czech-style) lagers all around us: Not just the core Anheuser-Busch and Miller brands, but Pabst and Stroh’s and Hamm’s and, oh, look, Yuengling Lager is also here.

So why the hell is craft beer today so thoroughly English? Why is it that every new brewery these days starts, not with a pilsner and a schwarzbier, but with an IPA and a stout? The biggest reason’s probably cost: Lagers are a huge part of German beer, and they’ve got to be stored cold during fermentation, occupying time and space a brewery could be using to brew, bottle and ship a new batch of IPA every two weeks. The shortage of good American German-style wheat beers is a little harder to explain, though. Sure, plenty of breweries in this country put out a “hefeweizen,” usually a characterless pale yellow wheat beer that’s a disgrace to the name. The real shame, though, is that almost no one even bothers with one of my favorite styles: The weizenbock, the chocolate banana milkshake of beers. The weizenbock is a wonderful, warming, filling beer and, in this alot’s opinion, the most perfect of winter beers.

There are, though, it turns out, a handful of American craft brewers committed to making German styles. It wouldn’t do to ignore, of course, the fact that the most popular craft beer in the country is Boston Beer Company’s Vienna lager, or that the best-selling craft beer in Texas is Shiner Bock. And then, of course, there’s Victory Brewing Company of Downington, Pennsylvania; a brewery notable more than anything for producing a pilsner that doesn’t taste like stale air. Their seasonal weizenbock, it turns out, is also good.

The paradigmatic German weizenbock is Schneider Aventinus, a dark, muddy, and crazy rich beer. A personal favorite of mine is Weihenstephaner Vitus, a strong blonde beer that’s like an explosion of fruit flavors despite a minimal hop influence. Our beer du jour, Victory Moonglow, splits the difference, pouring a handsome golden brown with a large fluffy head. It’s noticeably clearer than your average weizenbock, which will tend to be relatively opaque with suspended yeast. There’s not a lot of room for inventiveness in a traditional weizenbock, and this one follows the blueprint faithfully. If there’s a flavor the German weizen yeast produces without fail, it’s that of bananas, and that’s at the forefront here. It’s balanced by some semisweet chiocolate, a touch of clove, and a bit of roast. At 8.7% ABV, it’ll hit you hard in a hurry, but it tastes like a beer maybe half as strong.

lady snow says: It tastes like a harvest. It tastes like what you would want to drink after a long day harvesting in the fields, and you have a dance afterward? This is what you would drink at that dance.

tl;dr:  I’ve yet to find a brewer, other than maybe Austin’s own Live Oak, that makes a weizenbock truly on par with the original German offerings. But on a cost-per-ounce basis, this is a great way to satisfy your weizenbock cravings or curiosity; you’ll pay five bucks or so for a single pint bottle of Aventinus, where this comes at nine bucks or so for a four-pack.

Grade: Do not buttchug this. It’s like shoving a banana split up your ass, it’ll get you drunk, but… wait. Bad comparison. But don’t. Your butt doesn’t have taste buds, is what I’m saying.

Bonus mini-review: I’ve talked a lot about “traditional” weizenbock above. If you want a weizenbock that’s not traditional but that is delicious, Brooklyn Brewery collaborated with Schneider on a hop-forward weizenbock, Hopfenweisse, that I can’t recommend highly enough to the sufficiently adventurous drinker.

make it snow is an alot of beer. He drank one bottle of Victory Moonglow Weizenbock last night, and three more today to make sure. He’s not thrilled with this 21-0 Michigan lead.

In writing this review I relied on work from Serious Eats beer historian Lisa Grimm, which can be found here.

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make it snow is an alot of beer. He is also a Broncos fan living in Denver.
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JerBear50

I tried Moonglow about a year or so ago and was not happy with it, but maybe I’ll give it another shot based on your rec. I’ve had a few of theirs but haven’t seen the weizenbock before. I’m a big fan of German beers and Vitus is probably in my overall top five favorite beers, but the Moonglow just didn’t do it for me. I’ll have to look for the Aventinus too.

On a related note, for Oktoberfest, a bar down the road from me actually has Vitus and Korbinian on tap. I’ve been in my absolute glory. Drunk and broke, but glorious just the same.

Lothar of the Hill People

Had some Ommegang Gnomegang last night. If you like wheat/trippels, you’ll like it. Deep flavor, a little dry on the finish so you aren’t overwhelmed with the aromatics.

I’m gonna drink a lot more of it, if I can find it in the store.

Sill Bimmons

Try the Victory Golden Monkey, a classic Belgian at 9.8% ABV.

Lothar of the Hill People

Golden Monkey is awesome, affordable, and is my go-to beer for most occasions anymore. Especially since Sam Adams made their unbelievably good doppelbock nearly unavailable.

Lothar of the Hill People

I know I already replied, but I need to stress for those who have not had Golden Monkey. It’s damned good. It comes in six-packs that are priced about 2 bucks a bottle. It’s a heavy-hitter ABV-wise, but it doesn’t feel like you’re drinking alcohol soup. It pairs well with light-flavored foods, and holds up with red meat and salmon, too.

It is, quite simply, a fantastic beer. Unless you just hate trippels/Belgian whites, you cannot go wrong buying this beer. I feel like a shill (but not a Sill), but you won’t regret it.

Weyerbacher Merry Monks is very similar in most ways. Some batches I’ve had have been a little sweeter, with the alcohol flavor a bit more pronounced, but otherwise the two beers are pretty equivalent. Except the Weyerbacher is usually more expensive.

I’ve had batches of both Golden Monkey and Weyerbacher that haven’t been stellar–probably got too warm in transit from the distributor, or maybe sat on the shelf too long. But as long as you get a decent batch (and I’ve only had one “bad” six-pack of each, ever), you’ll be very happy.

JerBear50

I like both, but Merry Monk is definitely not hopped as heavily as Golden Monkey. They run the same price by me, actually the Weyerbacher usually being just slightly cheaper. Golden Monkey is much more widely available though. Publix grocers and WaWa gas stations both stock it around here.

Sill Bimmons

I never had a Victory brew I didn’t like.

Horatio Cornblower

I really don’t like wheat-style beers.

/reads the following: “the chocolate banana milkshake of beers.”
//pulls up chair

All right; you have my attention. Go on.

Lothar of the Hill People

A good hefe is a joy. Bad ones have funky notes that leave you trying to figure out what it tastes like. Banana? No, fruitier. Cardamom? No, sweeter. Bubblegum? Oh yeah, that’s it. Wait, why the fuck does this beer taste like bubblegum? That’s awful!

Cuntler

This time of year, Santa Fe Oktoberfest. Tschus.

Cuntler

It’s delicious with a side of Chitcharito.

Cuntler

So you fuckers hate me for bailing? Noted. Go, not Cardinals!

Old School Zero

/looks at banana split poking out of his ass

But what if I need to plug a leak?

Also, I wish I had read this before heading to my bottle store, because checking their list, THEY HAVE THIS AND I COULD HAVE BOUGHT IT! I may got back and buy it anyway.

Today I picked up a veritable specialty pumpkin beer tasting flight–Anderson Valley Pinchy Jeek Barl (Wild Turkey barrel-aged pumpkin beer), Jolly Pumpkin La Parcela, Almanac Farm To Barrel (bourbon barrel aged sour brown pumpkin), and pFriem Pumpkin Bier. The Elysian Dark O’ The Moon I got a while ago has already been consumed, but I still have a Sleigh’r Pumpkin to try.

Outside of the pumpkin ridiculousness, I now also have Moose Drool, Anderson Valley Blood Orange Gose (so salty!), and my own four pack of Sophie (I LEARNED IT FROM YOU, DAD!). I think I’m good on beer.

Except for this Moonglow thing. DAMN YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU! /farts out a cherry and sprinkles

Old School Zero

The bottle shop guy sold me on it–said it had a strong bourbon presence with the spice of a pumpkin beer, and considering it was affordable for a bourbon aged ($10), I figured what the hell.

Old School Zero

Not sure. I’ll keep my eye out.

Lothar of the Hill People

I would kill (lots of bugs) for another Moose Drool. Drank that by the pitcher when we were hiking the Grand Tetons. Damned fine beer.

When I was out in Seattle for a conference a few years back, I was able to indulge in my Moose Drool addiction. It was as good as I remembered.

laserguru

I’ve had many of the Anderson Valley offerings but I think their oatmeal stout is my favorite.

sunrisesunrise

Now I’m thirsty. Damn errands ruining prime drinking time.