Wichita, O Wichita! or No Fun With Peter King: Tuesday Open Thread

So Peter King is stepping back from his primary(?) gig writing 11,000 words per week as a columnist for NBC Sports.

This is indeed the end of an era, and you will see a thousand fauning tributes to the football equivalent of everyone’s favorite sells-insurance-but-really-wanted-to-be-a-standup-comic uncle.

Not here, obviously. Even our deeply-felt eulogies tend to have a bit of an edge to them.

By all accounts I’ve read, Peter is a genuinely nice guy. That seems to have lain at the heart of his professional success- he can talk to anyone, make them feel special, get them to open up a bit, then share that with America.

It also made him a shitty journalist.

Peter King was the prototype for the modern Access Whore national sportsdude, concentrating on centering himself, his friends and his narrative over providing any real insight or analysis. NFL people (particularly management and coaches) were willing to talk to him because they could be certain King was going to be exceedingly kind in his articles, and that steady sources would be protected from criticism.

Moreover, his writing was shit. If you didn’t think too hard, you could read his column and come away with the impression that you had learned something. It sounded like sports journalism, in the same way you can ask ChatGPT to write a brief and it will sound a lot like actual legal filing.

But it’s not, and if you scratch the surface the illusion falls apart. King’s writing, beyond windy prose to convey basic facts, is a collection of clichés, internal contradictions, and NFL orthodoxy from the Church of Everybody Knows, blended into a fine paste and spread on Stoned Wheat Thins to trick you into thinking it’s Fancy.

Hell, Kissing Suzy Kolber was built on a foundation of pointing out the bloviating fartsniffing horseshit King was spouting beneath the veneer of the Grand Old Man of NFL Press.

And that’s before we get into his mid-to-late career addiction to inflicting his personal passions and observations on us. I’m not talking about his daughters’ softball stuff- even Saint Dr. Z inserted personal color on occasion. I mean the Acela Quiet Car. The Allagash White. King insisted on kidnapping the reader and forcing them to wander through the dusty corridors of his brain.

Every single column teetered precariously on the edge of Grampa Simpson Wearing an Onion on His Belt.

Listen: I do this too. But I’m a rank fucking amateur. A forgivable quirk for me is a deeply annoying tic for a professional.

King is a nice man, and I hope he enjoys retirement. And like so many things, his longevity itself gives him a thick coating of nostalgia to paper over the flaws. But he paved the way for toxic idiot Take Merchants and Access Whores like Pat McAfee and Shams Charania, and I will not forgive him.

NFL News:

Not much at this point- everyone is gearing up for the Combine. Mostly it’s a lot of empty talk and feints around pending or potential free agents: who will get the franchise tag, who could be traded/released, what teams will do to get under the cap, etc.

-Shaq Barrett: free! The Buccaneers star was a cap casualty. They save $5 million, when they already have $48 million in cap space. Unless they are making a run at Kirk Cousins (or trading for Russell Wilson for some reason) this seems stupid. Hopefully he ends up on a real team.

-Tee Higgins: bound! The Bengals make their #2 (maybe 2a) wide receiver the first franchise tag recipient of the year. The former second-round pick will make $21.8 million, roughly 2.5x the total he has collected in his 4 year career. Cincy is in a weird place, with Ja’Marr Chase’s 5th year option (broadly equivalent to a franchise tag) and likely giant extension looming next year. That is also when Joe Burrow’s cap hit becomes Serious (jumping from $29 million to $46 million).

So I would not be shocked if the Bengals choose to ride out the year with Higgins on the tag. Higgins has little incentive to sign a long-term below-market deal, and would likely again be the top free agent receiver again next year. The Bengals can’t afford to give him an at-market long term deal, because some other team (Jacksonville?) would definitely pony up WR1 money. Interesting hand of poker here.

-L’Jarius Sneed: Weird! KC has informed their star corner that they are prepared to tag him, with an eye toward trading him if they can’t work out a long term contract. This seems fair, given that the cap hit for the tag ($19ish million) is more than their cap space ($17ish million). Sneed is on board with a potential sign-and-trade, although I’m  not sure what the mechanics/cap significance would be.

Sneed and Chris Jones were the Chiefs two likely tag targets, and this seems to signal either a confidence in getting Jones signed without the threat of a tag or a willingness to let Jones walk. The potential of losing both (even with draft compensation for Sneed) puts a crimp in KC’s potential to threepeat, unless they trade Sneed for a wideout.

See you on the other side of the Combine!

 

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Brick Meathook

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Gumbygirl

I brought my SIL’s dog home with me for a few days because she’s having her kitchen renovated, and Roxie freaks out when there are strangers in the house. We’re all going up to Big Bear tomorrow, looking forward to seeing some snow. As far as I know, these are not her new cabinets.

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Doktor Zymm

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ballsofsteelandfury

Barely an inch.

– D. Favre

Mr. Ayo

Looks like a lot

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WCS

Bring supplies going through Donner Summit. Don’t get THE HUNGER.

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Gumbygirl

Not supposed to get anything until the weekend.

WCS

Late night hawkey is the truly the greatest hawkey.

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Doktor Zymm

And penguins are the greatest birds, so it works!

Mr. Ayo

See you Thursday

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Way to prove the point by constructing this gem of a sentence, vastly superior to anything in PK’s ouvre:

King’s writing, beyond windy prose to convey basic facts, is a collection of clichés, internal contradictions, and NFL orthodoxy from the Church of Everybody Knows, blended into a fine paste and spread on Stoned Wheat Thins to trick you into thinking it’s Fancy

BrettFavresColonoscopy

It’s still good story spinnin’…

WCS

MAYBE

Gumbygirl

Could use a little Gerald, but a solid effort!

Brick Meathook

In a Girl Scout “S’More” cookie, the marshmallow part is actually solid sugar. Hmmm.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Yeah it’s very disappointing, like finding out your Internet friends like dosidos more than samoas.

Brick Meathook

Samoas are my new favorites (since I ate all the Dosidos)

Dunstan

Sitting in a hotel room in Phoenix, which I would think there must be a song about.

Game Time Decision

Sounds like a punishment of some sort

Dunstan

I mean, Maclean & Maclean did “Two Nights In a Toronto Hotel”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0QS5TCBEEo

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Brick Meathook

🎶 By the time you get to Phoenix, Gerald will be there . . .🎶

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMb681nTLIo

Brick Meathook
ballsofsteelandfury

Glorious!

Gumbygirl

Wow, I miss him. Our time here didn’t overlap for long, but he was always so nice. And hilarious!

Brocky

So iu won, but apparently someone pulled a fire alarm?

They do know they need to knock the cobwebs off the banners every decade or so?

Don T

Peter King wound up working for Mike Florio. That’s gotta be a demotion in every way because PFT is like a hot potato cart that looks like a hot dog cart from afar. Fuck that shit.

Doktor Zymm

I have 2 more final round interviews over the next couple weeks, plus a manager interview tomorrow. Since the behavioUral/conversational portions of these things require their own special form of communication that is pretty much only used in job interviews and testifying before Congress, that’s the part that has been my bane thus far. So I’m fixing the problem the way I fix most stupid, artificial problems: with a spreadsheet. STAR methoding the crap outta my ‘tell me about a time you..’ stories over here.

Game Time Decision

Good luck

Doktor Zymm

Thank you!

Don T

Rapport and trust are big. How to convey those vibes in laboratory / interview conditions is tricky. But trying to shift the interrogation into a conversation can help. “I see you favor Linux and toupees” that sort of thing.

BugEyedBoo

The manager of one of our development groups had an all-afternoon interview with the candidate and all the members of the group (small gang of five developers including the manager) that included lunch, just as a ‘get to know this person’ interview session. No gotcha questions or designing on a whiteboard, just more to see if everyone thought they could stand working with the person. I thought that was a great idea.

herodotus450

Maaaan fuck outta here with these HR-type questions, I’m tryina balance these BOOKS, yo!
Either try that or just make more and more cruel remarks at the expense of the local weather.

WCS

 pretty much only used in job interviews and testifying before Congress,

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Brick Meathook

Remember: TREAT ‘EM LIKE SHIT. You’ll not only get hired, you’ll get paid more.

2Pack

Go crush them.

ballsofsteelandfury

Best of Seamus:

I had lunch with him one time in Venice with Asia, the black girl he picked up at a pot shop on one of his trips out here. She was nice, had a banging body, and clearly LOVED the weed.

I’m not going to say he was in love with her, but he was happy and she obviously enjoyed his company.

My advice to him on that day as he was worried about what to do with her?

Don’t think. Just enjoy the present.

After lunch, I left and they went back to the hotel room to bang.

Redshirt

Word is the Bengals are planning to keep Higgins but if a team wants to offer a high round pick, they’ll listen.

If I was GM, I wouldn’t listen to anything less than a 1st Round pick. We already got a playoff caliber team so we don’t need to panic. We’re going to use Boyd and they don’t have anyone ready to step up to be WR2. Best to draft a WR or TE in the 1st Round and try one last run at the Superb Owl with Higgins.

But if you can get a 2nd 1st rounder for him, then draft a WR and either OL or defense with the extra pick.

King Hippo

It’s very hard to get draft pick capital for a WR you have to pay a real salary to.

Redshirt

You only need one crazy GM/owner…

King Hippo

Josh Marshall set the “How Big an Assholes are Michigan Voters?” o/u line at 17% (for “Uncommited” in the Dem primary). Let’s find out!

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Redshirt

I’m really like what I’m hearing about this Uncommitted candidate. I think that’s finally something we all can rally behind.

Dunstan

Given that it’s essentially meaningless (Biden is not in any danger of losing the nomination), I give it a 3 out of 10 on the douchebag scale. Not a 1 because it will still generate a bunch of “Biden’s gonna lose Michigan in the general!” freakout pieces, so it’s not entirely consequence-free. But I recognize that some people wanna play their dumb games, and this is a relatively safe space to do it.

Gumbygirl

I’m hoping it’s just a primary protest and they get their shit together in November. I find it hard to believe that anyone would think Agent Orange is the better choice for Palestine. And staying home in a swing state is as bad as voting for him.

ballsofsteelandfury

Holy shit I just clicked the link to the TWBS tribute post and it got dusty. Then I clicked the link there to the Goddess series and fuck I miss writing with that dumbass. He was a lot of fun.

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Brick Meathook

You should post some “Best of Seamus” tributes. The one where he goes to meet his “girlfriend” at a motel in Baltimore and there’s an old man in the room has got to be first.

King Hippo

He died before he could tell me that story in full. Or else I was too crunk to remember the details.

ballsofsteelandfury

Holy fuck! That guy had a name too! I remember him telling me that! I think we incorporated that into one of our stories!

King Hippo

He would maintain his manners in such a situation.

ballsofsteelandfury

It was GERALD!!

Brick Meathook

I know he wrote about it because I read it.

Doktor Zymm

Do you think there is a scout somewhere that thinks of himself as a Combine Harvester?