Some Care for Caretakers: Offseason Sunday Open Thread

Back in 2012, when hotmail was a thing and Jeeves panhandled for questions, Chuck Pagano got his first head coaching job, with the Colts. Pagano hired Bruce Arians as Offensive Coordinator after the Steelers kicked Arians out and threw a gold watch towards the sidewalk. In Week 6 of the 2012 season, Pagano received a leukemia diagnosis which, at that time, was not subject to replay review. Arians stepped in as caretaker HC and the Clots were at 9-3 when Pagano returned. So dynamite caretaking, yes. That also turned into two successful additional HC stints for Bruce Arians.

From what I remember: the Arizona stint was notable for that wtf! Carson Palmer season. Two things stand out about the 2015 Birdcano: for, like, four weeks straight Arizona played on prime time (twice by flex IIRC). The other thing I remember was Palmer being worse than Andy Dalton in postseason play.

The time in Tampa [spits on floor]. Not because of Brady, whom I can tolerate. Arians kowtowed to Brady but treated other players like this:

The NFL fined Arians $50,000 for hitting a player, which reinforces my bias against him because… Goddammit. You just. Don’t. EVER hit folks you supervise, and never ever EVER in the workplace. Yeah, yeah; I can hear the ole testosterony “Ya wouln’t understand FITBAW CULCHER PUSSAY!1!11!

Uh…

[takes off glasses, breathes on lens, wipes them]

[puts glasses back on, folds wipe and places it on case, closes case, crosses leg]

Wrong! If someone swings at you, psht. Wherever you live, humble reader, The Street condones retorting by a total ass-whalin’. But swinging at your boss will get your fired AND probably get ya blacklisted in your industry. Every option is terrible for the employee (dignity… or work?), but enough pre-May Day agitprop. Bruce Arians did well as caretaker and ended up as a tyrant. At least he got top jobs, unlike Steve Wilks.

Steve Wilks replaced Arians at Arizona in 2018 and before the season ended, he was replaced by Kliff Kingsbury. The ‘Boids, infamously, gave Kingsbury an extension until 2027 and fired him in 2022. For all folks who must work for a living, like me: that’s four consecutive years of high compensation for doing whatever the hell you want to do: travel, develop projects, start a new career, or, my personal preference,

The winner in this story, of course, is KK’s agent—who was also Kyler’s agent, the one who initially signed off on the no-gaming contract. KKK bringing shit to Arizona? I never suspected.

In the meantime, Steve Wilks participated in the Brian Flores lawsuit against the NFL. He claimed in court the Cardinals hired him as a bridge coach. And because lawyers know that making arcane arguments is more profitable than pointing out the obvious: the lawsuit does not mention that Wilks was stuck with 10th overall, 2018 pick QB Josh Rosen. And so Lawyer DFO will continue to toil in obscurity, until the day legislatures pack the courts with judges who are overt NFL fans.

I don’t think Steve Wilks is a litigious fella, just a coach always overlooked. After the Keimening, in 2019 Wilks became the DC of the Freddie Kitchens Pauls. Fun Fact! Kitchens was caretaker OC the year before, after the Pauls fired Hue Jackson (Week 8). The 2018 Pauls finished 5-3, thus unleashing the Baker Mayfield overexposure, our age’s most gratuitous blight.

Wilks then was the DC of the University of Missouri in 2021, and a Carolina Panthers defensive coach under Matt Rhule in 2022. Wilks became caretaker of the 2022 Panthers, a team with no viable QB and who traded CMC as part of the Rhule fire and subsequent fumigation of the team facilities. Carolina finished 2022 at 7-10, but were 6-6 under Wilks. Steve Wilks is now the Niners DC, substituting DeMeco Ryans.

NFL NEWS

-Of course, the NFL draft was this weekend. According to reports, your team did awesome / WHY?!!. I’m in the latter camp because in 2022 the Titans WR room had less talent available than the Brian Jonestown Massacre after a fentanyl binge. Notable fact: all of the Tits’ pix were offensive players, including [googles] QB Will Levis. I liked what I saw: Levis got the Green Room 1st Round slight (crucial shoulder chip), but he’s an Academic All American and played in Kentucky while getting his masters degree. Objectively solid son-in-law credentials, if yer into normie shit, but I’ve been around the block already. Rhodes Scholar DB Myron Rolle did not contribute much to the Tits.

SPROTS TONITE

All times Central.

NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs

Ooo eee. A couple of Game 7s.

Panthers @ Bruins – 5:30

Kraken @ Avalanche – 8:30

Mood:

Via r/SeattleKraken + postimages

Grandes Ligas

Filis (Falter) @ Fokin Astros (Urquidy) – 6:00

 

Top Flight Fútbol

SECSI MECSI

Querétaro hosts Pachuca – 6:00

León hosts Tigres UANL – 8:05

EEUU – MLS

MinnesoUta United hosts FC Dallas – 8:00

 

ARGENTINA

Unión Santa Fe hosts Lanús – 5:30

Talleres (Córdoba) hosts Rosario Central – 6:30

 

COSTA RICA

Alajuelense hosts Puntarenas – 6:00

EL SALVADOR

Metapan hosts Santa Tecla – 6:30

GUATEMALA

Xinabajul hosts Coban Imperial – 6:00

 

COLOMBIA

América de Cali hosts Deportivo Cali – 6:20

Boyacá Chicó hosts Bucaramanga – 8:30

 

CHILE

Copiapó hosts Coquimbo Unido ‘ 7Ñ30

 

PERÚ

Carlos A. Mannucci hosts Unión Comercio – 7:00

ECUADOR

Delfín hosts El Nacional – 6:00

BOLIVIA

Jorge Wostermann hosts Atlxtico Palmaflor – 6:30

FINALLY,

a case of caretakin’ I like a lot. In 2004, the Giants sign Tom Coughlin (🖕🏼), get Eli Manning in the draft, and sign Kurt Warner. The Web says the 2004 Giants started 5-2 with Warner. Then, after two losses (5-4), Eli came in and the Jints finished 6-10. I remember two things: Warner not being good, which is wrong; and, Warner being pissed because he was signed under the pretense that he will compete for the QB Alpha Slot, the very nerve, but this turned out to be a tank job for the rookie-with-connections to get his legs.

Ok. I can believe Giants brass pitched this to Warner: you are The QB for 2004 and with you the whole team will give an earnest try for a playoff push.

C’mon. It’s utter flattery that has to be transparent to even the most naïve Jeebusbot. Neither the lie nor the liar is a problem. It’s clear to me; look at it as a long distance relationship. Eli, the fiancé, is abroad in Rooqbland, but Warner’s here now. Warner’s an Owl winner and former MVP and, as that era’s Jerry Springer Show proved repeatedly, “You’re never there!” is grounds for couples’ reshuffling. So you can believe that Warner’s understanding of the Giants pitch being: “Seduce me, thrill me with your overpowering arm and accept me as I am, warts and OLs, and I will forsake NFL royalty forever!”

It never happens that way, only in stories. But I’m fine with the outcome. Warner went to Arizonia in 2005 and, later, to the Owl against Pittsburgh: one of the most exciting events I’ve ever seen. What a game. Otherworldly athletics all around: Fitzgerald being unstoppable, the 98-yard TD return at the end of the first half, Santonio’s toe tap…

Out of the Giant’s caretaker stop, Warner went on to cement a Hall of Fame career out of the slight in Jersey. Which might be just me shoehorning an event into a theme. But this background makes me tolerate Eli Manning eventually getting in the Hall of Fame. Sure, 18-1 helps, but let’s be honest: Eli became the most approachable Manning That Matters. That’s how you take care of a legacy.

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Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

How many sci-fi comedies are out there? Ghostbusters and Weird Science come to mind as #1 and #2 in my estimation, but what else is good?

WCS

Back to the Future, you philistine.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I’ve read that is considered to be an effectively “perfect” script and it makes sense. Up there with Hot Fuzz is that every single thing that happens or is said has a purpose.

Mr. Ayo

Spaceballs.

It’s like I’m surrounded by assholes

LongtimeLionsLoser

“Keep firing, Assholes.”

Dunstan

Galaxy Quest

Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy

Dunstan

(If you’re limiting it to movies, then HHGtG is probably not “good”)

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

It’s not “bad” thanks to the casting, but yeah, it certainly doesn’t do the book or the radio show justice.

Dunstan

Yeah, I didn’t hate it, but can’t really recommend it to anyone. It’s for completists only.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Bill and Ted

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Men in Black
Batteries Not Included

Mr. Ayo

20 minutes to glory.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

– Bob Kraft, sitting in traffic on his way to a “spa”

Horatio Cornblower

20 minutes my ass. It’s Bob Kraft, not Sting.

Mr. Ayo

Settle down, Buddy

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Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I am looking at tour dates for the band Spoon (see below) and they are not coming to Los Angeles. The closest they will be is Irvine, which is…not far, I guess, but that area smells too much like Spam.

Fronkenshteen

Ooh! The ol’ bruins got knawcked out in the first round, huh? That stings I’ll bet.
If the Rangers can knock out Los Diabolos in game 7, that’s most of our nemeses on the links before round 2. Let’s go Rain-Juhs!

Sharkbait

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Dunstan

If the Florida Panthers knock off the Leafs after taking out the Bruins, I may have to buy one of their bandannas

Horatio Cornblower

For the record I am eating popcorn and drinking this, courtesy of occasional visitor and an a lot of beer Makeitsnow:

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Horatio Cornblower

12.5% and it feels every bit of that.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Jesus that’s stronger than my wine.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

I’m jealous

Horatio Cornblower

I’m not a huge fan. It’s way too boozy for an oatmeal stout and it’s got a burned taste that goes way past roasted coffee and into “the local Starbucks burned down; there were no survivors.”
Second one I’ve had courtesy of Snow from the same brewery and I absolutely loved that one. Go figure. WEIRD!

Sharkbait

That looks excellent

Horatio Cornblower

It’s not. See above. That said, they have one called ‘Well Bred’, and Snow sent me the version aged in bourbon barrels and it’s absolutely one of the best beers I’ve ever had.

Even if this one isn’t for me I love a brewery that just goes for it and doesn’t try to make every beer in a way that appeals to the most people. This one doesn’t work for me, but if you’re way into smoked and high ABV beers it might work for you. Copper Kettle ain’t care.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Debating whether to have some more wine with cheese puffs.

It’s not really much of a debate.

Horatio Cornblower

I’m really not sure what the cheese puffs are even for. You’re just going to get cheese dust all over everything and we all know how that’s going to end.

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Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

We own the center one, and something very similar to the one on the left.

Horatio Cornblower

We have the early version of the one on the left. Same color, too.

Gumbygirl

Mine is so old it doesn’t have a ball. Works fine, good enough for me! It is that same color, that weirdo cult leaderish Dyson guy must like purple.

Sharkbait

Absolutely have more wine.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

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Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Ghostbusters is probably my favorite comedy (certainly my favorite sci-fi comedy, scoring a Secretariat-style victory over Weird Science) and Rick Moranis as Vinz Clortho is a large part of why.

Horatio Cornblower

I don’t think I’ve done comedy movies as a mock draft yet and oh hey, guess what?

(I’m still going to draft Kelly’s Heroes first so that Sharkbait can’t)

Horatio Cornblower

I’ll catch the latest episode after we finish doing that hockey, but is anyone else watching ‘Barry’? Holy shit this last, (supposedly), season is amazing.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I watched like 5 episodes while my wife was out of town. It was good but I didn’t stick with it. Can’t explain why.

Horatio Cornblower

Can’t explain, or won’t?

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herodotus450

Felt like a show with the classic problem of “should’ve only been 1 season”

Horatio Cornblower

I both disagree with you and absolutely understand where you’re coming from on that. They could have easily ended it all with “starting…now” and been an all-timer, but I have enjoyed where they’ve gone since.

Mr. Ayo

Haven’t had time yet but will watch soon.

King Hippo

I didn’t like the last episode of season previous, but my DVR is still recording it. I take your recommendation for tomorrow morning, when less pill-drowsy.

The gap in the vortex between “nodding off” and “naptime” – you have entered The Hippo Zone.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly
Horatio Cornblower

‘Tis the Krakening!

WCS

THE KRAKENING COMMENCES

Mr. Ayo

Fuck! And Yes!

Mr. Ayo

OG! KRAKEN!

WCS

Well, well.

Sharkbait

Grubauer is keeping Seattle in this.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

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Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Eatin’ chocolate, drinkin’ wine.

WCS

Dok’s going be kicking your door in shortly, so be ready for that.

Doktor Zymm

I’m kinda meh on chocolate

Gumbygirl

That is not a sentence in English. My brain will not accept it.

2Pack

For a guy in an interem director job currently, your timing (and writing as usual) is spot on Don T.

/going for a 9-8 record here BTW…

Doktor Zymm

An email I received from my best friend in 2007:

order me a spork now. thats an order. bitch. crack whore spork consumer. advanced bullshit artist. You forged your disrotation on bull shitery. You and your leaky nissan can got fuck your selfs with a titanium mace. besides that this is bat cuntry and theres no time for your non sesnaceaical rambalings.

 

senserlry

genarale disorintaion

 

PS

he who makes a beast of himself

buys me a spork

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Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

You forged your disrotation on bull shitery.

You were best friends with Emmitt Smith?

Mr. Ayo

So, where’s the picture of the spork?

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Doktor Zymm
King Hippo

Dok has indeed lived our best life.

Horatio Cornblower

I didn’t know you knew Lea Michele. Now I feel bad about all those jokes.

WCS

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Horatio Cornblower

It’s funny because Dave is alway wrong and his wife left him.

Horatio Cornblower

Great awareness there by #49, blocking his keeper from getting his glove on the puck and freezing it.

Sharkbait

Not to mention screening him. He had no chance at that shot.

Horatio Cornblower

No, that was clear on the replay. Never saw it.

WCS

THAHT WAHS FACKIN GREAT NO ONE DENIES THIS

And now, for the Krakening.

Senor Weaselo
Horatio Cornblower

Just got a text from my son: HA-HA

That was all.

Dunstan

Alright Panthers. You have one more job to do.

WCS

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Dunstan

2021-22 Florida Panthers: “We had a terrific regular season and then shit the bed in the playoffs.”

2022-23 Boston Bruins: “Hold our beer.”

Horatio Cornblower

I feel bad about my friends who root for the Bruins, but my God the depression in Jack’s voice is going to carry me for weeks.

Sharkbait

The hockey group chat I’m in is a depressing place to be right now

Horatio Cornblower

Please tell them I said

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Dunstan

HAHAHAHAHAHA

FUCK YOU BRUINS! FUCK YOU!

Mr. Ayo

Hahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha haha

Hahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha

herodotus450

Hahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha
Hahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaHahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha

Horatio Cornblower

Are the Panthers holding McAvoy’s family hostage? Jesus he’s having a wretched few minutes here.

Mr. Ayo

Game 7 version of Release the Kraken.

I regret not being there.

King Hippo

Charmslinger says TEH POWER OF CHRIST is with the Ice Donks!

Horatio Cornblower

Hear me out: In every game 7 OT during the Cup play-offs one player from each team is allowed to carry and use a knife, but no one is told which player.

Dunstan

“But currently all of our players are allowed to murder our opponents with impunity!” — Bruins

Senor Weaselo

Is it Marchand? It’s always Marchand.

Horatio Cornblower

Oh I suspect he’s carrying at least 2 already.

Game Time Decision

On his feet

Horatio Cornblower

FWIW* I called 4 OTs earlier when texting with a friend.

*Nothing. It is worth nothing.

WCS

How about both games go to double OT?

Horatio Cornblower

Has the other game started yet? I’ve been glued to this one.

WCS

Not yet. HAWKEY TWEEKER GAME 7s

Horatio Cornblower

I took tomorrow off. I’m in for the duration.

Mr. Ayo

Star spangled banner being sung now. SOON!!

LongtimeLionsLoser

I am hoping for The Krakening

King Hippo

Recurring Hippo Nightmare, that re-played on constant loop last night – for some reason, I go back to my old DC firm (that I left March 2000) and try to get my job back. Everyone except my buddy Neal (from fantasy football auction league) just points and laughs. Then, I have a bitch of a time getting out of the building (weird elevators).

I hated living in NoVa, and would go play in traffic before ever trying to move back. I have no idea what this dream means, beyond general self-hatred and acknowledgment of professional failure.

Anyway, Hippo could have written this song about Other Hippo, or I guess more sensibly, vice versa:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=659pppwniXA

Horatio Cornblower

WE’RE WATCHING A GAME 7 OT HOCKEY GAME HERE HIPPO; GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER!!!

Doktor Zymm

I remember roughly 2 spots in NoVa that were kinda fun and I’m pretty sure they’re both closed now. Both the Maryland suburbs and DC itself are far superior.

King Hippo

We liked Bethesda, but couldn’t even pretend to afford it.

Doktor Zymm

There are some older condos away from the main part of Bethesda that are reasonable for the area, but yeah, it’s pretty overpriced in general. My parents were lucky enough to buy in Rockville before they started calling it ‘North Potomac’

WCS

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Horatio Cornblower

Getting out my cocaine and revving up my motorcycle while the helicopter pilot orders the crew to restrain me.

WCS

It’s Game 7, so that coke is cut with biker meth.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly
Horatio Cornblower

Thank you. Could not remember who tweeted that.

Gumbygirl

Does he pronounce it boys or bwah?

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

It’s funny how much I love the Celtics yet hate the Bruins.

Doktor Zymm

I feel like the Celtics are somehow the least hateable Boston-area team, possibly because they somehow manage to be fun to watch while also having the ridiculous Boston-Irish schtick complete with the soft-C pronunciation (and don’t try to insinuate that having a soft C somehow makes the city less manly!)

herodotus450

Lady Boudica would be pissed

WCS

OVERTIME GAME 7 ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED

LongtimeLionsLoser

Ice Fins!!!

WCS

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Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Perfect gif.

LongtimeLionsLoser

He has the doomsday device!

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Mr. Ayo

WHAT THE FAHK?

Dunstan

SUDDEN CHANGE!

Doktor Zymm

In an effort to improve my sleep and to find a no-prep bedtime drink in a smaller unit than a wine bottle, I ordered a couple different types of those frou-frou adaptogenic drinks. I got sampler packs of both Recess and Tranquini, which both clock in at under 30 cents per fluid ounce. The Kin Euphorics ones look decent, but they’re around $0.80/oz which is just stupid expensive.

Yesterday I tried the raspberry lemon Recess flavor, and while I don’t think it really impacted my sleep at all, it was enjoyable to drink and served the overall purpose of a bedtime drink so I’m gonna call it a success. Tonight I think I’ll try the Hibiscus Tranquini.

Horatio Cornblower

Time for Florida to pull the ol’ Bridget Moynihan and pull the goalie.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Kind of a missed opportunity for a THIS GUY joke, but well done nonetheless, Horatio.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Ice Jaguars are looking frighteningly incompetent.

Doktor Zymm

Warm weather cities having teams that excel in winter sports just highlights how far we’ve gotten from the concept of sports teams that represent a city and it’s people.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

It’s a funny coincidence that Don T picked the Jack Nicholson banner image, because on the previous thread I made a joke that referenced the Simpsons version of The Shining.

WCS

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BrettFavresColonoscopy

Finally watching the Weird Al movie. I’m intrigued.

Doktor Zymm

All of the teams failed at the draft because none of them drafted this cat, who will surely surpass Jay Cutler as the league’s most successful cat
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrL-b0ZpUWI/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Doktor Zymm

Do these embed?

No, code block deleted

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ballsofsteelandfury

It has to end in .jpg, .png, or .jpeg

Doktor Zymm

.jpeg works now? I’ve always had trouble with those

Way too much trouble to try and get a Reel into postable format

Horatio Cornblower

We’re at 69 comments on the early post, so I came over here.

WCS

nicely done

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Usually the 69 makes me come wherever I am at that moment

Horatio Cornblower

“Personally I find it distracting” I say, as though I weren’t over 50 and married for 28 years.

Dunstan

So you’re saying it taint your favorite thing?

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Um…you know that it’s still okay for married people to do that position too, right?

ballsofsteelandfury

Not when the vacuum is running.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Seriously, how many things can suck at once?

Dunstan

“Challenge accepted.” — Cleveland Browns

BrettFavresColonoscopy

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Mr. Ayo

Those bail out power plays are effective!

ballsofsteelandfury

Real España finished in third place in the Clausura tournament in Honduras after tying at second-place Olancho yesterday 0-0.

It appears there is no Liguilla like in México.

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