Tag It and Bag It: Tuesday Open Thread

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Welcome, K-Mart shoppers, to another episode of Rev Has Strong Opinions on Areas He Knows Little About.

The Franchise/Transition Tag deadline has come and gone today. For those keeping track at home, the Toe Tag deadline is March 11, by which time teams have to cut enough salary (and usually veterans) to squeeze in under the salary cap.

Four players got some form of restriction placed on their impending free agency. As a reminder, the non-exclusive franchise tag entitles the tagging team to two first-round draft picks if someone else signs the player, while the transition tag entitles the tagging team to a chance to match an offer (with no compensation if they choose to let the guy walk). Teams and players have until the summer to agree on a multi-year deal or everyone gets stuck with the one year tag deal.

BREECE HALL (RB- NYJ): franchise tag, $14.2 million

Yeah, ok. The Jets have $74 million in cap space AFTER tagging Hall, and fuck-all to spend it on with Garrett Wilson already locked up and everyone else of value already traded. Hall is the only weapon the Jets have that does not require a decent quarterback. Barring a Daniel Jones-Sam Darnold-Geno Smith style miracle resurrection of a retread, the Jets will not have a decent quarterback, so keeping Hall was the bare minimum the team could do and still look like it was trying.

And no, there will be no miracle resurrections. Look at the list- the Meadowlands is the place where guys get resurrected from.

KYLE PITTS (TE-ATL) franchise tag worth $15 million.

I mean, different guys learn and mature at different rates. Week 15 of your fifth year is a little later than most #4 overall picks, but he was Huge and Fast and Strong at his pro day, and he had 166 yards and three touchdowns the day that one annoying prick in your fantasy league started him on a desperation flyer in the playoffs.

Yes, I was that prick. Suck it, Samwise.

The Falcons are in a very odd place. They are about to jettison Kirk Cousins, and an optimistic timeline puts Michael Penix back from his ACL tear about a week before the season starts.

With a new offense to learn.

With a(nother) bum knee and a playing style that needs mobility.

With questions already about whether he’s up to the job.

So with comparatively little cap space (this leaves the Falcons with about $6 million) and crying needs at both quarterback and offensive line, keeping Pitts is usually the sort of dubious double-down on an underperforming high draft pick you normally associate with a desperate GM hoping with a last throw of the dice not to get fired. Or the Giants. But this is a new regime, and new Football Czar Matt Ryan has no ties to Pitts other than overlapping Ryan’s last year playing in Atlanta. Curious move.

GEORGE PICKENS (WR-DAL) franchise tag, $27ish million

God, I love the toxic reactor that is Dallas. Jerrah and Co didn’t draft Pickens, but they are doing the double-down thing to try and salvage the ruinous gamble they made on ANOTHER player- Dak Prescott. Prescott cannot be cut this year- his dead cap number is more than the GDP of several small nations. But next year? A post-June 1 cut would save the Cowboys $45 million.

So Dallas has one season to figure out if the 33 year old Prescott is worth keeping. In Jerry’s head, that means giving him the splashiest players at the splashiest position so that he can either take credit if things go well or get righteously indignant at the quarterback when it doesn’t work out.

I GAVE YOU THE BEST BEEF IN THE WORLD, WHY DIDN’T YOU COOK AN AMAZING STEAK?!?

Because the only pans left in the kitchen had rusted through?

Anyway. I have no idea if Pickens is unhappy with this or not. Usually players are not, unless a long-term deal is imminent and this really is a formality. Pickens is another Pittsburgh Receiver Headcase, so I assume he would have spoken up if this really offends him.

DANIEL JONES (QB-IND) transition tag, $38 million

Jones isn’t coming back at all until late September-October, and (more than Penix) his game depends on his legs. So he’s unlikely to be Early Season 2025 Jones until mid November at the earliest, assuming he doesn’t revert to Most of His Career Jones entirely. Paying $38 million for half a season seems insane. Those are Dak Prescott rates.

Colts GM is trying to let the market set itself for Jones, because his value is so uncertain. That could end with some dumbfuck with lots of cap space (Jets), no intent to compete this year (Jets) and nothing to lose (Jets) taking a run at him and daring the Colts to roll with trade-seeking Anthony Richardson. Or maybe they sign Cousins as a younger, less talented Phillip Rivers?

LATE EDIT: All falls into place. Colts are going to sign Kyler Murray off his release by Arizona to a one year prove-it deal. Murray starts until the next Call of Duty is released, which is usually late October or early November- just in time for Jones to take the reins.

 

 

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Unsurprised

God help me. I’m watching a rerun of Thursday Night Football. Bucs vs. Dirty Birds

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I’ll call WCS.

WCS

Tuesdays and Wednesdays are my weekend. You all can get straight to hell.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

All the Bears fans are freaking out about their Pro Bowl center retiring at 27, but they’re forgetting the important thing: all of this is meaningless and we’re hurtling toward the inevitable heat death of the universe whilst accelerating humanity’s demise through technology and our own inhumanity.

blaxabbath

The NFL ought to offer than to the union next. Out by 27 or you all cover the medical bills!

ballsofsteelandfury

Spoken like a true Bears fan.

ballsofsteelandfury

Also, this is why you people drink Malort.

“All of this is meaningless and we’re hurtling toward the inevitable heat death of the universe whilst accelerating humanity’s demise through technology and our own inhumanity. Drink Malort!”

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Where are my residuals?

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I just finished a book called Zoey Is Too Drunk For This Dystopia and at the end there’s a promo chapter for the author’s next book and one of the characters is named “Malort”.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

In finance there’s a term called “exit liquidity” which basically refers to the folks who get suckered in by the hype and buy a stock at the top, providing the “liquidity” for insiders to cash out at high prices.

This whole thing with arming the Kurds and sending them against what’s left of the IRGC seems very much to be exit liquidity but for war.

Unsurprised

The Turks and the Azeris and al Qaeda (Syria) and other Kurds don’t want Kurds getting shit. And …

https://xcancel.com/karimfranceschi/status/2029011561193365879#m

Gatoraids

Liked someone on bsky referring to this as the Fyre Festival of military operations

SonOfSpam

Pretty insulting to the Fyre guys to be honest

Unsurprised

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Doktor Zymm

Don’t know if we’ve discussed or not, but the NFLPA report cards came out a few days ago. Mostly what you would expect with a handful of surprises. Yinzburgh was basically shit across the board except for head coach, so another indication that next year has the potential to be an epic clusterfuck. I’m getting more and more curious how the AFC North is gonna play out next season and it’s still only March

ballsofsteelandfury

Clusterfuck is the perfect word

blaxabbath

Mike Bidwill don’t even give a fuck

SonOfSpam

Regardless of his sexuality, which some have said leans toward the reptilian

jjfozz

So it’s March, which means and Mrs. Fozz have our annual “disagreement” about her putting a GREEN wreath on the door and an IRISH banner thing on the front lawn.

Me: “We’re Italian!”
Her: “But I’m part Irish on my mom’s side. They’re Irish.”
Me: “Yeah, but they don’t drink. What the fuck kind of Irish are they? Plus some of them are born again. Not fucking Catholic. That’s fake as fuck.”
Her: “Asshole.”

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ballsofsteelandfury

It’s not your fault you are correct.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

What other color would a wreath be?

jjfozz

Ah, we have multiple wreaths to go with each season. I hate each and every one of them.

Doktor Zymm

So really you should be putting up an orange wreath and bombing a pub or two to celebrate

Unsurprised

FUCK!

Gatoraids

da missus father commissioned a genealogy back in the day thinking they were very irish including a family crest and when results came back very french he smashed it into pieces. me being at least 25% and with right name chortled and wrote in notebook luck over

Unsurprised

Wait. So, shouldn’t that all be orange and car-bombed?

SonOfSpam

Mrs Fozz explaining why she doesn’t think of herself as Italian:

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Horatio Cornblower

I like Dak Prescott very much, but his contract is insane.

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Doktor Zymm

Truckfulls of cash is the only reason anyone would want to be the franchise QB in Dallas nowadays

scotchnaut

Clemson is sticking with NC so far. Fairly interesting.

WCS

It’s distinctly possible that Pickens becomes the player that finally drives THE OL’ DOUBLE JAY’s heart to asplode.

NotShogunButShogun

We can’t have nice things. You know why.
*Self-judges in wasp*

blaxabbath

I want to see Kyler go and get the Alex Smith treatment somewhere. Show he can do it outside AZ.

scotchnaut

Preferred landing spot? He’s pretty good within an O that gives him a bit (not a lot) of room to improvise.

blaxabbath

No clue. I like the idea of the Clots for many reasons, not the least of which is that, as a place, it seems to suck.

Doktor Zymm

Minnesota would be interesting. Or Atlanta

Redshirt

Nobody:

Me: “SPIRIT! BOMB!”

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scotchnaut

Some thoughts-

-The Colts have someone sober in charge (as far as we know) for the first time in forever. No Kyler. A Murray signing reeks of a Falcons move because Blank is trying to move into the Top Three Dumbest Owners.

-Jerrah is all about the thrills-he’ll plow stupid money into the offense and ignore the defense. He was called out over and over again about “All In” and he’s going to go about it this time around in the scatter-brained way that any billion-gerian would.

-You can take the headcase out of Pittsburgh but it just gets amplified in Dallas.

Brick Meathook

In honor of Dok’s new diet here’s a slice of Apple Pie with Tillamook vanilla ice cream and some caramel.

The secret to including this in a low-calorie and low-sugar diet is by lying to yourself.

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BrettFavresColonoscopy

I thought the secret was opium

Brick Meathook

Or opiates

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scotchnaut

I’ve mentioned it before but I went on an (unintentional) ice cream/peanut butter toast/fried egg diet one summer while hauling milk around town 70 hours a week and playing pickup basketball almost every night. I lost 42 pounds in short order and ended up in the hospital.

Doktor Zymm

The Orange Cream flavor of Ice Cream For Bears is my new favorite thing. It’s almost the Platonic ideal of ice cream

Brick Meathook

I had to exchange my rental car because it had a rattle noise in the forward suspension. It was a Nissan Altima, which I’ve never driven before. I was hoping to get a Toyota Camry, which after renting many many vehicles the Camry is the best car ever. Economical and reliable too. I think I’m going to buy a 2024 Camry for the east coast.

But in exchange, I got my second favorite car, a Subaru CrossTrek! I didn’t even know I liked the Camry and CrossTrek until I rented them and drove them for 2 weeks. And I’ve rented BMWs, Teslas, Lexus, VW crossovers, everything.

The first time they gave me a Subaru I even joked about it being a lesbian car.

My friend Dan is a biker and covered in Harley Davidson tattoos and clothing. I give him a ride home sometimes when he gets too drunk. I tell him I’m going to put him in the Subaru and just play Indigo Girls and take a photo of his drunk-ass in it and then photoshop a “COEXIST” logo on his Harley ball cap.

(NOTE: A Subaru is not really a Subaru until it has a COEXIST bumper sticker on it)

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ballsofsteelandfury

Hey, as long as you commit to munching rug, I believe you will be accepted into the Subaru community.

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2Pack

I had one of those when I last rented and hated it. Very unstable at highway speed. Friggin Chitty Chitty Bang Bang hunk of junk.

Brick Meathook

Not the ones I got, and I drive them on the Capital Beltway and I-66 with zero regard for any human life including my own. You must have rented a dog because my CrossTreks have been rock solid, like a lesbian’s ass cheeks. Your experience sounds like my beloved Ford Explorer back in California, which wasn’t built for high speed. Above 80mph it starts to get real squirrelly, mainly because of its Model-T era suspension and rear leaf springs. But it will carry a ton of cargo because of its Model-T era suspension and rear leaf springs.

2Pack

It was an Altima, may have been a one off dog, but I was really disappointed in it. No fun menacing fellow drivers with a rattling dawg.

Brick Meathook

Oh the Altima, I had to return it after one day because the suspension rattled.

2Pack

Same issue I had. Very giggity over 55 mph

Gumbygirl

Years ago I rented a car in Nashville. There was some sort of drama amongst the Hertz employees, so the one who was waiting on me upgraded me in spectacular fashion, because he had enough of Karen the Supervisor’s shit. I paid for a compact car, drove out of there with a ginoUrmous Cadillac, loaded up like a fancy French brothel. A couple of days tooling around in that, and I was pretty sure I DID own the road. And had a lifetime’s supply of Grey Poupon!

blaxabbath

I fell like Jerruh doesn’t want to just win a SB. He wants to win a SB with guys who all used their last good year with him. He doesn’t want to hand out one single reward-him contract. Jerruh has to be the first and last to crescendo.

ballsofsteelandfury

Pickens got PAID. He is going to COAST SO MUCH next year, it will be hilarious!

Redshirt

I’m putting the over/under at him not running a fake route on a RB play at Week 12.

WCS

It’s going to be so, soooooo funny.

Redshirt

It’s going to be like when Chad Johnson broke the huddle early as soon as he heard it was a running play so the defense instantly knew it was a running play.

And Ochocinco actually tried-…ish; who knows what an unmotivated Pickens going to do?!

scotchnaut

I envy you-you have Slim and Carl to draw from joke-wise.

edit: Holy Crap-he might have been the first wide receiver to go to the Titans to kill his career! Happened way back in 2000.

Last edited 2 months ago by scotchnaut
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