Oscar Night 2018 Open Thread

Good evening, Commentists! It’s Oscar night, and I’m here to set the stage for your finest cinematological dick jokes. Here are the nominees for Best Picture, ranked, and my predictions for which of them will actually win.

10. Darkest Hour

Impeccably acted and unexpectedly pretty to look at. There are no bad movies nominated for Best Picture, just great movies and good movies and movies I’m actually a little angry at for not being as good as they could have been, and Darkest Hour is just a good movie. It’s the year’s second-best film about the evacuation of Dunkirk, depicting an emotionally complex but morally sanitized Winston Churchill in one of his life’s more admirable moments.

9. The Post

Full marks to Stephen Spielberg and everyone else involved for turning this movie around extremely quickly. Spielberg got the film in March or so of 2017, and my first memory about The Post is being surprised to learn it existed, in November 2017 or so. It’s a smart, entertaining newsroom flick, not on the level of, say, Spotlight, but an achievement all the same.

8. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

This one, yep, this is the one that could have been so much better. Three Billboards is a great movie about the destructive power of grief, and a great movie about a woman raging against an uncaring patriarchal order (the dentist scene is an especially wonderful moment in this vein), a great movie about family violence, even, and a totally clueless movie about racism and police violence. Yeah, maybe it’s cathartic seeing a black billboard painter fearlessly face down a racist cop in the middle of nowhere, but it’s not believable. Mildred uses black people as goads and as props, to needle the police and to justify her crusade. This would be great commentary if Three Billboards seemed at all aware that this was what she was doing, but instead it mostly falls into the same trap as its protagonist. I went into Three Billboards wanting to love it unreservedly, and if McDonagh had been a little more realistic about his ambitions for the film, I’m sure I would have.

7. Call Me by Your Name

Look, I don’t want to tell anyone how to do their job, and even if I did I don’t think the casting director for Call Me by Your Name would listen, because it scored one acting Oscar nomination and could conceivably have had two more. But, Timothée Chalamet and Armie Hammer don’t look 17 and 24 years old respectively (the ages of their characters in the book Call Me is adapted from), they look respectively younger and much older, and while I don’t really think Call Me is a story about sexual predation, that’s a lot harder to reconcile with what’s actually onscreen than it needed to be. I don’t blame anyone for being uncomfortable with this movie, and it’s too bad because it really is beautiful and touching otherwise.

6. Phantom Thread

That’s a hell of a thing for Paul Thomas Anderson to spring on his audience right at the end of his movie, isn’t it? (If you don’t know what I’m talking about, trust me, just watch the movie. It’s worth seeing and it still hasn’t made its budget back.) You could reasonably accuse Phantom Thread of dragging for much of its runtime (my parents almost walked out of it from sheer boredom) but if you watch carefully, it’s always laying the groundwork for that one ridiculous moment. Side note: I saw that Jennifer Lawrence didn’t like this movie, which is funny because it’s about exactly the same thing as mother!.

5. Lady Bird

lady snow’s Best Picture for 2017, and with good reason. I’ll let her tell you about it.

“I liked when Lady Bird dove out of the car, obviously. She’s a character with a lot of spirit, and I definitely relate to her from my own time growing up. And I appreciated the way the movie handled depicting a dysfunctional family. Just because you’re dysfunctional doesn’t mean you don’t still love each other a lot, and this family clearly did.”

4. Get Out

Definitely one of the smartest films nominated for an Oscar in 2017. If I have a complaint, it’s that I didn’t find Get Out as scary as some of the other great horror movies of the year (Raw or It Comes at Night to name a couple) but it’s disturbing on another level and it does what I like most in a horror flick or thriller, manipulating the tropes of the genre to explore some deeper aspect of human experience, in the manner of recent classics like The VVitch or It Follows.

3. Dunkirk

Dunkirk, on the other hand, is precisely and perfectly executed real-life horror story where the horror is the entire message. Every aspect of Nolan’s production is fine-tuned to create maximum anxiety, including the odd-sounding but deadly effective story structure. I saw Drew Magary joke over on Deadspin that they forgot to write a screenplay for this movie, but while obviously Dunkirk doesn’t have the ornate dialogue of Call Me by Your Name or the exquisite character development of Lady Bird, I think Dunkirk‘s carefully sequenced cliffhangers are their own sort of great writing.

2. The Shape of Water

Guys, go see The Shape of Water, but please don’t take your kids. Some parents a few seats over from lady snow and I did, and it was deeply, deeply uncomfortable. Fortunately, I quickly forgot they were there, because The Shape of Water is a thoroughly immersive spectacle that never loses its human scale even though probably the most important character isn’t human and, um, has scales. Anyway, The Shape of Water was clearly made with so much care and love, and makes Sally Hawkins having a relationship with a fish man not just believable but totally compelling.

1. Mudbound

I Can’t Believe You’re Doing This Shit Again, Can’t You Just Pick From The Real Nominees Like A Normal Person: It’s my post series and I’ll do what I want.

No One’s Watching The Oscars Tonight To Find Out What You Think: Okay. I know. Fine. The actual predictions then.

Will Win/Should Win: The Shape of Water. This is so far from a sure thing, with all the hardware that Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri has picked up this awards season. I see Best Picture this year as eventually a two-horse race, and you can definitely make the case that Three Billboards should be favored, but in the end I have to trust the same gut that told me Moonlight last year and Spotlight two years ago. I just don’t believe the Academy will choose a film with Three Billboards‘ delirious highs but numerous glaring issues over a rock-solid, attentively crafted and deeply moving story like The Shape of Water.

Upset Special Two-For One: Lady BirdGet Out. A lot of people who should know better are already talking themselves into a Get Out win. That’s likely to end in disappointment, but here’s the case both for both Get Out and Lady Bird: They’ve got directing, acting, and screenplay nominations. They’ve got substantial campaigns behind them, and plenty of popular support. And maybe the changing membership of the Academy makes it less like the Golden Globes and the guild awards. Both films are still pretty big long shots, in my opinion. If Lady Bird in particular wins, it’s probably going to mean I was wrong about a lot of other awards.

But What About: No, sorry, I think Dunkirk‘s fantastic, but it’s not going to happen. No, not even if it wins Best Editing.

make it snow is an alot of beer who’s watched alot of movies. Did you know that the red carpet is red so it won’t show bloodstains when Michael Shannon murders someone? Anyway, enjoy the show!

What’s that? I didn’t do original art for all the movies? I promise it’s coming, in a recap post after the awards.

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WCS

And now Jane Fonda? Oh, man, the Tweet storm from the White House is gonna be something.

Romonobyl

Looks like she’s had more upgrades than Windows Vista.

SonOfSpam

If there’s a bad Windows Vista joke, I haven’t heard it.

SonOfSpam

I’ll bet you a beer that I’ll pay off should we ever meet (not likely, so I’m brave) that it’s the stupid Billboards movie. Not rooting for it, just expecting it.

SonOfSpam

Ok, I owe you a beer.

WCS
Spur

Should have been Nolan.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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Brick Meathook

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Redshirt

This time George Lucas has gone too far with his latest Special Edition!

Redshirt

Once again “Our Hope and Dreams for a Better Tomorrow” gets snubbed from the In Memoriam.

WCS

Thought and prayers.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Better tweet it; makes doing nothing last longer.

Unsurprised

I’m all for free college, but I’m even more for the idea that college is only a necessity for pretty brainless, mindless, useless jobs because so many people already go to college because college is important because all the “good” jobs require degrees because … (this circle spirals forever).

The irony is … Who fucking cares.

Romonobyl

Yep, too true. That’s why trade schools are having attendance problems. Nobody wants to work with their hands anymore, actually creating something useful is soooo 1990!

Fronkenshteen

I love following shit I can’t get on TV through open threads here.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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SonOfSpam

What kind of cable package doesn’t include ABC?

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Some of the new cheaper cable by internet packages lack channels you’d think would be a given.

Fronkenshteen

Roku/Sling. I’d have to pay a monthly fee for CBS, too. But Sling includes RedZone, so I don’t.
I get the MLB radio package every year. March Madness streams for free. So mostly I’m covered. But you guys are a pisser to follow when you’re my eyes and ears.

Romonobyl

Can you add an OTA antenna?

Fronkenshteen

You shot who in the what, now?

Fronkenshteen

I don’t see why not. They look cheap, too.

WCS

This is the first time I’ve ever seen Eddie Vedder look like he actually slept indoors last night.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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Romonobyl

Good call. I always feel like someone should be handing him a free blanket.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Won’t work; he’s been vaccinated.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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Spur
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SonOfSpam

“And I bought this dress with Capital One Venture points!”

WCS

“Another case of LIBERAL HOLLYWOOD ELITES giving MEXICANS our JOBS! SAD!” — Trump twitter in about 30 seconds

SonOfSpam

Nah, he has nothing against cocoa.

SonOfSpam

Good to see Disney finally get an Oscar.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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Speaking of Red Carpet.

Unsurprised

Her ass deserved an Oscar for Night at the Museum 2.

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Spur

I’d get lost in that ass

Fronkenshteen

“…recalculating…”

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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Romonobyl

Take the low road south, mind the pothole near the end.

Romonobyl

Why is there not a category for that? Outside of the AVNs of course.

Unsurprised

Barnum treated people like animals and animals like shit. Churchill gassed blacks and Boers in South Africa and starved millions of Bengalis to death in 1943. Hollywood fucking sucks.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Jackie Treehorn treats objects like women, man.

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What’s great about Churchill is that even by his own time period’s rampant accepted racism he was still considered extremely racist.

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He’s genuinely one of the worst people to have ever lived and it was awesome to see liberals jumping to blast Patron of Dog Killers Mike Huckabee when he favorably compared Trump to Churchill.

SonOfSpam

To be fair, Huckabee is well-versed in awful people in that he’s generated several.

WCS

Walken’s peyote kicked in.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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BrettFavresColonoscopy

Tea Leoni was hot af in that

Unsurprised

She was also a great shot for someone who hated guns. Stupid Will Smith blocking her shot notwithstanding.

SonOfSpam

“Thank you. I killed Natalie Wood.”

/walks off

Fronkenshteen

//Orchestra plays “Don’t Fear The Reaper”

SonOfSpam

I thought the movie was about PT Barnum, not MeT Forearm.

Wakezilla

Seacrest worked the red carpet today and got interviews? #metoo clearly worked.

blaxabbath

Call outs don’t pay the bills.

blaxabbath

Also, he’s still influencial.

WCS

Holy donkey dicks, these songs are bad.

Spur

if you run out of breath in the middle of your song, its time to get healthy.

Romonobyl

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Spur

she gets animal style fries at In-n- Out.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Lady BFC is on a streaming delay, so just saw the military tribute. That’ll make Trump voters ok with trans people.

Unsurprised

That was a good movie.

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For all the supposedly liberalness of Hollywood, they’re about as enthusiastically behind America’s imperial actions as any conservative is.

Wakezilla

Yeah, US Democrats aren’t all that different from the GOP.

blaxabbath

The GOP is off the rails. But, yeah, establishment Dems don’t mind a little conservative bent on economic policy and thanking all our HEROES — like General Flynn. And General John Kelly.

Hey – maybe there is a reason we haven’t won a war in 60 years!!!

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damn it, I need to find that mission accomplished banner with Dubya.

blaxabbath

Think they aren’t taking those tax breaks? I know I am! And I’ve been to Universal Studios!

SonOfSpam

I’d say something about how if we don’t kiss military ass, the conservative snowflakes get triggered, but I’m a uniter not a divider.

blaxabbath

Someone would tweet until his Grand Mac was cold but, i don’t want to create controversy, so I won’t name any names.

WCS

Nawt a hawt taek: all of these songs suck.

WCS

Listening to my cats throw up hairballs is better than any of these turd stains.

Spur
SonOfSpam

Huh. I guess it’s over now.

Brick Meathook

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Romonobyl

Well, she was once married to Jesse James, therefore understandable.

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Redshirt

At work, after a year and a half of painful deprograming, I got a coworker to admit that Donald Trump wasn’t the best candidate the Republican Party could’ve chosen in 2016. Its not much, but at least the Seeds of Reason are starting to take root.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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WCS

Only another 33 million to go!

Romonobyl

If he had half a brain (being generous), he would never utter another sentence that wasn’t written by someone else and for God’s sake delete that Twitter account!

Unsurprised

Still a Republican.

blaxabbath

Who was worse?! The LADY? The Mexican Senator from Florida? The BLACK DOCTOR?! The guy with energy so low he could never golf on a quarter of his days in office?

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After seeing Macro Rubio willingly step into a proverbial pungee pit at that gun-themed town hall, I’m almost wishing we could have seen that dead-eyed walking suit as president.

Redshirt

Agreed. You may disagree with his views, but you gotta respect the guts.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Yeah, that one time.

Spur

Harrison Ford on Howard Stern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsK-4LHz438

SonOfSpam

Quality Harrison Ford joke.

Spur
Spur

has the NBA playoffs or World Cup started yet?

Spur
Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

THIS ACADEMY I CALL THEM PETER KING BECAUSE THEY DON’T BELIEVE THAT BEING BROUGHT UP ON RAPE CHARGES SHOULD PREVENT YOU FROM RECEIVING THEIR MOST PRESTIGIOUS AWARD.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Just one of the many reasons Dear Basketball shouldn’t have won.

Romonobyl

Didn’t see it, never heard if it, have every intention of keeping it that way.

Wakezilla

Here’s hoping someone asks about Colorado.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Tell him they really enjoyed his work on “Straw Dogs”.

Redshirt

Seeing their reactions to Roman Polanski makes it hard for me to believe them at all.

– “We deserve to be heard and be safe! Oh, but Roman shouldn’t face jail time. It was a different time back then.”

blaxabbath

Nothing especially impressive but thanks to yeah right’s am Post, I was inspired to bust out the CInfor tonight’s cornbread side.

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Romonobyl

I love skillet cornbread, but it has to be a bit spicy. The Dame makes a baked sweet cornbread that goes great with chili. Hell I’ll eat all of both of ’em!

Redshirt

RIP Pac-Man (1980-2018)

Unsurprised

WAKKA WAKKA WAKKA WAKKA WAKKA WAKKA WAKKA

Unsurprised

That’s sexy. Working pic, but huge:

Spoiler

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Redshirt

Of course, “Get Out” won. That was obvious.

I still won’t watch it. From what I’ve read, it sounds like “White Guilt: The Movie”. I’m a Moderate Republican. I’m living that movie.

blaxabbath

I didn’t give it much thought. I just thought it was entertaining.

WCS

Quiznatodd Bidness won an Oscar!

Spur

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Redshirt

So Emily Blunt is obviously attractive. And she is going to be playing Mary Poppins.

I’m going be having some really confused feelings when that movie comes out.

Unsurprised

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SonOfSpam

Ok, let’s get Jordan Peele that Oscar now…

SonOfSpam

Excellent.

SonOfSpam

“I also wanted to thank that peach.”

Redshirt

So how smug is the Oscars this year? Has any man taken credit for the #MeToo movement yet?

Romonobyl

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Unsurprised

Kobe Bryant won an Oscar. #MeToo is as dead as Reagan.

WCS

Definitely some fart-sniffin’ goings on.

Col. Duke LaCross

Not too bad.

Spur

so brave.
i wonder how many of these starlets take gigs hosting/opening buildings in UAE? Make a stand then and i’ll defend you with all i got.

Spur

can i get a Lee Daniels Coming to America sequel?

Unsurprised

Black Panther wasn’t enough?

Spur
Unsurprised

The War Nerd has another great comment about why there is such a hard-on for melee weapons in sci-fi, and it basically comes down to the authors being wannabe SCA losers in love with the romanticism of shit like medieval combat and lacking the imagination to think of anything beyond their middle-class existence … IN SPAAAAAAACE.

Spur

Just give me an HBO or Netflix Forever War series.

WCS

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One of these things is not like the others:

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The resolution on this came in just so that you can’t see the titties in this cartoon and therefore it’s not per se improper to post here.

Unsurprised

Harvey’s titties seem pretty clear on my laptop.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Ah yes; the white supremisist’s favorite cartoonist!