More Than Meets The Eye: Tuesday Open Thread

I don’t want to talk about the NFL right now.

Not just because the Bills have now utilized both of their yearly Trip Over The Worst Teams On Your Schedule games- remember, Buffalo gave Urban Meyer one of his two career NFL wins.

And not just because the ostensible class of the league (outside perhaps the Clots) have been so wildly inconsistent that it’s almost impossible to determine whether a given game will be any good.

No, it’s because in the midst of a very dark time for our family, my children have discovered the magic of Transformers.

I’ve made a couple of unplanned trips back to my parents over the last couple months as a health situation developed. The kids have come with on a few, and the last time my young son disappeared into the basement for quite a while.

I didn’t think anything of it until 2:30 in the morning, when I was struck in the head by a collection of plastic, metal and nostalgia. Turns out while spelunking among my niece and nephew’s toys in the basement, the boy had found my Jetfire (a.k.a Skyfire, a.k.a. Robotech fighter) and snuck him up to our shared bedroom so he could smuggle him home. When he awoke in the wee hours and got bored, he decided to start flying Jetfire around. In the midst of a high-G manuever to avoid Imperial fighters (we are also big Star Wars fans), he lost control and I got a face full of Autobot.

After a brief talk about the importance of airmanship and flight safety, he asked whether this was a Rebel or Imperial plane. I explained that this was a Transformer, which is a totally different universe. I then demonstrated the “transform” aspect, because I am a complete fucking moron who apparently didn’t want to get any more sleep that night. It really is amazing; as noted by noted by the poet-philosophers Harvey Danger, fingertips have memories, and mine still remembered how to fold and shape and bend this toy almost 40 years later. The next morning, he demonstrated his new discovery to his little sister, and that was the clincher for both.

Since then, we have been overrun by Autobots, Decepticons, Terrans (which are somehow also Autobots?), homemade Quintessons, and others.

We have watched the first season of the original series (apparently now referred to as Generation 1). It still holds up, in that despite low-quality animation, stilted dialogue and simplistic plots, it’s still incredibly compelling. Huge props to the voice actors, who shoulder an outsized burden of expressing the emotion and characterization.

No, we will not be showing them Transformers: The Movie. The boy is the same age I was when that came out, and I still remember sitting in a theater full of my fellow kindergartners, all of us bawling. No thanks.

Anyway, I have become re-steeped in Transformers lore. Here are my Top 5 Transformers

5. Jazz

Voiced by Scatman Crothers (The Shining, among others). Jazz is always cool. Always rolls with it. Effortlessly hip. Also, a bitchin’ Porsche.

4. Ratchet

Voiced by Don Messick (Doctor Benton Quest, Boo Boo, Astro Jetson)

He’s funny. He’s a doctor. He’s got self-esteem issues. If you took away Hawkeye Pierce’s genitals and gave him an iron skin, he’d be Ratchet.

3. Wreck Gar

Voiced by Eric Idle (Monty Python). He was basically my introduction to both absurdism and Weird Al. I apparently ran around for several days as a child, yelling “Destroy Unicron! Kill the Grand Poobah! Eliminates even the toughest stains!”

2. Soundwave

Voiced by Frank Welker (Megatron, Fred from Scooby Doo, about a thousand other characters). Trying to explain Soundwave required explaining cassettes, which required explaining the world before streaming, which required me to take a nap before I shrivelled away to ancient dust. Soundwave is basically the Smart Decepticon.

  1. Optimus Prime

Voiced by Peter Cullen (Canadian). Leader. Father. Friend. Christ Figure.

Honorable Mentions: WheelJack (mad scientist), Silverbolt (acrophobic airplane), Starscream (he’s a grasping little bitch, but amazing name and plane form), Omega Supreme (why is there a tank on a railroad track surrounding a ballistic missile? Because Omega Supreme, motherfucker), Ironhide (making the Chevy Astrovan look badass)

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blaxabbath

Brian Kelly: “Don’t you have an entire law school on staff that couls have read this contract for you before signing?”

WCS

News only I care about department…

Kent State won their fourth game of the season, to move to 4-6 (3-3). That is four more wins over FBS schools in 2025 than the Golden Flashes have total combined from 2022-24. They went 1-11 in 2023 and 0-12 in ’24. They’re actually 3-3 under the interim since they shitcanned their head coach in early October.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/recap/_/gameId/401762856

Appears the Sharks are actually moving forward. They’re currently in a playoff spot. Don’t know if that will hold, but the Ice Stillers are playing well, too. 2016 rematch?
I welcome the hate now!
https://www.espn.com/nhl/recap/_/gameId/401802612

2024 National Champion Florida may be one of the more forgotten and overlooked national champs in a while. Did you remember they won in March? The basketball side of rivalries, especially out of conference, also get overlooked.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/recap/_/gameId/401826707

There’s three interesting and overlooked spr0ts stories from Tuesday, November, 11, 2025, Veterans Day. Check them out. Or don’t. I can’t stop you from one or the other.

Unsurprised

My favorite Transformer was Jertfire, the Robotech Macross toy that was re-done to be one of the airplane team release. It was bigger and metal with a couple plastic add-ons. In the cartoon he was the vehicle for the Autobots.

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Jetfire_%28G1%29/toys

The shoulder assembly where the jet mode folds in half for robot mode is one of the more commonly broken parts in the early Transformers toy line.

Can confirm.

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Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

My brother had that. And he didn’t even like Robotech. IT’S NOT FAIR!

Brick Meathook

Hey it’s Veteran’s Day!

Kiss my ass! God Bless America

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Brick Meathook

I’d like to thank me for my service.

Gatoraids

thank you for your secret service, my grandpas brother was a submarine captain never talked to him much but glad to see them catch up

Brick Meathook

My first boss was a submarine skipper. I haven’t had a boss since then.

SonOfSpam

The twink in the alley would also like to thank you for your service.

Whereas I would like to thank you for giving such a camera-friendly blowie. You really know your blocking. And cocking.

Brick Meathook

????

SonOfSpam

I’m sorry, I should have saved that for tomorrow.

ArmedandHammered

Why were you going to insult him tomorrow?

ArmedandHammered

Is there a quota?

Unsurprised

It would be neat if he sassed back at the first “transform” command by saying something like “No human may dare command Megatron!”

WCS

Not sure how much affiliation or relation Lowratio has to Central Connecticut State, I appreciate them beating BAWSTAHN CAWLEDGE tonight.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I used to listen to the college radio station out of CCSU when I was in high school. WFCS – which the deejays at the time heavily implied stood for “fucking cool station”.

Doktor Zymm

I dated a guy in high school who had the entire Transformers movie memorized

Jimbo

Seems like he was quite a catch.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I guarantee a guy with a skill such as that was juggling four, if not five young women at once.

WCS

Weirdly enough though, they all live in other states or Canada.

Gatoraids

who isnt rounding all the bases with this in the background

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAJcJsmH14A

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

This song is *also* on that 800 80’s song compilation and it was a revelation for me to realize that it hadn’t been written as a joke for Boogie Nights.

SonOfSpam

Juggling their detached skulls perhaps.

Gatoraids

Though Veterans Day most makes my think of my grandfather who was week plus Dday as Browning rifle accompaniment. Do think of songs like this as we drove around the country roads…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8OlDPqYBLw

Brick Meathook

In my day this was a “transformer”

You transformed him by breaking every bone in his body.

Murica! Snake Fucking River!

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WCS

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Jimbo
Brick Meathook

They started making the Evel Knievel toy again. There’s a guy who makes elaborate jump videos, and he uses an electric drill to power the motorcycle’s launcher. I’ve posted a couple of them here but nobody ever gave a single “like” (that’s my Nielsen Rating metric) to any of them so I stopped.

ArmedandHammered

I had one of those, was my favorite toy.

WCS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqIHlDVqUTw

If we’re going ’80s, I’ll set the mood.

I guarantee you someone here, or a sibling, was created during this song at some point. We were in the other room, playing with Transformers (or GoBots).

Jimbo

Bagger at the grocery store was singing this last night. It was stuck in my head all day.

https://youtu.be/v0KpfrJE4zw?si=RwYnOmaI8xyt0hsB

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

“Banger at the grocery store? I don’t know, I’d hate for her to lose her job as a cashier there.” – tWBS

Jimbo

The last time I had Hennessy I was a young man, it did nawt end well.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I used it regularly for cocktails like sidecars these days.

Gatoraids

bout to get to Last Christmas time but have been better appreciating George Michael much more lately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhmj6Gm-6Do&list=RDhhmj6Gm-6Do&index=1

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

New York Giants fans right now (artist’s conception with an EXTREMELY liberal depiction of the general attractiveness of said fans):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diYAc7gB-0A

Gatoraids

very influential video indeed as an early teen.

got over with Smokey and Aretha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZflvN5mkrxQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDxzQJaA228

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

That Aretha Franklin duet is on the 800 80’s songs compilation I’ve spoken so highly of here (enough so that I made copies for Balls and BFC) and it cracks me up; George was a perfectly adequate singer but pairing him with Aretha is just unfair.

Gatoraids

yes just clipped her Respect from the Blues Brothers for the benefit my millennial Cuban coworkers last week

SonOfSpam

I was a freshman in high school, and this song was everywhere.

I was torn between “Damn this song is phenomenal” and “Is it gay to like this song?”

Jimbo

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Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I never really liked the way the Starscream type transformed. Their tiny little face pissed me off. Also the wings in back were very cumbersome and would fall off too easily.

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jjfozz

Micronauts toys were complete pieces of shit. Don’t know how many I broke. 12 year old me wasn’t the calm, collected, and peaceful man you see here before you today.

jjfozz

Said goodbye tonight to a man who stomped on the terra, but in a quiet, happy way. Although from what i heard, he could lay down the law.

He could also smash down a vodka tonic like no one’s business.

WCS

I, too, went to a memorial service.

blaxabbath

“They are robots in disguise, I’m told.”

WCS

I’ve heard they’re “more than meets the eye.”

jjfozz

I was gifted the original robot that transformed into a gun, those were the days. Imagine trying to sell that in today’s world. Millenials would be fainting and peeing their pants.

jjfozz

for reference

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WCS

I absolutely remember this.

WCS

I had GoBots, and didn’t know the difference till I was like, 20.

NotShogunButShogun

Megatron. They completely neutered it going forward.

Gumbygirl

Something something something “to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons”

Gatoraids

forgetting Orson Welles last role and his goal to eat all the peas in the universe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DPW44-I3n4

WCS
Sharkbait

Always a classic

WCS

Mmmmuuuaaahhhhhhh!

Sharkbait

Uhh Orson, California can’t have champagne. It’s sparkling wi–

/is bludgeoned into unconsciousness.

Horatio Cornblower

The only thing more fermented than that champagne is Orson.

WCS

Nnnaahhh…thefrenchandtheirexcellence…orisitcalifornia?

WCS

My favorite comment on the YooToob page is, “He seems genuinely surprised the bottle is there every time.”

Sharkbait
BrettFavresColonoscopy

Is jazz more a Utah type or a New Orleans type?

Jimbo

He’s a Yankee.

Senor Weaselo

And should have hit me up to go watch Demon Slayer.

WCS
Mr. Ayo

You want to see a real Transformer?

RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!

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BallsofLacrosseAndMapleSyrup

That railing transforms into a cup holder?
Cool

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BeefReeferLives

And not just because the ostensible class of the league (outside perhaps the Clots) have been so wildly inconsistent that it’s almost impossible to determine whether a given game will be any good

Hey! The Steelers are wildly inconsistent!! Does that mean they’re…

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Awwwww…

Redshirt

How did you get a video of my high school crush responding to me asking her out on a date?

BeefReeferLives

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Redshirt

My one regret of the 4th and 5th Transformers movies was it discouraged me from watching “Bumblebee” and “Transformers One”. Same reason why I skipped “X-Men: First Class” and almost passed on “Rocky Balboa”.

Unsurprised

Bumblebee is the closest to the first Bay Transformers, including Bumblebee just destroying Hailee Steinfeld’s house bumbling around. It’s not bad. It’s not good, but it’s not bad. It also has John Cena telling other government guys “They literally call themselves DECEPTICONS!”

Transformers (2007) is the best modern military porn movie. I am biased now so I can’t say anything good about Black Hawk Down.

I don’t watch shit CGI, prequels, or the Hemsworths, so I would suggest you continue not seeing Transformers One.

X-Men First Class is not bad. The fist two Matthew Vaughn X-Men movies (First Class and Days of Future Past) are almost as good as the Singer ones (With 100% less behind-the-scenes boy rape) but they are also on a whole other scale because Fox was willing to put money into those. DoFP manages to keep the tension up in the third act climax between the.future scenes and 1960s scenes. First Class has Magneto hunting and murdering Nazis is fun and exciting ways. You can look those up on YouTube. Azazel (Evil Nightcrawler) is also badass, but in no way on the level of Nightcrawler in the opening of X2.

Horatio Cornblower

Can’t wait for all the tough-guy posts about why this is a bitch move.

https://bsky.app/profile/diannarussini.bsky.social/post/3m5fga2xtp22p

(it is definitely not a bitch move, and the NFL would undoubtedly benefit if more players did this)

BeefReeferLives

Always thought introducing the Dinobots was a real “jump the shark” moment in the franchise.

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