Back Home in Indiana: Tuesday Open Thread

So the Bears are moving to Indiana? No, not really.

But maybe!

But not really.

 

Having spent my later formative years in the Chicago area, I still feel invested in the happenings of the sports teams if that area; more specifically, in the delicious suffering that they regularly inflict on their fans. The world is just better when the Cubs, Bears and Blackhawks suck badly (sorry Sox fan, even having a Pope doesn’t get you into the conversation).

I would enjoy a resurgence of the Bulls though. Fuck Jerry Reinsdorf with Benny the Bull’s uphostlered dong.

ANYWAY: the Bears are riding their optimistic preseason narrative to its logical extreme by threatening to move to an Undisclosed Location- specifically via the vote of the Bears’ board of directors to “pursue” a stadium option just across the border in Hammond, Indiana.

For those keeping score at home, this is the third (3rd) stadium site that the Bears have pursued in their latest round of the Grand Civic Grift. In addition to variations on a new stadium at or near their current home at Soldier Field, the Bears actually bought a stadium site (the former Arlington International Racecourse) in the relatively tony northwest suburb of Arlington Heights for nearly $200 million three years ago. They demolished the racecourse and now it’s just.. there.

It is the Arlington Heights property that makes me think the Hammond move is a bluff. While you could probably buy the entirety of Hammond for about $200 million, the likelihood of Arlington Heights giving the Bears the advantageous zoning and other perks they would need to sell it at a profit seems vanishingly small: the Other Woman never likes getting Other Womaned herself.*

*Non-gendered

Although Hammond is a nominal half hour south of Soldier Field, it is a solid 90 minutes from the Arlington Heights site. The great threat of the Arlington Heights site (versus Chicago proper) is its proximity the Land of Milk and Honey that is the North Shore. For the non-Chicagolanders, the North Shore is where all those ridiculously large homes in John Hughes movies (Ferris Bueller, Home Alone, etc.) are located, as well as Bears headquarters. In other words, roughly 85% of likely PSL buyers would live within half an hour of an Arlington Heights stadium.

Hammond, on the other hand, is roughly two hours (with foreseeable traffic) from this concentration of wealth. Nor is there any obvious opportunity for the sort of MegaMall/Entertainmoplex that is part and parcel of the modern “This Will Totally Boost The Regional Economy, We Swear This Time” stadium scam. I’m not saying the Bears would be stupid to follow through on this, but they already paid $200 million when the City of Chicago called their bluff on Arlington Heights. It would take a McCaskey Failson level of dumbassedness to…

Oh.

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BugEyedBoo

Went to a concert at Hammond IN. Weather was kind of gray that day so might not be the town’s fault. But the impression I got from there was ‘grim’.

Doktor Zymm

I’m glad I voted for Steyer, we were so close to having 2 Dem noms for gov

Gumbygirl

I panicked and voted for Becerra. I wish I hadn’t now.

Doktor Zymm

No worries, I think a lot of people did

SonOfSpam

Eh, you made the right call.

Kind of over the whole “billionaire who’s never been in politics but somehow knows what’s best” thing. (not just the obvious rapist pedo, also Polis in CO just pardoned that vote-stealing harpy)

Gimme boring competence.

Gumbygirl

Yeah, I just don’t like how cozy he is with the corporate types. They don’t need any help

Doktor Zymm

I slightly prefer it to just being owned by a billionaire or two, which is basically every politician running in a statewide or national race. Steyer was the most engaged with progressive groups by far

SonOfSpam

Yeah, to be clear, I think his heart is probably in the right place most of the time (except with some of those ads, which were shitty and untruthful). I think he’s probably ok on policy. But there’s sausage to be made, and Steyer reminds me of Bernie with his “I’ll get us universal healthcare and free college and tax all billionaires and a puppy (which I’d support) without having any realistic way to do it.

That’s one of many areas where Biden doesn’t get enough credit. He got a really good bill passed (Inflation Reduction Act) with 50 senators INCLUDING Manchin and Steyer. He should have (again, magically) locked up Trump for life (impossible with SCOTUS). But he knew how to twist arms and get shit done. And I trust Becerra with that much more than a flighty billionaire who’s never even been on a city council.

Gumbygirl

I just wish Steyer had been able to get ahead of Hilton. That way, he would have forced Becerra a little more to the left in order to win in November. Now Becerra has no real incentive to entertain more progressive ideas. All he has to do is not be a Nazi!

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I can’t fucking believe that Polis did that. Like the one person who was genuinely facing consequences for trying to overthrow the government and she gets to walk, too. Probably will make a tidy income signing red hats and shit on the CPAC/TP-USA grift circuit.

Bogdanski

Don’t regret your vote at all

2Pack

What is wrong with Soldier Field? I’ve not followed that part of the conversation. I was there a few years ago and it looked fine to me. Not enough luxury boxes for an old venue?

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Billionaire answer: it’s one of the smallest in the league, it’s owned by the city, and then turf sucks.

Fan answer: it’s pretty great. Parking and transit answer could both be better. And the city doesn’t do a great job with the grass. But the location is fucking perfect.

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Doktor Zymm

Smallest actually isn’t bad for billionaires anymore, the trend is toward fewer, more expensive seats now

Horatio Cornblower

Apparently there’s a new social media challenge where kids take massive amounts of Benadryl, to induce hallucinations, and several of them have died.

I’m sorry, but that’s on you as a parent. You raised one stupid fucking kid, and the gene pool is likely better off.

SonOfSpam

Right up there with raw milk.

You guys who think it’s a good idea to drink it? Please. Drink it.

blaxabbath

I love my raw milk.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

COVID did NOT thin enough of the herd

Doktor Zymm

Too good for Robitussin?

Gumbygirl

Stupid kids. Take real drugs, like we did/do.

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Bogdanski

Goddammit social media was a mistake. This is awful and yet still kind of funny in a way that I wouldn’t have thought of before social media

SonOfSpam

Exactly to all this. It’s awful, but what’s even worse is I laughed.

Gumbygirl

I lost a spouse to cancer and I laughed. Don’t worry about it, there are waaaay worse people than us!

SonOfSpam

Terrifying.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Like that guy’s dad who is constantly beating him with a set of jumper cables.

https://www.reddit.com/user/rogersimon10/

Sharkbait

Did the Canadian men’s curling team poke that puck into the empty net?

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

The Dr. Mrs. spent some time in my weight room this evening and I had to explain to her that rusty weights are better because all that oxidation makes them heavier and thus you get a better workout.

She’s also complaining that the carpet is too dirty and I pointed her to RFK’s guidelines about helpful macrobiotics.

2Pack

They invade our spaces to complain about it.
Chicks.
Typical.

Doktor Zymm

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Bogdanski

I don’t remember this from the show but I just now laughed loud and long enough to be stared at suspiciously by my roommates. The kids don’t understand redox chemistry and Dr Mrs is sick of dad jokes of any level so I’m sittin here alone with my barely controlled giggling. I can’t explain why I find this so funny but it has really made my night, thank you

WCS

Start warming the oven, I’ll mix the bananacake batter.

Doktor Zymm

On a related note, I want to hit up a couple stadiums I haven’t been to this year. Where is important to go see a game soon before the NFL goes full FIFA?

SonOfSpam

If you go to Lambeau, you can see grown men ride bikes, and the people own the team, and everyone loves everyone*!

*minorities excepted

NotShogunButShogun

I live here, I ride a bike, and I hate everyone equally.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

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SonOfSpam

“I’m ever so pissed!” still cracks me up.

Bogdanski

I have a neighbor named Vicki and she is very short and it takes so much effort to not call her Lil Vicki

Bogdanski

I’ve been there and all people from Green Bay, Ashwaubenon, De Pere, and the whole Fox Valley deserve equal hate. Except maybe for Neenah, they make all the nation’s sewer covers. And NotShogunButShogun. And probably a few other folks but then the joke is ruined. Thanks a lot Green Bay

Doktor Zymm

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Bogdanski

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Not all but a whole lote

SonOfSpam

See, you’re one of the “good ones”

BrettFavresColonoscopy

I have shockingly not been to all that many NFL stadia. But I kind of want to go to Arrowhead before they go to Kansas.

Horatio Cornblower

I’ve been to Foxboro and that’s pretty much cured me of any desire to see another one.

Football is a game best watched at home, or in a bar, or in someone else’s house.

Doktor Zymm

I have nawt heard good things about Foxboro tho

yeah right

The Superdome.

Doktor Zymm

The Bears are gonna end up somewhere stupid.

Anywhere not easily accessible from both downtown and ORD is stupid and both Arlington Heights and Indiana qualify. We already have an idiotic temple of narcissism in a town called Arlington though, so you just know that’s gonna be it. It’ll be smaller capacity than Soldier and all luxury boxes somehow and the Bears will go back to sucking and it won’t even be a full house when they play the Packers and then it’ll end up as low income housing after the Bears move to San Antonio

SonOfSpam

San Antonio Osos has a nice ring to it!

Sharkbait

Jerry would never allow a second team in Texas

SonOfSpam

True, that’s why there’s only been one since the Oilers left.

Horatio Cornblower

He ain’t gonna live forever.

I hope.

Fervently.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I’m surprised that there isn’t a Texas team called the Steer but I suppose that would dredge up some unpleasant memories of Josh Brent’s inability to.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

I’m still not ready to talk about it

herodotus450

In light of recent events, I am officially updating my list of Captains who’ve played for Detroit to place Dylan Larkin below Daniel Alfreddssoonn, Red Wings Legend.

SonOfSpam

And Twitter is full of hot takes like “Bears are leaving Illinois because of the Pritzker, the liberal loon!” and it’s like, I don’t think most Illinoisans wanna pay for McCaskey’s new joint, so good for Pritzker (if this is in any way his doing, which, who cares).

scotchnaut

I have a super hot take regarding my NY Giants that play in New Jersey!

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King Hippo

To close the deal, the State of Indiana should change its name to DITKA

Mr. Ayo

Hoo boy. Carolina takes a 2-0 lead early. They’ve already proven several times this series that’s a very dangerous lead. Let’s see what happens!

blaxabbath

George McCaskey is a proud ASU Sun Devil 4 Life. 

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BrettFavresColonoscopy

Is it rude to downvote this?

WCS

Vichy Whalers already up, 1-0.

WCS

Sourry, 2-0 now.

scotchnaut

Oldest Skull Fracture Boy is in the deepest of doghouses. Work is insane. Sirius introduced me to this tune. Today has been an insane mess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1J04ugcdi8&list=RDK1J04ugcdi8&start_radio=1

WCS

Oldest Skull Fracture Boy is in the deepest of doghouses

Go on…

ballsofsteelandfury

I do love that they spent 200 million on a site they are now threatening to leave.

Just so stupid.

Don T

“We view Indiana as a front runner. In fact, the we bought the Chicago site to develop a vegan food truck park”

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