History Time!: Tuesday Open Thread

Before I became the spiritual head of a world-spanning multi-level-marketing-scheme-cum-religion, I was a history major. Specifically, late-Medieval to early-Modern Europe, with an emphasis on the development of dedicated navies as a driving force behind the increased centralization of state power.

Why yes, I was rolling twelve hoes deep 24/7. Bitches love it when you talk about Ship Money and the role it played in the execution of Charles I.

With naval warship design back in the news (finally!), it’s Mayhem’s time to shine.

WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS?

Because Trump needed to distract America from the Epstein files, but hasn’t managed to provoke any Venezuelans into firing a rifle at our pirate fleet. Having already played the New Jet Fighter card, the Demolish the White House card, and the Rename A Large Body of Water card. So it was either Giant Ship Boondoggle or Melania has to have another kid. Trump, unsurprisingly, went with the one that gave him an erection.

SO HE WANTS TO BUILD A BUNCH OF GIGANTIC FLOATING TARGETS TO SALVE HIS EGO AND DISTRACT THE GULLIBLE?

Don’t forget the graft potential- at $15-$20 billion each (before cost overruns and necessary shipbuilding infrastructure costs), this has the potential to dwarf his crypto-bribery and corporate extortion schemes.

Seriously, the “specs” put out on this are laughable, even to a barely-educated amateur like me. We can’t even build frigates FROM EXISTING DESIGNS. Dumbfuck wants big guns, so they stuck a railgun on there…that we stopped developing in 2021 because 16 years of effort had yielded fuckall usable results. And lasers! And anti-drone somethings! And a 5-inch gun for all those Japanese pill-box emplacements we’ll need to shell in support of the landings at Iwo Jima!

SURELY THIS HAS NO HISTORICAL PRECEDENT, RIGHT?

Let me introduce you to the Vasa.

398 years ago, she was laid down to be the most impressive warship afloat. She was built with two gundecks, because King Gustavus Adolphus of Sweden ordered too many cannons to fit on one.

397 years ago, she was launched.

396 years ago, she set off on her maiden voyage from.

396 years ago and roughly 25 minutes later, she sank while most of Stockholm watched, the victim of…uh…a wind gust that tipped her over.

Fairly good animation here:

Pretty much everyone directly involved in the Vasa’s construction and fitting out knew it was massively top-heavy and unstable (except possibly the ship’s master builder, who had conveniently died a year before). The story is that a test involving thirty sailors running from one side to the other of the ship was enough to make it nearly capsize at its moorings. But everyone was too afraid to tell the king that his massive floating phallus-proxy was a dud.

In fairness, even with the lace and ridiculous facial hair, Gustavus Adolphus was probably the scariest man in Europe during the early 17th Century, and certainly the scariest Swede of his time.

Der GOATenshmerbe

Like Napoleon, Gustavus Adolphus was a truly brilliant military mind who revolutionized grand strategy and logistics, and then used those to kick seven shades of shit out of his neighbors.

Also like Napoleon, he was a true landlubber general with no real understanding of floaty-floaty things. He wanted big, he wanted heavily armed, and he wanted it in the water yesterday. He got all three wishes, although he probably pictured “in the water” a bit differently than it turned out. What is Swedish for “Monkey’s Paw”?

If you are in Stockholm and need a walk to let your lutfisk settle, you can visit the Vasa Museum. Something like 98% of the hull was recovered beginning in the 1960s and is now housed at the museum.

WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH TRUMP’S DINGDONG?

It’s perhaps the neatest self-contained historical lesson about what happens when an egotistical maniac gets too obsessed with his cannon.

NFL NEWS:

The playoffs are nearly set. There are two playoff spots still open in each conference and the favorites to claim three of them are heavy favorites. The final two weeks are going to focus mostly on 1. playoff seeding, 2. which monkey-fucking-a-doorknob is most vigorous in the NFC South, and 3. which lame-duck coach can muster a final suicide charge to play spoiler. On the upside, CHRISTMAS DAY FOOTBALL! Who’s hyped for an excuse to ignore their family?

-The Pro Bowl rosters were announced. Your favorite player was cheated out of his rightful spot by the fans/media/other players, and you should riot. Or your favorite player got in, thereby confirming your own personal worth. Yay.

The Pro Bowl’s sole continuing value is its use in player contract incentives. If the list of players provokes any emotional reaction in you, I need you to take a big, deep breath, look at your life and find something- anything- more worthwhile to expend your energy on.

Like that shit PI call in the [insert your team here] game last week.

-JJ McCarthy is out again, this time with a broken bone in his hand. Listen, I fully expected him to fail miserably because he was a system quarterback with poor fundamentals. I did NOT expect him to fail miserably because he is made of spun sugar and wishful thinking.

Contrast this to Jayden Daniels, who I hoped would be drafted by the Patriots lest he “die on the sands of the CommanderBowl, like RGIII before him“. That shit went down in an entirely predictable manner.

-The Chiefs are planning to abandon Missouri for the greener fields of…Kansas? In 2031? I look forward to the new stadium being finished in time for [choose your own joke]

a. one of Andy Reid’s grandchildren to get a DUI

b. Harrison Butker’s second term in the House representing Buttfuck, Georgia

c. the first concert date for Taylor Swift’s triumphant post-divorce album “His Cock Is Actually Tiny, I Was Just Being Kind”

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Doktor Zymm

Brilliant post! I’m pretty sure I’ve been to the Vasa museum, though it would have been back in 2004 or so. I’m guessing all my stonks having to do with defense spending will be going up and then the project will be promptly canceled when he dies/leaves office so I guess that’s cool at least. Kinda like Star Wars aka SDI except quicker.

Wasn’t around last night as dude in Chicago got me started watching Ted Lasso. Digging it so far

Horatio Cornblower

I also recently finished ‘Jay Kelly’ the George Clooney-Adam Sandler film on Netflix that’s getting all kinds of praise.

Took me about 4 days to get through it, and not consecutive days either, because it’s such a bunch of cringey, self indulgent bullshit I couldn’t do more than 20 minutes or so at a stretch.

But Clooney is very handsome, so there’s that.

Horatio Cornblower

Got here late, (Pluribus season finale; if not already watching that show, fix that), but great write-up, Rev.

They will never lay so much as a keel of a Trump class warship. But billions of dollars will disappear while they “try”

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Everyone told us to go to th Vasa museum when we were there and we went and were like….okay, it’s a big boat. Neat.

Loved this writing about it, though.

Bogdanski

Bounced from LDB challenge today. Bumper music on a podcast. It was Bob Dylan so not entirely bad

litre_cola

CHRISTMAS DAY FOOTBALL! Who’s hyped for an excuse to ignore their family?

I will take the smallest margin like I am in 3rd place game for 50 bucks.

/I am

King Hippo

Josh Johnson starting one game, Max Brosmer another!

And yet…#MeToo

BC Dick

It’s all on streaming bullshit though eh? Maybe it’s on Canadian cable but if not, they can stuff it with cranberries

Gumbygirl

I am absolutely not signing up for Netflix. I think the third game is on something I already have, so I’ll watch that.

Horatio Cornblower

We’re at my mother’s and she has neither Netflix nor wifi.

I could get her both, but I am not willing to say what access to wifi would do to her already right-wing tendencies.

King Hippo

For some reason, my eyes were drawn to the teevee box, they showed a crowd shot of maybe an 8-year old Bobcats fan.

Who, naturally, did the little hand motions and mouthed “6-7”

Mr. Ayo

GO CATS GO!!!!

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Release the, uh…basketball guys!

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SonOfSpam

Wanna hear your review. Or read it, more accurately.

jjfozz

chinese food
xmas cookies bakin’
slugging bourbon
watching home alone
yelling at my kids
my wife keeping my dog from destroying the mantle in front of the tv (pigeon scene in Home Alone 2)

Also, while we’re talking about it, the pigeon woman in Home Alone 2 must have reeked worse than rotting entrails under a chicken coop in Florida after a strong rain. Holy shit. A walking germ farm.

jjfozz

Also, she has an Irish accent. And you know about those people.

Horatio Cornblower

Filthy bog-trotters, every one of us.

BC Dick

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Horatio Cornblower

The Mom in that movie is the same actress Paul Newman is banging in ‘Slapshot’

jjfozz

This just in, a cotton ball fell on Lamar’s toe: OUT FOR THE REST OF 2026!

Redshirt

I read that “cannon ball”, but knowing the Ravens’ luck with Lamar’s health that wouldn’t surprise me.

NotShogunButShogun

McCartneys Xmas song can die in a fire

jjfozz

Yes, but Lennon’s song is quite worse. Also, fuck that piece of shit.

BC Dick

Fuck him, indeed. And Tool.

Gumbygirl

No Tool. Never Tool.

NotShogunButShogun

For bebe jebus sake (and my cleaning supplies), let us leave hawt taeks aside.
*even when they’re pretty right*

Mr. Ayo

*updates list*

Gumbygirl

Oh come on, it’s festive as fuck! Nothing more traditional than fighting with the fam for the holidays!

King Hippo

But if you could fuck John Lennon with a tool, which would it be?

NotShogunButShogun

Sawz-all. With yoko there. Recording her shrieking

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King Hippo

that’s TIGHT bruh

BC Dick

Extendable tree branch lopper. I want to feel the snipping

King Hippo

I learned sommet this evening. Western Kenfucky has a VERY FAT band.

SonOfSpam

Hilltoppers my ass.

NotShogunButShogun

More of plateaus or crevasses

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BallsofLacrosseAndMapleSyrup

The US’S Trump will last somewhere between the Vasa and last tour of the SS Minnow

ballsofsteelandfury

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King Hippo

I think the Chefs should thereforth be the Kansas Bleeding.

NotShogunButShogun

Wayward sons?

King Hippo

carry on, then!

BeefReeferLives

Great stuff, Right Rev.

Reminds me of this:

“The Starship Titanic was a monstrously pretty sight as it lay
beached like a silver Arcturan Megavoidwhale amongst the laserlit
tracery of its construction gantries, a brilliant cloud of
pins and needles of light against the deep interstellar
blackness; but when launched, it did not even manage to complete
its very first radio message – an SOS – before undergoing a
sudden and gratuitous total existence failure.”

and…

“But whilst these spaceships, and other great ones which come to
mind, such as the Galactic Fleet Battleships – the GSS Daring,
the GSS Audacy and the GSS Suicidal Insanity – are all spoken of
with awe, pride, enthusiasm, affection, admiration, regret,
jealousy, resentment, in fact most of the better known emotions,
the one which regularly commands the most actual astonishment was
Krikkit One, the first spaceship ever built by the people of
Krikkit.”

SonOfSpam

This comment is more virginal than Trump’s last 30 conquests.

ballsofsteelandfury

To be fair, top heavy and unstable is how I like my women.

NotShogunButShogun

Mentally or…?

ballsofsteelandfury

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Don T

🤣🤣🤣