Wumbo Wednesday With Weaselo: 17th Century Avant-Garde

(Not to be confused, of course, with 21st Century Schizoid Man.)

This is Charles Ives’s “Putnam’s Camp, Redding, Connecticut” from his suite Three Places in New England. It’s one of his most well-known works that are not “The Unanswered Question” because it gives the sounds of two marching bands, playing two different pieces of music, in two different keys, in two different meters, on opposing street corners, coming together in cacophony. Or as the “cultured Classical scholars” call it, polytonality.

Like, that’s one of the three big things Ives is known for. Polytonality, “The Unanswered Question,” and that his Real Job was working for New York Life.

Interestingly enough though, he might not have claim to the first one, as I learned this semester.

This is Heinrich Biber’s Battalia. Three Places was written around 1911-14, revised in 1929, and premiered in 1931. This was written in 1673.

Absolute chaos, almost 250 years before Ives. Biber was weird, and notably not Justin. He wrote a series of sonatas for violin about Jesus and common Rosary practices, commonly known as the Rosary Sonatas or the Mystery Sonatas. Most of them have weird tunings, including one where you cross the middle two strings over each other for even weirder tuning. And that’s the Resurrection one.

I have not played any of them. A friend played one of them for her junior or senior recital at my undergrad. It was not this one. It would be absolute murder for modern instruments with modern, higher-tension, metal-wound strings. You need gut strings to play this one.

Okay, nerdery over, what’s on tonight? Playoffs, featuring 1-seeds!

On the basketball side, Game 5 of Cavs-Pistons, tied 2-2 (8:00, ESPN). Winner gets the Knicks (go Cavs, I think)

In the hockey, Game 5 of Wild-Avs, with the Avalanche up 3-1 with a potential closeout at home (8:00, TNT).

All right, discussion questions for the night, in addition to the standard dicking around. Weirdest thing you’ve listened to in a respective genre. Who’s gonna take Sun Ra? And speaking of jazz, that’s a lead-in to next week’s column, but I’ll do that when I’m not in need of getting dressed for my gig right about now!

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WCS

The Wild succumbing to the 3-0 Lead Before Halfway to be eliminated is the single biggest achievement the franchise has ever done in 26 seasons of existence.

The Houston 500s of the NHL.

(repost from the previous since the site wasn’t working for me)

yeah right

Yeah days after buying the replacement car I’ve got a check battery light.

Not perfect.

The dealership was really cool because they knew that this could lead to a really scorched Earth kind of review and they’re fixing it at no cost

Motherfucker, I don’t want to see an engine light on a car I bought 10 days ago have an engine light EVER.

Signs are positive.

Fuck you Universe!

BC Dick

What’s the car? Are you a Morris Minor type or something more sensible?

SonOfSpam

It’s a Yugo, but one of the better ones. Model cJk.

BC Dick

Come on, it can’t be that bad. Ontario, right? So 4 wheel drive is a must. Don’t think electric. Or minivan. I feel like a Hyundai Santa Fe is the ticket.
It’s a well regarded vehicle but you don’t want to tell your friends.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=07vdtBMG4Kg&ra=m

BC Dick

Let’s just pretend they’re both same person who bought the new means of conveyance. Then it would make sense.

rockingdog

Rocking thought;

Chat, look at who’s president right now. We are allowed to complain about prices and blame it on him. Not only is it fine, it is our patriotic duty

need to internalize this and you need to tell everyone you know this. shampoo more expensive? republicans. burgers more expensive? republicans. beer more expensive? republicans.

rockingdog

Found a funny:

the *real* war of ideas is happening in the comments section of the dominos pizza tracker app and all of us here on bluesky are ceding the informational battlespace

2Pack

Weirdest thing I ever listened to was a guy in the barracks would play Yoko Ono, we all thought just to piss us off and fly his freak flag. Both worked. “Shove My Face through a Plate Glass Window” is now embedded in the psychological foundation of a Cold War airborne recon platoon.

And I can’t get it out of my head.

BC Dick

Good lord. I would’ve thought that’d be grounds for getting your ass kicked.
I mean, taste is subjective and all that but I’ve never met a fan and Zeus willing I never will.
Goddamn.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=guv5LUT1AFw&ra=m

2Pack

Well other than that odd quirk, he pulled his weight in the field, was a solid arm in any bar room fights and was funny as fuck.

So we let the Yoko thing slide.

BC Dick

Yeah you gotta have some counterweight to that.
Still doesn’t make sense. Bjork is shit but I at least get the appeal. There’s talent there. I’m going to have to think on that for a while.

Bogdanski

Weasalo: March related question: have you ever heard of different sections of a march being called “strains”? Specifically “Nobles of the Mystic Shrine” which I thought was on Rush’s third album until I saw it was by Sousa.

Bogdanski

I will listen to “The Heliocentric Worlds of Sun Ra, Vol. 1” any time. In lab in grad school, before everyone had their own headphones on all the time, I got them to listen to “Interstellar Space” with the assurance that “It’s Coltrane, it’ll come around and sound good to you really soon”. Made it all the way to “Venus”. Joe McPhee’s album “Nation Time” will always be my favorite free jazz, though

Doktor Zymm

I have this album
https://youtu.be/7O0eHDMuf5s

Last edited 7 hours ago by Doktor Zymm
Redshirt

Spencer Steer fan-interference call hurts Reds vs Nationals | Reaction

(closes eyes tightly; pinches bridge of nose)

“Okay…that’s a new way to lose.”

SonOfSpam

I thought maybe it was you. Glad to hear it wasn’t.

Redshirt

Free Hockey? Free Basketball? Did I wake up in an Alternate Earth where Bernie Sanders became President?

Horatio Cornblower

Felt kind of bad for the Wild goaltender. You could tell he knew what was coming and couldn’t do a damn thing about it.

Mr. Ayo

So long Hughes and friends.

Totally didn’t blow that game.

Horatio Cornblower

Oh, but they did.

Not that it mattered: the Wild weren’t taking 3 straight from the Avs in this or any other universe.

Sharkbait

For the overtime challenge:
Necas/Faber

Redshirt

Anyone else getting Bengals-Steelers vibes from this Pistons-Cavs game? I’m not saying they are trying to send their opponent in the hospital or in the CTE Express Lane like we were back in the ’00s and ’10s, but these highlights seem a bit aggressive for NBA.

Horatio Cornblower

Oooh, and the Avalanche make things a bit interesting!

Sharkbait

Faint aromas of bananacakes baking in Denver right now

Horatio Cornblower

And now we do a line of cocaine, rev up the motorcycle, and signal the helicopter crew to drop the gate, because we’re goin’ to OVERTIME!!!

BallsofLacrosseAndMapleSyrup

Dammit I want to watch but also go to sleep

BC Dick

East coast sports watching must be painful. Not to mention maritime and Newfoundland.
It’s not even 8 here. I can make it least one OT period before bed

BC Dick

Could’ve been Nordiques-North Stars but we get two teams with cartoon jerseys and arena football names

Mr. Ayo

FREE HOCKEY!!!

Sharkbait

Played 2 games of hockey tonight. My regular game and as a sub for another team. At least I won my game. The sub team did me zero favors defensively.

TL:DR: I’m tired and having a beer. How the fuck ya doing?

BallsofLacrosseAndMapleSyrup

Thank you for subbing

SonOfSpam

The dom was pleased with his performance.

BC Dick

Are you a goalie? There is no scarcer a resource in grown man whale shit hockey than a capable (breathing) ‘tender.
You should charge for subbing if that’s the case. In beer, of course.

I’m doing well, to answer the question. Had a good night of bowling – won $16 with 3 turkeys – and recently rediscovered the joys of crunchy peanut butter.

Sharkbait

Can confirm I am a goalie. Beers were procured by my teammates since I had an hour to kill between games

NotShogunButShogun

Metal music is full of odd genres and subgenres. Sunn O))) will test many (live they will kill your ears).

Bogdanski

https://www.discogs.com/artist/4272983-Feck?srsltid=AfmBOopEo5ZH3rkzxi3_7WsKCSkfxk7bGeVPsGU31MdnkI9dVcrZi0Ms
I don’t know if you ever experienced these guys live but they seemed to be aiming for the same thing. Just with more fog machines

Horatio Cornblower

If I had to pick Chris Chelios out of a line-up that featured Frankenstein’s Monster I would flip a coin.

rockingdog
ballsofsteelandfury
Doktor Zymm

That’s not even the weirdest King Missle song. Possible candidate:
https://youtu.be/DreCUhu7kbs

BrettFavresColonoscopy

I think it has to be a Wesley Willis tune. Maybe Cut the Mullet

https://youtu.be/UaPk-TGwHEg?si=BIUhRl0EABCCsR6_

BrettFavresColonoscopy

But maybe I Whooped Batman’s Ass or Suck a Cheetah’s Dick

https://youtu.be/tnCk0uGwFZI?si=rcj82zyNvX2jktZC

Bogdanski

Rock over London, rock on Chicago. Capital One. What’s in your wallet?

Gumbygirl

Yeah. This one, with the bums
https://youtu.be/eqS-0dq7oHg?si=QCv1MtNfVV-SKvgt

ballsofsteelandfury

Weirdest song?

Horatio Cornblower

Mock draft idea? Mock draft idea.

BC Dick

How does one define weird for this exercise? I’ve heard this song several times recently on a local oldies station and it seems very weird to still be playing it, considering the prominent paedo content.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qJFVPxBpezk&ra=m

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Please see my submissions above

BC Dick

No

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