Beggars at the Feast

Last week, the hapless Cleveland Browns lost yet again in what (on paper and prior to kickoff) seemed like their best chance to obtain a victory this season.  When Tennessee scored a touchdown to go up 28-13 with less than seven minutes remaining in the game, it seemed like another straightforward (if ignominious) loss would go into the books.  But although you can find “cede” and “leave”, you’ll never find “quit” in “Cleveland” so the Browns went ahead and Cool Hand Luked their way into a few more shots to their collective jaw by scoring a touchdown with 2:07 remaining, cutting the score to 28-19.  When faced with this situation (a deficit of 9 points with a very good chance at making the one-point conversion and a fifty-fifty chance of making the two), many people’s first instinct would be to take the one point, with the hope of recovering an onsides kick, scoring another touchdown, and THEN going for two.

This is not the correct strategy.

Under the assumption that your chances of making the two point conversion are the same regardless of WHEN you attempt it, it actually makes more sense to try it first – because if you fail, you now know you need two scores and can plan accordingly.  Your chances of succeeding are still very slim (now you’ve got to recover TWO onsides kicks), but they are better than none – which is what your chances would be if your failed two point conversion happens on the final play of the game.

Most folks can see the logic in this argument.  But not this guy.  Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you: The Most Intransigent Football Fan in America.

 

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Sill Bimmons

Florida?

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Florida.

scotchnaut

Pretty sure that’s a snake, Sill.

Sill Bimmons

It’s like watching a Trump supporter argue with a really, REALLY intelligent turnip.

entropy

So which one of these guys is really Gregggggggg Easterbrook writing under a pseudonym?

Sill Bimmons

Both.

blackroseMD1

Australia seems like a pretty cool place aside from all the murdery animals and plants.

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Unsurprised

I’m going to wager that’s not an official Australian government account.

LemonJello

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blackroseMD1

I’m sure it’s not. Still made me laugh though.

Sill Bimmons

I thought it was the Australia Department.

That’s the official one.

Bloody Lethal

They want to review every PI call and maybe every single call?

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jjfozz

If anyone needs news from a year ago, shoot me an email. Apparently I went back in time to the Ravens 2015 season because every last fucking person on the team is on IR. And Flacco may not start on Sunday.

Yes, no eliteness. Plus Geno Smith is playing.

I am snorting tequila up my nose right now. It burns, but it’s a numbing burn.

Sill Bimmons

TEH GREPENIS is out 4-6 weeks.

The Drano doesn’t so much “numb” as “the opposite of numb.”

SonOfSpam

Well, his name and “logic” suggest that he’s a Polack, so I’ll guess Bears.

Can we say “Polack” in 2016? Or should I say something less offensive, like “moron” or “idiot” or “conservative”?

Trevor Semen

Most of my family has the last name of Lonowski. I can confirm, most Polacks are dense as fuck.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Patriots?

Trevor Semen

My guess would probably be the P*ts, he seems like a P*ts kind of guy.

Unsurprised

P*ts

Doktor Zymm

Are the Bengals the Playoff Browns?

yeah right

Marvin: “It doesn’t work that way Chad.”

Chad: ” But what if it did?”

SonOfSpam

Rhetorical: How great was the Ochocinco character-with-a-K?

Spanky Datass
LemonJello

Only thing missing:

“You’re right, but go fuck yourself.”

Beerguyrob

I call bullshit. At no point in this argument did they switch to discussing the merits of chili on a PB&J.

https://twitter.com/dannyandbarkley/status/788546902304313344

Unsurprised

Shit sandwich

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Mid-westerners have… unusual tastes.

The Maestro

tl;dr

Low Commander of the Super Soldiers

I’m not sure what is more sad: the fact that this went on as long as it did, the guy constantly proving himself wrong or that I read this entire thing.

The answer is, of course, the Cleveland Browns.

Doktor Zymm

This guy sounds like a blackjack player, those are the only other people I’ve met who are so entirely resistant to basic math and logic.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

But I can feel a hot streak coming!

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This is still not as good at the guys who argued over whether there were seven or eight days in a week.

http://gawker.com/bodybuilders-try-fail-to-calculate-number-of-days-in-1677545788

Don T

8-point deficit is a one possession game = “Oh I got my masters. All I gotta do is sit down and write the thesis”.

blaxabbath

This Bantle guy reminds me of one of those youtube videos (they’re probably still up) made by P*ts fans where they explain why NYG shouldn’t have won the helmet catch Super Bowl. It’s some [white, young, backwards hat (obvi)] guy who is so frustrated just filming his TV and has a stopwatch in his hand and he’s explaining how the clock should have been running here and there and then, just as Eli breaks a huddle, the guy explains that the Giants are out time.

It’s truly amazing to me that people (other than Andy Reid) don’t understand that, as score/time/down/distance change, so does the game plan.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Going for the kicked extra point early.

“So ur sayin’ thar’s a chance?”
-Team

Going for two and failing ( 44.79% are successful); I would think for the Brown with a poor redzone offense the chances are less. Versus this year the Brownies are 9/10 extra points 90%.

“Where is the BIG fork? ‘Cause we’s done.”

-Team

blaxabbath

So, basically, this guy thinks that it’s better to guarantee yourself a drawn-out close loss than to give yourself any chance at a victory because then you risk a two-score loss?

Man, the Trump campaign should have brought in this guy like four months ago.

King Hippo

He just wanted the game to stay one possession and seem closer. THAT is the psychology, but it is UNQUESTIONABLY bad maths and a losing strategery.

Huzzah for Hue Jackson FOAR a change.

Don T

Not to say having the chance TO WIN in regulation with only one onside kick. That is strategy, not “Flood the rivers with our dead” blind faith.
/sigh of relief

ballsofsteelandfury

Two Cleveland fans arguing about winning strategy is like me arguing with my best friend about the best way to sexually please Mila Kunis.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

EXACTLY! NONE of us can afford to hire that many pool boys.

SonOfSpam

The answer is: Let her go down on Natalie Portman.

Beerguyrob

Banner?

BANNER!