Your D-Day Evening Open Thread

There’s not a lot I need to tell you about D-Day. It’s one of the seminal moments of the 20th Century, in terms of military & world history. It changed the world we were born into, and the ramifications of that day & that war still influence geopolitical conflicts today.

What I will share is the words to the troops by General Eisenhower & part of the text of FDR’s prayer to the American people from that day. The banner image is the note FDR made in his day planner about when to make the radio address to the American people.

Eisenhower’s words were of a soldier to his men, trying to reinforce their will as they embarked upon a mission one in ten would not return from. He is trying to burnish the steel he hoped was in their spines:

Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well equipped, and battle-hardened. He will fight savagely.

But this is the year 1944. Much has happened since the Nazi triumphs of 1940-41. The United Nations have inflicted upon the Germans great defeats, in open battle, man-to-man. Our air offensive has seriously reduced their strength in the air and their capacity to wage war on the ground. Our Home Fronts have given us an overwhelming superiority in weapons and munitions of war, and placed at our disposal great reserves of trained fighting men. The tide has turned. The free men of the world are marching together to victory.      Source

It takes a man of extreme character to speak words he knows not everyone will hear due to their fear, but he knows he has to say something as they embark upon the task he has planned out for them. He wanted to show he appreciated and believed in their ability to complete their appointed tasks. As such, he never had to read his “In the event of failure” speech, which is on display in his museum in Kansas.

FDR, meanwhile, was trying to reassure the American people – 40% of whom did not want to participate in the war before Pearl Harbor – that the sacrifice their boys were making overseas was right & just, and that

For these men are lately drawn from the ways of peace. They fight not for the lust of conquest. They fight to end conquest. They fight to liberate. They fight to let justice arise, and tolerance and good will among all Thy people. They yearn but for the end of battle, for their return to the haven of home.

Some will never return. Embrace these, Father, and receive them, Thy heroic servants, into Thy kingdom.

And for us at home — fathers, mothers, children, wives, sisters, and brothers of brave men overseas — whose thoughts and prayers are ever with them–help us, Almighty God, to rededicate ourselves in renewed faith in Thee in this hour of great sacrifice.

Described by his son as a “frustrated clergyman”, FDR felt the monumental scope of the event warranted more than one of his “Fireside Chats“, which by the start of the war had become viewed by many as more of a propaganda exercise than heartfelt explanation of his government’s policy. Given the American tendency to turn to God at times of crisis (as evinced by the “thoughts & prayers” mentality of today), he felt offering a national prayer would be more unfiying.

If nothing else, these two speeches show two leaders trying in their own way to acknowledge the scope of the effort before them, thank the participants for their sacrifice, and prepare people for the inevitability of what was to come. Sure, FDR was a scoundrel & Ike might have been politically naive, but they were the right people at the right time. Political purity tests can’t account for that.


Tonight’s sports:

  • NHL:
    • Jets at Habs – 6:00pm | NBCSN / Sportsnet
    • Avs at Vegas – 8:30pm | NBCSN / Sportsnet
  • NBA:
    • no night games
  • MLB:
    • Red Sox at Yankees – 7:00pm | ESPN / TSN5

It’s a very slow night on TV, so please try to entertain yourselves.

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A Canadian man-child of indeterminate age, he stays young by selling alcohol at sporting events and yelling at the patrons he serves. Their rage nourishes his soul, and their tips pay for his numerous trips to various sporting events.
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Horatio Cornblower

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
/dies smiling like The Joker.

Mr. Ayo

BALL DON’T LIE!

Horatio Cornblower

Aww, shit, we have a handball scenario!

Horatio Cornblower

I don’t think that’s a real handball, but I absolutely think it’s going to be called a handball.

Mr. Ayo

Nawt a handball!

Mr. Ayo

OMG, kill this ref.

Horatio Cornblower

You absolutely knew it was coming.

Mr. Ayo

PULISIC!!!

USA! USA! USA!

Horatio Cornblower

I’ll give him some credit for running over to the Mexican fans and talking shit. I know I’m not that brave.

Mr. Ayo

That corner turned into a war zone. Good on them.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I like how someone throwing a water bottle at an NBA game led to a felony arrest while Pulisic just took like half a dozen to the face and nobody batted an eyelash.

Horatio Cornblower

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Horatio Cornblower

Holy shit, this game has absolutely gone to hell.

Mr. Ayo

Red cards for all!

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I have joined the soccer-viewing party at the perfect time.

Horatio Cornblower

Here are your bananacakes, sir.

Horatio Cornblower

This PK for the US is going to set back US-Mexico relations….Hold on, getting something in my earpiece…

Ah, never mind; they haven’t been this bad since approximately 1854.

TheRevanchist

This bullshit announcing on CBS makes me want to vomit.

Horatio Cornblower

It’s pretty bad, but to be fair there apparently are people diving over railings behind them.

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Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Do you not get Univision?

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I felt bad that things did go better for the 32 year-old woman who tried to compete in the gymnastics against kids literally half her age, but not so bad that I didn’t laugh a little when she fell flat on her face.

Gumbygirl

That was a hella smack. I’m sore for her!

Horatio Cornblower

The US thinking that they’d have an advantage playing in the Mile High City without bothering to check the altitude of Mexico City is pretty hilarious.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I presume most Americans think Mexico consists entirely of Tijuana and Cancun and Cabo San Lucas.

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Horatio Cornblower

/Points confidently at Brazil

“And this is the coffee growing area of Mexico known as Chiapas”

Mr. Ayo

Can these two just kiss and get it over with?

Horatio Cornblower

And the Mexican fans celebrate Pride Month a little too enthusiastically.

Horatio Cornblower

THAT SAVE I CALL IT BLACK JACK PERSHING BECAUSE IT HAS STOPPED THE MEXICAN INCURSION COLD!

Horatio Cornblower

So what happens if we get to the end of regulation? Two 15 minute OTs and PKs?

Mr. Ayo

Correct.

Horatio Cornblower

Christ.

litre_cola

So sleepy

Horatio Cornblower

The US-Mexico game has gone plaid.

blaxabbath

So funny just seeing crowds back on tv. People are just like, “gummie this filthy ass world — WITH CHEESE ON TOP!”

litre_cola

Well then, that was coming for the last 20 minutes. Nice gol.

Mr. Ayo

USA! USA! USA!

litre_cola

Did nae see where the equalizer was going to come from but here we are.

TheRevanchist

Goal!!!

blaxabbath

It’s neat that Vegas has enjoyed the knights not being bad from the start. Because the Raiders are gonna break their hearts and then one day the knights will be bad too and these folks will get to enjoy the true pain of having a pro franchise.

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Brick Meathook

The Raiders will fill the stands with tourists from the sports books. It will be like the Chargers and the crowd will be full of fans of the opponents.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

There will be a lot of opposing fans, sure, but there are lots of Raiders fans around the country who will also travel to see them play. It won’t be like the Chargers games.

Brick Meathook

Raiders fans don’t have money to travel, unless they build the railroad from L.A. to Vegas and they can travel unreserved coach.

Viva La Tabula Raza

*blows hand off with unsafe dynamite.*

BeefReeferLives

/JPP has entered the chat

blaxabbath

I still don’t get what a donair is.

Brick Meathook

A donair is a gyro made by Middle-Eastern immigrants who couldn’t get into the United States where they would have made gyros but instead they went to Canada and called them “donairs” while they dreamed of sweet sweet American liberty and dollars and making gyros.

blaxabbath

Oh ok. That’s so funny. That’s the best I could understand because like that’s all I think this shaved meat and pita is gyros.

King of Donair shiuld make stores in us malls.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

The sequel to Con Air?
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Horatio Cornblower

It’s a crossover with the Donner Party.

TheRevanchist

College World Series: dude just took a fast ball to the face. He tried to bunt. Ball was just barely tipped, so it was a foul. That was some scary shit, but dude is up and okay, still at bat.

Horatio Cornblower

THIS MEXICAN TEAM, I CALL THEM PANCHO VILLA, BECAUSE THEY ARE SNEAK ATTACKING THE US!

blaxabbath

Not because Pancho was Mexican

Horatio Cornblower

MY ANALOGIES, MUCH LIKE MY DRAFTING STRATEGIES, DO NOT MAKE SENSE!!!

Dunstan

The NHL is bizarre. The refs go to video and decide that the Knights just scored a goal. Now Colorado is challenging for goaltender interference, meaning that the refs are going to go back and look at the same videos they just watched.

And, predictably, the challenge fails after about ten seconds…

Mr. Ayo

Don’t forget the Avs get a delay of game penalty on top of all that.

Dunstan

Yeah, although I can see the logic of “we’re fucked anyway if the goal stands and it’s 5-1.” But I have to wonder if the ref didn’t look at Colorado’s coach and say, “dude, you seriously want me to go back and watch the videos I just watched? It’s not going to go well for you….”

Horatio Cornblower

The Yankees are just truly awful right now.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Hee hee hee

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Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

The offense:

<blockquote class=”twitter-tweet”><p lang=”en” dir=”ltr”>If I were those &quot;cybersecurity experts&quot; I&#39;d download that video *right now* before Mo stupidly tweets out the password for the system and someone accesses the video and deletes it.</p>&mdash; [DoorFliesOpen] (@doorfliesopen) <a href=”https://twitter.com/doorfliesopen/status/1401705069452558337?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw”>June 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src=”https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js” charset=”utf-8″></script>

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

For those who missed it, while complaining about getting served with papers for a lawsuit, Mo tweeted out a photo of his laptop (not a screenshot, a photo) that included a post-it note of his email password and a PIN.

blaxabbath

This Chinese are going to decimate us.

Gumbygirl

As a former resident of Alabama, I can assure you that Mo is even dumber than you think he is.

Horatio Cornblower

Tried to serve his wife, did you?

BeefReeferLives

yea. & I have read they also charge the restaurants a hefty fee as well. I have started just calling direct when I can…

herodotus450

(Sees Mexico building a wall for free on a US free kick)
“I knew it!”
-Don T.

Horatio Cornblower

WE HAVE TO BUILD A WALL!! THOSE MEXICANS ARE STEALING OUR GOALS!!

Horatio Cornblower

I’m watching this on Univision.

I do not speak Spanish.
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Embrace the chaos.

Horatio Cornblower

THAT GOAL I CALL IT THE BATTLE OF SAN JACINTO, BECAUSE NOW WE’RE EVEN FOR THE FIRST GOAL, WHICH I CALLED THE ALAMO, FOR REASONS THAT SHOULD BE OBVIOUS.

Horatio Cornblower

Aaaaaaaand he’s offsides.

Mr. Ayo

And just like that, USA IS BACK!

Mr. Ayo

US Mutant Ninja Turtles are terrible.

Horatio Cornblower

I don’t think taking defensive tips from Arsenal was a great idea.

Gumbygirl

I believe the US gymnastics championship is on this evening, 7pm Pacific time on NBC. I might watch, I hear this Simone Biles is pretty good!

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Passing this information on to the Dr. Mrs. just scored me some points on my anniversary, so I owe you a six-pack, Gumbygirl.

Brick Meathook

I saw the east coast broadcast if you want to place some bets.

herodotus450

Don’t forget, some guy named Jake Mayweather is fighting tonight, too.

Dunstan

Is he the one from State Farm? Did things go bad between him and Aaron Rodgers?

Dunstan

And here comes the goonery. I guess the Jets are finally showing some kind of emotion.

(Well, not counting Scheifle, he was plenty emotional in Game One)

Doktor Zymm

I miss ice skating. I wonder if the rink down in SJC is open?

Dunstan

“Skating? What’s that?” — entire Winnipeg Jets roster right now

Brick Meathook

In honor of D-Day I’m drinking beers at the local Legion hall:

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King Hippo

Thank yeeeewww FOAR yer bucket service. All gave some, butt Brick GAVE ALL

King Hippo

I actually had dinner out, in a society that seems almost normal. I had a really good blackened shrimp salad at the Irregardless Cafe. A live band plays (pretty good, really) while I drink me coffee aperitif.

Life still sucks, sure. But I am enjoying the moment.

Doktor Zymm

Watching a free stream with chat, and so far my favorite comment has been a user with the user name “im a toilet seat” who commented “im a toilet seat”

TheRevanchist

Sounds like a disturbing porn waiting to happen.

blaxabbath

So what’s the plan for the nba? Lebron gonna age out and Kobe dead. They gonna go the mlb route and kind of just have a pool of stars but no “all time best” candidates? Or is there some 10th grader out there who is gonna run the league for a decade next?

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Fuck Kobe Bryant, that rapist piece of shit wasn’t even that good. He only won the MVP one time, and the year he did his stats were 28/6/5 compared to LeBron’s 30/8/7.

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Dunstan

That’s the quality hate I come here for.

blaxabbath

No shit.

I only mentioned the name as a logistics matter. And we’re letting this guy run the Twitter?

Doktor Zymm

I drove down to Monterrey today to check out the Aquarius Dive Shop used gear sidewalk sale. Most of the good stuff went yesterday, but while I was down there I realized that despite the number of times I’ve been down there I’ve never actually been to Cannery Row. The historic bit was neat, other than that it was total 90’s flashback. They had the stores selling hippyish new-age tat, with the spiky 90’s font on the signs, they have a Dippin’ Dots, they have a bench where you can take a photo as Forrest Gump, and they even have a used CD store. There was a lady about my age with purple hair and a Nirvana t-shirt. I felt simultaneously young and ancient.

Viva La Tabula Raza

I can never see a reference to Cannery Row without flashing to Steinbeck. Loved that book and Sweet Thursday as well….

blaxabbath

Went to five stores looking for Burts Bees diaper rash ointment. It is the best ointment and blaxito is under the weather. Waking through Walmart, it amazes me that we don’t have shipping containers or long haul trucks for industrial production but we do for gaylords of 90’s dvds at Walmart and aisles of faux distressed Live, Laugh, Love and Gather farmhouse signs.

Doktor Zymm

I somehow feel that the throughput of corny farmhouse signs is much lower than that of say, lithium ion batteries or similar. Those may be vintage pre-pandemic items!

blaxabbath

I have noticed all the bicycle signs have pictures of those ones with the huge wheel.

Doktor Zymm

I blame Patrick McGoohan for those. They weren’t particularly popular in their own time, due to being dangerous as fuck and there being a large selection of equally dangerous and impractical bicycles being available.

King Hippo

Thank yeeeeewwwww FOAR yes butt-rash service

Doktor Zymm

I have a theory that muting the TV and putting on the Carmina Burana improves hockey

Doktor Zymm

So far, so good

ballsofsteelandfury

I’ve actually learned to watch sports with the TV muted. Part of it is necessity because Euro soccer is on very early in the morning and I don’t want to wake up others in the house. I’ve gotten used to it, though, and it’s actually better.

herodotus450

Carmine Burana is a solid 3rd line center but probably not worth is cap hit smh.

herodotus450

“Armia Grounds Jets”
Yes hello The Winnipeg Post I’d like my 500 dollars for submitting a headline.

Doktor Zymm

FDR had much better handwriting than I do. Actually, most people in history had better handwriting than I do, but most people younger than me have crappier handwriting. And everyone under the age of 50 has almost identical signatures, but it’s okay because we never have to endorse checks anymore. I heard one of the kids that plays in the courtyard talking about handwriting was his worst grade and it was nostalgic.

Viva La Tabula Raza

I’ve noticed the decline in quality/legibility in my own handwriting over the last few years. I still have to write 3 or four checks a month, and I can barely recognize my own signature anymore.

blaxabbath

I tried to get out some handwritten letters in my Covid boredom. My handwriting makes taking me serious impossible.

Doktor Zymm

Aunt Summat?

King Hippo

I always said I had the handwriting of a doctor (Doktor??) But I was about 20 IQ points short.

herodotus450

These Winnipeg Jets I call them the opposite of the F-35 project because they are DONE.

Dunstan

That was a helluva sequence by Stasny. Coughs up the puck on the PP, dogs it on the backcheck, and then after the Habs score a shorthanded goal, takes a roughing penalty to negate the rest of the PP.

Brick Meathook

The D-Day landings at Omaha Beach were by regiments of the U.S. 1st Infantry Division, which was an combat experienced Regular Army outfit, and the U.S. 29th Infantry Division, which was a National Guard outfit primarily from Virginia and Maryland. The 29th had seen no combat, but spent two years in England training for the beach assault.

The first company of the 29th to hit “Bloody Omaha” were virtually annihilated by enemy fire; they were all from the small town of Bedford, Virginia. The 29th Division fought all the way from D-Day to VE-Day and took the most casualties of any American division in the war, at 200%. This means that statistically each man in the division was replaced twice.

Major General Charles Gerhardt commanded the 29th and his reputation suffered for the enormous casualties he took. It was said that Gerhardt actually commanded three divisions: one in the field, one in the hospital, and one in the cemetery.

Viva La Tabula Raza

Gerhardt, huh? Sounds, uh, Italian?

ballsofsteelandfury

So he was in charge of “Operation Get Behind The Darkies”?
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Brick Meathook

The U.S. military was segregated then, so The Darkies handled ammo and drove trucks in “Operation Get Behind The Ofays”

blaxabbath

Cant imagine the kind of kids in these units. Imagine fucking coming of age watching the nation KNOW they need to go physically fight the Nazis and then waiting til you’re an adult and then they hand you draft card and tell you to go defend the homeland for them.

Shit is wack

Doktor Zymm

And then there were the 16 and 17 year olds who lied about their age so they could join up 🙁

Brick Meathook

Gerhardt was West Point quarterback when they upset the otherwise undefeated Notre Dame team led by George Gipp (Ronald Reagan).

Viva La Tabula Raza

My grandad’s b-day of 06/06 was always easy to remember because of D-Day. He would have been 105 today (he made it to 98, so that ain’t too bad).

litre_cola

Turns on hockey game, Habs score within a minute.

Turns off hockey game.

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Dunstan

/bribes litre to turn tv on again

litre_cola

I am a sucker so you know I will.

Dunstan

Thanks!

litre_cola

I am real done now. This series will cost me a $100 bottle of rye, and a magnum of wine. Fuck.

ballsofsteelandfury

Nice writeup. I had completely forgotten today was D Day.