I cruised through Netflix last night, stopping randomly on a British movie called, you guessed it, ‘Villain’. I just love movies about gangsters where I understand every third word. I would say it was hardly original, but entertaining enough. Most importantly, it clocked in at a tidy 97 minutes, which is something more movies could take a lesson from these days. I, for one, do not need 220 minutes on why Batman’s fucked up childhood as led to his current life as a full-time billionaire, part-time vigilante. Do something, Congress!
Anyway, it did strike me that the villain is often the most interesting character in any particular medium, and that drafting them would kill a Monday almost as effectively as a villain might dispose of someone who has looked at them the wrong way.
For the rules, we go to this week’s commissioner, a man I would consider an all-timer at portraying villains, Mr. Peter Lorre.
The rules are simple, yet complicated, much like the ideal villain. They can be either an antagonist or a protagonist. Their role in the particular medium does not matter so much as their actions. The only rule I will impose strictly is that you cannot take an undead killing machine; there will be no Freddy Krugers or Jason Voorhees here. That’s too easy. Darth Vader would be an excellent choice, but so would Walter White: while one is clearly an antagonist and one a protagonist, both engage in activities undeniably villainous. Choose to your taste.
Just for some meta fun, Peter Lorre characters are on the board. If a conflict arises that Peter feels he is not able to impartially decide, I’ll have my first pick step in.
Speaking of that, with the first pick, something that should be obvious from the featured image, I take Tywin Lannister. Charles Dance’s portrayal of Tywin in ‘Game of Thrones’ was terrific. A man absolutely worthy of hatred, a man undeniably opposed, (frequently quite successfully), to the protagonists, yet not without the (very) occasional redeeming touch.
The rest of you are on the clock. As always, wait ten picks or 30 minutes.
Gaear Grimsrud – Fargo
4. Marquise Isabelle de Merteuil – as portrayed by Glenn Close in Dangerous Liasons.
(sorry if this was rushed; I’ve got errands to take care of)
3rd vacuuming of the living room for the day?
With my first pick and no regard for value, I select Shooter McGavin
(Balls’s finger guns tremble)
(So do Michael J Fox’s)
That’s perfectly fine value – he was a great villain.
Blake (Alec Baldwin) from Glengarry, Glenross
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Lf8GtMe4M
Brilliant scene. Too bad Mamet’s gone full ‘Tucker Carlson’ of late.
I mean, it’s a little overplayed but Heath Ledger’s Joker has to be considered a Value Steal at this point, right? He was the only thing worth watching (other than Michael Caine) in a 2.5 hour slog
Parliamentary Inquiry: Does this count as this version of Joker or all versions?
Excellent point. Working on the fly here I will say no. Heath Ledger’s Joker is off the board. All other versions remain eligible. This obviously applies to other instances of multiple actors playing the same character in different films/shows as well.
Did someone say villains?
https://twitter.com/calebsaysthings/status/1518356998059819008?t=_pd7HFh0zlNp45RQXVmyKg&s=19
We’re drafting villains sir; hapless dipshits will be a topic for another time.
If that’s the case, Donald Trump would’ve been #1 off the board.
The Trinity Killer- Arthur Mitchell from Dexter
Iago – Othello
I am the winner and will take two questions. My answers:
1. Don’t be ridiculous
2. 🖕🏼
Shakespeare?
Looks like we’ve got a reader on our hands, boys! Get ‘im!
2nd round and I cannot believe she lasted this long Cat woman. Y’all see what I’m doing here right?
Typing with one hand?
Posted without additional comment:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H7RkiOck8u4
Brick Top
GREAT pick!
Yeah, whoever that actor is did an outstanding job.
Alan Ford, I believe.
3. Chad – as portrayed by Aaron Eckhart – in In the Company of Men. If you’ve seen the film you can appreciate just how awful and nasty he is at heart, and how much damage he does to the lives of the people who are unfortunate enough to come into his orbit.
(curiously enough, I thought of this pick *before* the Louise Fletcher sign language thing – interesting coincidence)
really goddamned good pick
Black Phillip.
I had to look this up, but I love it. Sounds like the real animal was a villain as well.
The Russell Crowe of animal actors.
Christopher Columbus.
If real people aren’t allowed, Gerard Depardieu as Christopher Columbus. Fuck that guy.
Yeah, to be clear this is a draft for fictional villains. Guess I should have clarified that above. So Columbus is out, because he’s real, and Depardieu is out because he is a) real and b) portraying a historical figure.
But the Commissioner agrees that both of them are huge assholes.
Erases “The British Empire” from the draft board
There will be another draft of “Historical Figures You’d Erase” in the future.
I’m taking Hitler off the board as “goes without saying”
I’d fuck with this so hard
can this be next Monday’s?
If I remember, sure.
The Portuguese got there first.
Judge Holden, Blood Meridian.
/if you know, you know
Righteous.
Since my last pick was voideded
Dierks (from Letterkenny)
/sorry for the spoiler
My next pick is Game Time Decision, for the spoiler
I’ll allow it, as I’m imaginary
What the fuck!?
Suave. Sophisticated. Nazi?
Hans Landa everyone.
Damn, he was next up on my board.
Early Grayce: Kalifornia, Brad Pitt is exceptional as the villain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egB-SG97EcI
Deep dive…and a good one
Evil Abed!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBMHwuir4FE
Bill Belichick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UllkNSsEXdw
Disallowed, as Belichick exists in the real world.
But don’t think I don’t appreciate the sentiment.
but he’s got that contract with Satan, so is he really real?
Harley, she was bad right?
/ not really that up on the topic
Excellent pick!
puddin
A clear villain, even if a sometime protagonist, full-time “has some redeeming value” type
Matty Walker, from Body Heat.
This classic femme fatale is for Balls
Much appreciated
Bit of a reach at this point, IMO, but I certainly had her on my board. Definitely worthy of having on your roster.
Yeah, I was drafting for need at that point. In that Balls needed more sexy femme fatales in this thing, and in all things.
Tim Dalt–erm, Simon Skinner – Hot Fuzz
Pick for THE GREATER GOOD.
The Yellow King… Carcosa… whatever you wanna call him. Some of the best goddamn TV ever made.
Yeah, clearly the best villain of any of the three seasons.
That last season started off so well and then fell of a fucking cliff in the last two episodes.
A bit of a limp finish, though. Not that it took much away from the series; just that it peaked somewhere in the middle rather than at the end.
Early in DFO History, I tried started a deep-dive series for the new Season 2. A combination of me being a lazy shit, and the fact that nobody but me and Rikki didn’t hate it – I gave up after one try.
You must be thinking of someone else – I never started watching Season 2.
I didn’t hate it Season 2 as much as some others, but there’s no arguing that there’s a dramatic drop-off in quality from Season 1.
I didn’t hate Season 2, but it’s probably fair to argue that there’s no possible way it could’ve ever lived up to expectations with Season 1 being as good as it was.
Fair. Guy worked on what became Season 1 for years, then was expected to turn around and duplicate that success in months.
It was me. Maybe because it was filmed locally, Vernon to be exact, but I thought it was solid.
Keyser Soze
I think when I knew I was gonna marry my ex-wife, is when I took her to see this movie (I had already seen it). I was on and on about what a mindfuck it was, and like 15 minutes in, she exclaims oh, it’s him. He is Keyser Soze.
I about hit the floor (good thing it was too gross to commit to same), out of admiration and sheer envy. NOBODY FIGURES IT OUT, goddamnit!!!
I would never have married anyone diabolical enough to figure that out that quickly.
That part turned Hippo on.
SHE HAD TWO SHOULDERS!!!
Ming The Merciless
2. Nurse Ratched. Movie or book version; both are great.
That’s a quality pick.
Am I misremembering my Oscar history or was she the first to at least partially sign her speech, because one or both of her parents was deaf?
One might argue that Louise Fletcher set a terrible precedent for the Academy Awards ceremony by letting her hands do the talking.
Go sit in the corner and think about what you’ve just done.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gtHI0ipkgEo&feature=youtu.be
How have I never seen that before?
Also, ‘The Last Detail’ is a better movie than ‘Chinatown’. Discuss.
You’re not wrong by any means.
Mr. Blonde – Reservoir Dogs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGkXI6jRpvA
Counterpoint, the Blair Witch
As another of our villains would say: Excellent.
God damn it – Controlled F using Blonde not Blond, sorry Yeah Right
Mr. Burns. I’ll let him weigh in on my choice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le6FwBypMrA
Hey, I was saying Boo-urns.
Loki.
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Daniel Larusso
We go to the Commissioner for a ruling:
ABSOLUTELY A VILLAIN
[debates drafting Pete “Maverick” Mitchell]
Seriously. Johnny was just trying to blaze up a fatty and Daniel’s gotta mess with him? Uncool.
Mr. Blond.
Next pick is the one and only:
Which should start a run on Bond Girl villains.
I just though of a great one, and now I have to wait a half hour and hope Balls doesn’t steal her.
Considering I just picked, you’re safe
It’s not even a Bond girl.
Is Vesper a villain, considering her motivations and later actions, or someone forced into an act of betrayal? I would argue the latter, and that she therefore doesn’t qualify as a villain, but if you think that’s going to stop me from putting up a picture of Ms. Green you’re out of your mind.
Pretty sure Commissioner Lorre will allow it.
The Commissioner rule that Vesper is not, in fact a villain, but more of a damsel in distress who takes extreme action, against her own wishes and desires in order to save someone she loves. As might be said by some of your more inarticulate followers: NAWT A FAHCKIN’ VILIA…VALL..VILIOU…LOOK, SHE’S NAWT A FAHCKIN’ BADDIE, OK!?
Nonetheless, the Commissioner also rules that posting pictures of Eva Green is appropriate for this mock draft, and in fact all mock drafts. Ms. Green simply transcends the limitations of topics.
Oh, what a fun topic!
1. Hannibal Lecter
There are some who would say we are in love…
Dukat from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. The best villains are the ones that don’t realize they are the villain and think they are the hero in the story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEsT0z8Fdg8
Vern Schillinger (he will rape you! bum-ba-dum-bum-bum-pa-dum!!):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekOBn1IBa7E
Oh fuck yes.
I can’t believe they let that psycho out to sell insurance.
Probably don’t let him run point with Black customers, though
Warden Norton
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I mean, come on.
Vito Corleone
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/Cue inarticulate yelling from goombahs insisting he’s a hero and you just don’t understand the movie.
Lori Quaid:
Our first repeat villain!
The Commissioner notes that Balls apparently set a timer for 30 minutes just to put up sexy pictures of Sharon Stone as a villain. The Commissioner wishes to clarify that this is not just allowed, but encouraged.
Hard to believe, but Ms. Stone is a YINZER. Great shoulders, too.
Walter White was a goddamned EVERYMAN HERO and I will fight yewwww over this.
This (Anton from No Country For Old Men) is easily the best villainry I have ever encountered (somehow he’s even a bigger, MOAR terrifying badass in the book):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opbi7d42s8E
This is the only correct answer.
Hans Gruber
WCS will be furious this is off the board!
He’s off of something, all right.
Thanos
I consider him a hero just slightly ahead of his time.
If Thanos Had an Assistant – YouTube
Every argument that “EaRTh Has ENouGH REsourCes FOr EvERYonE” argument fails to take fresh water into account.
If you think oil wars are fun, wait until your grandkids are invading/defending Canada for water.
Catherine Trammel:
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This is my favorite comment of the draft
Evil (David Warner) in Time Bandits:
Brewmeister Smith from Strange Brew:
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Lord Vader.
Archibald Cunningham (Tim Roth) in Rob Roy
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Gah, I had a better one come to mind as soon as I posted this, the waiting begins
This would have been my number one pick. Such a POS.