2024 Copa América: Journey to the Extreme (Argentina Preview)

Argentina has Lionel Messi, the world’s most famous player. “Again!”, point out pointedly some folks my age or older who saw Diego Armando “D10s” Maradona play (197X – 1990). Sure, there are some folks who call Him the most INfamous futbolista, to which I retort:

Pft [averts gaze, mutters] this guy…

Haters can’t even say His name right! “Maradonner Maradonner*”. So I’m carding them with a yellow for xenophobia and being all English and fucking butthurt since 1986.

* I’ve yet to meet a fellow hispanohablante who doesn’t like** Maradona. That’s anecdotal evidence, not xenofobia ¿okei? OK. ** All things considered now that He is dead, of course. End of caveat within caveat.

Either way, you get it: when it comes to Argentina, there are no middle grounds.

Argentina is the defending Copa América champion and the defending World Cup champion. Say what you will about the Slave Labor Mundial, but goddammit that final against France was an incredible game. Argentina has been a juggernaut ever since, continuing to beat Brazil on the Reg. in qualifiers for 2026. The current mood for Albiceleste fans is

That right there is a caricature of Argentinian President Javier Milei, himself a caricature in real life. More on him later, after discussing the current state of Argentina hate.

Most Hispanics consider Argentinians as waaay arrogant pieces of shit troglodytes with anger issues who play nasty and fight dirty and AND, oh yeah, they are the sorest fucking losers—¡Ah, ah! Más que los italianos. Beh. So goes the traditional view, expurgated on account that today is Argentinian Flag Day. ¡Feliz Día de la Bandera Argentina! to all who celebrated. Now let’s continue talking shit about them.

Just kidding JK. The truth is that a vast majority of Hispanics finds Argentinians arrogant (duh!) and waaay sore when they lose. But some of us wonder why, too: why are Argentinians like that? The XXIst Century has plagued Argentina with staggering public debt, currency devaluations and hyperinflation. And they have been afflicted by a recognized blight within the field of social sciences, what is termed “Argentinian public administration” in academia. For the benefit of STEM folks, lemme explain: the Argie governments have acted like economic Ebola getting into every nook and cranny of the fisc, hAemorrhaging kickbacks, bribes, favors… Kidding aside, for real this time: it’s a shitty situation living under terrible, neglectful, greedy, crony politicians. We can never lose sight of that.

But I go and try to commiserate and show sympathy to fellow latinoamericanos and all I get from an Argentinian is a performance piece about pizza “as we know it” being invented in the XVIIth century in “Palermo [beat] ¡Buenos Aires sche!” and a harangue about el alegado San Marzano really being a tomato strain aboriginal to Lima—not Perú, but Lima the town in Zárate Partido in Buenos Aires and goddammit let’s change topic. I’m through carrying water for the Argies.

Among the Argentinian fauna is the harpy eagle, the largest eagle in the hemisphere and the biggest predator in the continent. Similarly, Argentina’s President, Javier Milei, is the largest Muppet in the hemisphere and harped nonstop on giving the Leatherface treatment to government expense, if elected. 🔞📛CLICK ALERT 📛🔞 Argentinian politics are not OSHA compliant, you have been warned:

Milei labels himself as an anarcho-capitalist, a right-wing Libertarian who nonetheless wants to ban abortion. Libertarian BUT Anti-abortion: a clash of concepts that illustrates the utter meaninglessness of words when used in mass communications. This is why I advocate for gif- & emoji-based interactions. It’s more heartfelt 😛

Milei is an economics professor by trade and has four English mastiffs: Murray, Milton, Robert, and Lucas. The four dogs are named for economists Milei admires: Murray Rothbard, Milton Friedman and Robert… Lucas. Anyway, those four English mastiffs are clones of Milei’s previous dog, Conan (named after The Barbarian). Conan, as everyone in Argentina knows, died in 2017–but Milei still communicates with Conan through séances (source:

). Did I just find out about that book? Yes. Did I impulse buy it? Oh sí. Will I read it from the beginning and set time aside daily after work and stuff until I get to the end?

I’ve yet to read a page! What is this commitment talk, “until the end”? Hasty, hasty talk. Nonetheless, rrreally looking forward to sinking my eyes into that book because Milei’s story is Holy Shit WOW.

Here’s a summary, off the top of my head. Javier Milei is 53, from a middle class family, former youth goalkeeper, economics grad and postgrad, nicknamed El Loco since a kid because he was prettay, prettay… unusual. Let’s go with unusual.

Young Milei was a recognizable loudmouth (source: Argentinianness + ambition). He became the cool Econ. professor who, say, talks animatedly about an open market for human body parts and that government is an oppressive apparatus when it forbids you from selling your hypothalamus for a Lamborghini minivan or other supremely stupid and extravagant merchandise. Milei started to gain notoriety during The Covids (my guess? During the “everybody drankin” part of the global lockdown). His in-your-face speeches with assorted cussin’ about eliminating government expense, plus Drain-The-Swamp rhetoric, got Milei elected as legislator in 2021. Sometime around that time, political Swamp Things stepped in to turn Milei’s notoriety wave into a propaganda tsunami. Hungary’s Victor Orban? He’s a Milei fan. Donald Trump? Biiig fan. Huge. Milei will Make Argentina Great Again. The biggest fan.

Milei was elected President in 2023, under the slogan ¡Viva la libertad carajo! or “Long live freedom goddammit!”. Except abortion–freedom for males, fuck UUu!1!11 Milei also looks back fondly on the Argentinian Military Junta days, says all civilian kidnappings between the 70s and 80s are exaggerations and fake news by zurdos de mierda, and the Milei government has been jailing dissenters like they were teenagers flying a Palestinian flag in a U.S. university. But Milei loves doggos. Nobody who sleeps in bed with four yooge dogs with Economists’ names can be evil, right? His sister, however, mmm… Karina Milei is Javier Milei’s closest advisor. They are like this 🤞🏼, those two, and the Internet is full of Cersei – Jamie Lannister whispers about the Milei siblings. It’s low hanging, totally morbid, bottom feeding clickbait shit. God I hope the book covers it. Another thing: Karina Milei is a publicist and marketer by trade and has several cats, named after Kiss drummers I’m sure.

As to the fútbol, uf:

Via @Squawka

That is a stackT team right there. The coach is still Lionel Scaloni, everybody’s safety pick in the Latin American parlor game “Name a Personable Argie”. TMZ types would like to point out that Scaloni’s brother Mauro stands accused, since this March, on kidnapping and extortion charges. I don’t think anybody in this Copa América will ask Lionel Scaloni if his brother’s case is a distraction, unless they start sending NFL reporters to the press conferences. Let’s settle this once and for all: EVERYTHING that is not fitbaw is a distraction for ALL NFL players and coaches. We do NOT have to go over this distraction business every time.

Argentina plays in Group A,

And has the following schedule, all times Central:

Argentina v. Canada TODAY WOOO – 7:00 PM

Megatron’s Butthole, Hotlanna

Argentina v. Chile – Tuesday June 25, 8:00 PM

Jerryworld, Fetusville

Argentina v. Perú – Saturday June 29 – 7:00 PM

Hard Rock Stadium, Gentrified Havana

Top two in the Copa América groups pass through to single elimination, none of that leg-up, best third place crap. We’re in the Third World now, where there is a dramatic imbalance in talent and where the only rule is scrape by and dominate the opposition like they were pathetic CONCACAF teams.

CANADA: We are right right here, eh, and NOT chopped liver. Sorry for the non-vegan reference, only for that.

Ok, ok. Let’s let the games settle this. Imma have a personal moratorium on talking shit ’bout CONCACAF teams before the last group matchday. My personal plea: please be competent, México. Make a dent, Canada. Youse co-hosting a Mundial in two years. Get in gear.

Predicción: Argentina gets to the knockouts, but not on a cakewalk. Sometime in July, Messi will look middle aged, causing AppleTV to change the focus of its projected slobberfest documentary, scrapping Messi’s ethereal skills and otherwordly competitiveness to packaging a Lion In Winter narrative with a lot of “Quixotic” thrown around, lest anyone thinks “It’s gotta have more clichés. That’s Overexposure 101!”.

And OF COURSE I’ll be rooting for Canada today because I refuse to believe we live in a dimension when La Albiceleste is run efficiently and has consistent success, instead of the usual player mutinies and managers who depend on the advice / blackmail by hooligans from their hometown teams or folks with lesser integrity. If Argentina wins its 16th Copa América next month, we are truly in the upside down, people.

Fuck. That shit. Uruguay wins this one, and becomes the top winner of Copa Américas with 16. Besides, there are delights as few and pure as when the Argentina Men’s National Team loses. The fans become all about injustice, victims of shocking malfeasance, and that’s without mentioning the DeyH8Us vocal contingent who get all Argentina is envied because of its greatness while fielding an all-white team which none of the world fútbol powers, now filled with countries and ethnics who can barely understand the game and have the same voting power as Argentina on the FIFA council—

Simply delish. ¡Vamos Canadá!

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yeah right

Just watched the entire Padres Brewers game and the Padres walked it off in the bottom of the ninth.

It was, dare I say…

ROCKINNNGGG!

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Fuck, I really need to start packing

Doktor Zymm

Just buy new clothes when you get there

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

[packs bowl]

Mr. Ayo

Dude, the flight isn’t until tomorrow. Start that around 2 hours before departure time.

ballsofsteelandfury

Narrator voice: México was not competent

Senor Weaselo

So I didn’t get to talk about last night’s whatever show. Live birds in cages! Super long speeches! Senor nailing a solo in a terrible key at almost 1 AM! Little kids dressed up as the Village People ready to sing their hit song, YMHA!

Okay, only the last clause was made up.

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rockingdog

Also just got finished watching season 3 of The Boys

It’s kinda Rocking!

2Pack

Don T cracks me up. Splendid writing as usual Sir. Sadly our Canadian and Italian sides had bad nights. Oh well. We always have Debbie.

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Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Aside from forgetting to turn it on immediately after halftime, the force field that Canadian scientists developed for their goal appears to be working quite well.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Ahem, “fource”. Sourry about that.

ArmedandHammered

I suck now so let me pretend to be hurt. L. Messi

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

No ouffense to Canada or Argentina, but this is some terrible, terrible fútbol.

Dunstan

Is Gary Bettman in charge of these referees?

ArmedandHammered

I am starting to doubt their impartiality.

Doktor Zymm

With Argentina’s high rate of inflation, the value of their goals drops by 20% every half hour

ArmedandHammered

Ana may be pretty but eloquent she is not.

King Hippo

Confession TIme – Hippo took #4thPill anyway

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

If nothing else, Canada can point to that miraculous stifling of Messi as a moral victory.

Mr. Ayo

Messi officially washed

King Hippo

first clue was “signed with MLS”

ArmedandHammered

Fuck you Messi

LemonJello

After this match, I say they strap on the skates and play a hockey game.

King Hippo

Drill Baby Drill

Dunstan

Sorry everyone, it’s my fault. I turned on my TV just before Argentina scored.

King Hippo

y’all need to make a soccer point now. Preferably two.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Same here – I’ll share half the blaoume.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

My restraint is unmatched. I have watched zero soccer today.

litre_cola

Pro tip. Bring your kid to the pub as a baby so that when he is 7 he is comfortable when it is over capacity.

King Hippo

plus, he’s tall enough to drive hoUme

LemonJello

Hippo gets the stink-eye from Lowratio for that comment.

scotchnaut

Wifey Update:

She had a hernia surgery at a place that does nothing but since 1945. (seriously, this place is world-renowned and she met folks from BC, Cali and Bulgaria(!)) She’s hobbling about but she’ll be fine. Thanks so much for your good wishes regarding me doing a shit-ton of driving back and forth. Seriously, I woke up at 4am on Monday and picked her up and drove back home the same day and it took 14 hours. All she did was sit in the passenger seat and complain.*

*the painkillers were in the backseat and it’s not like I was going to stop for something other than gas

SonOfSpam

Glad to hear she’s doing well and no longer stabbing herself!

Doktor Zymm

It’s not Shouldice by any chance? There’s a business school case about them that I graded many a time

scotchnaut

That’s the one.

Game Time Decision

I’ve been there to visit a friend having surgery, tis less than an hour drive for me

SonOfSpam

*loouking

King Hippo

**was looUking

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Ugh I still haven’t packed for tomorrow’s flight. I’m sure grabbing a drink won’t interfere with all the things I have to do tonight.

SonOfSpam

(tomorrow afternoon)

BFC: “Why did I pack a cactus and 3 sparkplugs?”

(looks around)

BFC: “Why am I in a gender-transition-while-u-wait clinic in Cyprus?”

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Like I have sparkplugs

ArmedandHammered

Hence yout surprise.

King Hippo

If Messi dies on the pitch, I will award myself a bonus pill. Y’all let Hippo know.

SonOfSpam

I did see Kyle Rittenhouse in the stands, so it’s possible!

(j/k he’s in a lean-to jerkin it to a Don Jr video)

BrettFavresColonoscopy

National Guard fucked up at Kent State AGAIN

rockingdog

Found a funny:

(Around campfire) My grandfather flew a review bomber in the Culture War.

King Hippo

grandpa, tell me again about the time you pwned that libtard

Mr. Ayo

RIP Messi in advance

yeah right

Fucking grind of a day BUT….

I just fully paid for and renewed the Sunday Ticket!

That’s a damn good thing

Gumbygirl

I guess I should try to get it again. Hopefully they fixed whatever the problem was that wouldn’t let me from my phone. I’m not buying a new computer just to get it.

Game Time Decision

Pride night here. Kinda like this version of the jerseys. Looking forward to the ignorant comments from the degens here

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blaxabbath

What? Are these guys afraid to say Gay? Where’s the fully rainbowed-out jersey? Where are the sequin numbers?

I seen these jerseys and the first thing I think is, “I could a bang a chick wearing that.”

SonOfSpam

The players will blow each other after the game, but that’s normal lacrosse bro stuff.

Game Time Decision

Game update, and spoiler, not that anyone cares, but they lost in OT

WCS

Good jorb, good effort.

SonOfSpam

Alright, watched a half-inning of the special baseball game at Birmingham, and I am now unracist. Italians excepted, natch.

King Hippo

#BFIB are the home side, because we are Blacker obvs. We even called up a Black guy to be our 27th man.

SonOfSpam

And your SP is an Anteater, so I can’t hate him. Rules are rules.

King Hippo

zoot zoot!!

SonOfSpam

Only one “o”

Like Mrs Shapiro’s sex history. (the one time in college she experimented with her roommate)

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

“Oh, *that’s* what she meant when she said she was a ‘technical’ virgin.” – Ben Shapiro

SonOfSpam

Very cromulent preview. That Millel is a crazy motherfucker and I hope he welcomes the entire Trump clan as defectors. (because Nazis usually end up around those parts anyway)

ballsofsteelandfury

Also, who the fuck doesn’t like Maradona???

King Hippo

I don’t like anyone.

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King Hippo

look, one can either have a robust cocaine habit, or one can pay one’s taxes. Es muy dificil to do BOTH.

scotchnaut

Reporters ducking pellets from his BB gun?

SonOfSpam

Unpaid coke dealers?

ballsofsteelandfury

Btw, ALL you need to know about Milei is “former youth goalkeeper”. That says it all.

All goalkeepers are off.

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ballsofsteelandfury

The US equivalent, of course, is the high school kick returner. The craziest motherfucker I ever knew, the guy that would take on all dares, the daredevil that made ramps to jump his bike off of, the guy who tried all the extreme sports, the guy who tried EVERYTHING, that guy was our high school kick returner.

It takes a special breed…

King Hippo

yeah, special teams (especially before the last 5-10 years) is basically a death wish.

ballsofsteelandfury

Pats Schadenfreude Day pales in comparison to Argentina Schadenfreude Day every World Cup, Copa América, or any other major tournament.

It’s overdue.

scotchnaut

The lazy guy that had yet another long day today (that’s three out of four this week, boo-hoo, right?) thinks that this should double as the nighty open thread. Because Canada/Argentina in 30 minutes. Who’s with me?

[scattered applause from the mob]

King Hippo

es appropriato

scotchnaut

Just throw some deodorant on. Maybe toss some warm water on your balls and you’ll be ready to go-go-go!

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King Hippo

I’m afraid the incompetence of Jesse MarschYank Lampard (h/t, Leeds supporters, the funniest fuckers in Europe – at least online) and the constant Messi ball gargling will be too much for me. I’mma read a booky-cook instead.

scotchnaut

The mute button is my friend.*

*and lover**

**I’ve said too much

King Hippo

Long stretches of summer weather without a thunderstorm? Just get a brutha down. Like living in a swampy desert.

At least I know that Scott Hanson is likely starting his pre-season cocaine buildup…

Sharkbait

This Italian keeper must be a fascist because he’s being hung out to dry

WCS

“….”

— Benito and Clara M., current parts unknown

King Hippo

Alexi Lalas (rightly) draws most of the hate. But what exactly does Landon Donovan bring to the broadcasts? I’ve taken shits with more personality and insight than that motherfucker.

King Hippo

ayyyyyy, I’m own goaling over here!

King Hippo

Thank you for the excellent reminder that the whole goddamned world has gone mad. It is not limited to Norteamericano or Europe.

WCS

It’s time to find another planet or suitable moon. We need a new world to ruin.

King Hippo
ballsofsteelandfury

It’s not that the world has gone mad. It’s that politicians are too greedy and people are so fed up they will elect ANYONE but an entrenched politician.

It’s like the Mafia. As long as everyone gets their cut, everything is fine. People get cut out, shit starts.

BugEyedBoo

My $0.02 is that there might have been news, when there were three channels in your TV. Back then it was a cost center, now it’s a source of income. So news is now what draws eyeballs, not an objective or consensual collection of facts.

Senor Weaselo

Who is even more greedy!

BrettFavresColonoscopy

So there are euros and euro conquested matches today? This is officially too much fútbol.

King Hippo

apostate

scotchnaut

Too much futbol when there is literally* nothing else on? What?

*not literally, literally

Sharkbait

This one still stings

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