Your “Time Wounds All Heels” Thursday Evening Open Thread

NFL Notes:

  • Can you believe “Hard Knocks” has been around 16 years? 
    • This year’s candidates include the Cowboys, Giants & Jags.
      • Teams with a first-year head coach aren’t supposed to be considered, but the combination of Urban Meyer & Trevor Lawrence makes them an attractive selection.
        • Also, the Khans are desperate for respectable attention.
  • Your QB news round-up: 
    • Florio is desperate to make up a story, as he recounts an Athletic story about a tempestuous meeting from November between Russell Wilson & the offensive coaching staff.
      • “[I]t’s not a question of if but when the two sides go their separate ways.”
      • If it does come to pass, Wilson apparently has a four-team list that he’d drop his no-trade clause for:
        • Cowboys, Saints, Raiders and Bears.
          • These require specific circumstances to evolve on each team before anything becomes serious.
    • Art Rooney wants Ben under center in 2021.
      • “Ben assured me that he is committed to coming back to help us win, and I told Ben that we would like to have him back to help us win a championship.”
    • As usual, the Raiders waited too long – no one wants to trade for Marcus Mariota.
      • The sticking point is his contract: a $10 million sign, plus incentives worth up to $12 million, making him a very expensive backup.
      • If they cut him, the Raiders save $11.35 million with no cap penalty.

To their credit, nfl.com has a very good long-form piece questioning whether race is still a factor for black quarterbacks.

Marlin Briscoe
  • The answer is” yes, but…”
    • The best synopsis comes from – of all people – Tony Dungy:
      • “Rather than say, ‘Tony Dungy, your skill set doesn’t fit us,’ or, ‘Warren Moon, your skill set doesn’t fit us,’ it is, ‘No, I’m going to change my offense to fit Kyler Murray,’ ” Dungy said. “Or, ‘I’m going to take Russell Wilson and adjust my offense around him.’ That’s good coaching, and that’s what we’re doing now.”
  • When you still have old school guys like Bill Polian, however, who think Lamar Jackson should have been converted to Wide Receiver ‘because of his athleticism’, it goes to a deeper bias present in modern sports.
    • Plus, the previous draft year – 2017 – was the year that two of the three quarterbacks selected in the first round were Black.
      • Both Patrick Mahomes (10th overall) and Deshaun Watson (12th) were taken after Mitchell Trubisky (second), whom the Bears traded up from third to get.
  • Marlin Briscoe, the first black player to start an NFL game at QB, only got to do so because the Broncos starter in 1968, Steve Tensi, broke his collarbone.
    • When drafted out of Nebraska in 1968, Briscoe was converted from QB to Cornerback.
    • He started five games in 1968, and was traded to Buffalo in 1969 when he agitated to challenge for the starting job.
      • Buffalo had Jack Kemp, so it was clearly a “fuck you” trade, and Briscoe accepted conversion to Wide Receiver.
    • He won two Super Bowls with the Dolphins.
  • I’ll end by tying Polian’s bias into this statement from the article from one of the greatest QBs I ever got to see play live:
    • “We’ve reached a point with the masses where race isn’t as big an issue, but there are people who are very uncomfortable with the fact that their quarterback is African American and making all this money and being endorsed the way they’re being endorsed,” said Warren Moon.
      • “There’s always going to be that certain percentage of our population that feels that way.”


Tonight’s sports:

  • NHL: as usual, all Canadian games are regional broadcasts only.
    • Boston vs NY Islanders – 7:00pm | Sportsnet
    • Nashville vs Detroit – 7:30pm | NHLN
  • NBA:
    • Dallas vs Philadelphia – 7:00pm | TNT / Sportsnet1
    • New Orleans vs Milwaukee – 9:30pm | TNT / Sportsnet1
  • NCAA:
    • Iowa at Michigan – 7:00pm | ESPN
    • WKU at Houston – 7:00pm | ESPN2
    • Washington at Arizona State – 7:00pm | FS1
    • Ohio State at Michigan State – 9:00pm | ESPN2/U
    • Oregon at Stanford 9:00pm – | ESPN2
    • Boise State at San Diego State – 9:00pm | FS1
    • USC at Colorado 9:00pm – | ESPNU/2
    • Pacific at Saint Mary’s 11:00pm – | ESPN2
    • Washington State at Arizona – 11:00pm | FS1
  • Curling:
    • Scotties Tournament of Hearts – 8:30PM | TSN

Have a delightful evening.

 

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A Canadian man-child of indeterminate age, he stays young by selling alcohol at sporting events and yelling at the patrons he serves. Their rage nourishes his soul, and their tips pay for his numerous trips to various sporting events.
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ballsofsteelandfury

I got 36 points in the Scotties pool! What did you guys get?

BC Dick

I’m at 51. Make sure to put your picks in for the championship pool. Weird format this year with no page playoffs.

ballsofsteelandfury

Just did. The rest of you guys are kicking my ass. There’s an entry called “Brick’s picks” and I wonder if that’s our Brick. It has 54…

ballsofsteelandfury

My favourite entry name is “TitsR4Kids”

Mr. Ayo

I got 43!

Not bad for randomly clicking I think.

Game Time Decision

I’ve got 53 points, woooooooooooooooohoooooooooo

Brocky

also, balls, great minds eh? even the gifs are synced!
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ballsofsteelandfury

Right?

Brocky

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Brocky

and it doesn’t have sound….., lemme trybsomething else

ballsofsteelandfury

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ballsofsteelandfury

I did a thing!

Brocky

i finished a minute earlier..

…wait….

ballsofsteelandfury
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-4sJnhBYZE/
ballsofsteelandfury

That didn’t do shit..

ballsofsteelandfury

How did you do that???

Brocky

reddit introduced a new automatic site for NSFW tagged links to gfycat, luckily it embeds. not if I can just find the original

Brocky

okay, reddits replacement for gfycat works, but unfortunately this isn’t the original video.

NOT THAT I HAVE HIGH STANDARDS OR ANYTHING I KNOW FULL WELL I LOOK LIKE MOE SYZSLAK COMPARED TO THESE LADIES

Viva La Tabula Raza

Better than looking like Simpsons Comic Book guy?

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

The Dr. Mrs. is watching Ginny and Georgia. She told me I could go upstairs if I’m not interested in watching, so why am I still here?

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

The daughter is having a bad day so now they’re having a living room dance party to country music.

Doktor Zymm

I have no idea what that is, should I?

Brocky

also, in “honor” of my dad hitting the big six-0 yesterday, i thought of a joke:

you used to worry about being a grandfather before age fifty…..

now you’re worried you won’t be a grandfather before age seventy!

Viva La Tabula Raza

I’m almost two years older than your dad.
*Chambers round in Colt 1911*

Brocky

and are you a grandfather?

Viva La Tabula Raza

Not even a father, at least not that I’ve been accused of. I’m going to die old and lonely.

Brocky

also, that means you have a birthday coming up?

Viva La Tabula Raza

Not until July

yeah right

I’m a grandfather 3 times over before the age of 60 and it’s fantastic!

I only wish I could see them and hug them and tell them that everything is going to be soooo fucked when they get older.

Then I’m going to run off to Europe to retire and spend all of their inheritance.

They understand me.

Brocky

so i guess its time to end my annual “thing where brocky dissapears for weeks after the super bowl because he’s tired and may be suffering from seasonal affective disorder (IE Winter blues caused by lack of sunlight)ii,I can or or of gg of y

let me make it up to ya.

early last year in the quarantine, a tik tok “challenge” was making the rounds, called the “don’t rush” challenge, where a user would be presented with a makeup brush or similar item, they would then obscure the camera, and rreveal a dramatic change in appearance, then dropping said item off screen to allow another user to continue the trend. usually it would feature women in a state of homely dress and sans makeup, then transforming in a goddess ready for a night on the town…

the reason I bring this up? well some fine instagram ladies gave us a “lingerie edition”, users are tagged

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-4sJnhBYZE/

ballsofsteelandfury

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Brocky

youre welcome

Brocky

also, is there a trick to embed instagram? wheres unsurprised when you need him?

here’s a YouTube link, with the users apparently cropped”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW3r_-yeONE&feature=youtu.be

Brocky

ah fuck you YouTube, no one gives a shit about your age restrictions

ballsofsteelandfury

Darn. I tried to verify so it would be visible. It’s a great video.

ballsofsteelandfury

That’s a good damn, btw. Wow.

Don T

I’ve done so much administrative work this year, I may be mistaken for a native of Billings, Montana.
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Don T

And, yeah. Not having a boss doth stir right-wing thoughts.

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Doktor Zymm

As long as you aren’t mistaken for one of the three residents of “Wyoming” as they’re all imaginary and two of them are antivaxx

Viva La Tabula Raza

The other one is Liz Cheney?

Mr. Ayo

As an actual native of said town, I don’t get it.

Don T

I bet Billings is nicer than indigence.

Doktor Zymm

So, Civ recently introduced Vietnam, and they’re an amazingly fun civ to play, but their capital city is Thang Long, and my sense of humor is such that I keep thinking “but it’s girth that really counts!”comment image?itok=YM8pNdCS

Sharkbait

I’ll bet the French can take that civ over easy.

ballsofsteelandfury

How many bakeries can you have?

Viva La Tabula Raza

As long as they have an unlimited supply of surplus US military equipment provided to them by President Eisenhower.
What, that didn’t work out?
Hold my beer! —JFK

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Sharkbait

TL;DR of Ken Burns’ Vietnam: Hey, nothing has worked. Let’s double down and add more troops!

Viva La Tabula Raza

It’s weird, the Vietnam War is a lot “closer” in my experience than just TV documentaries. My dad was with the 1st Mobile Comms Squadron, stationed at Clark AB in the Philippines, 1964-66. Me and my mom were living there, while dad would deploy for 90 days at a time from Clark to the various air bases that the US was setting up in Thailand and VN to organize and set up comms in those years. I did kindergarten and 1st grade there in the PI. The base hospital at Clark was one of the first stops for wounded troops when they got med-evaced from Viet Nam. I remember I had to go to the ER there once when I got bit by a rodent, and getting kind of freaked out by seeing these wounded troops missing limbs and/or having yards of stitches where they had been wounded. Pretty eye opening experience for a 6 year old. Also, the old man has some pretty interesting stories about his experiences over on the mainland in Thailand, Laos, and VN. Some of them are pretty funny, actually.

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Viva La Tabula Raza

I guess because of my early “involvement” in the war, as it were, I followed events pretty closely even after we returned to the states. Watching stuff like the Ken Burns show, I’m more like “Yeah, I remember that happening” than “no shit, that actually happened?!?” From Tet to My Lai to Nixon ordering the Christmas bombing to the mining of Haiphong Harbor to the Mayaguez to the release of the POWs to the helos evacuating the embassy, I was fucking paying attention. Even as a kid.

bk109

Same^… but with the US bombings of Yugoslavia in ’99, when I also learned a really important lesson – “precision guided munitions” only really exist in the glossy brochures : (and for the record, that was like a couple of houses away from one of my grandparents’ )

Viva La Tabula Raza

I was TDY at Aviano in early 99, maybe I saw the plane or planes that bombed your gran’s neighborhood.

bk109

Small correction, with the “plane or planes that didn’t aim juuuuuuust a bit more wide and hit our Parliament (and/or one of the other Governmental buildings)”… we’d have made those guys’ a bloody monument – the idiots in power at the time literally made a monument for the USAAF personnel that was lost bombing Bulgaria in WW2 in a bid to prove how “cool everyone was with NATO now” 😀
Edit: Also, for the record – an airstrike on Parliament would’ve been considered a good thing (we’re weird like that… just like for the longest time there was an attempt to make a monument to the “Unknown Assassin” that took care of a lot of the first and second gen mafia after ’89 😀 )

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Brocky

yesterday i gave my dad a steam card for his birthday, earlier he called me asking what the differences between the editions were. he played the crap out of civilization II back in the day.

i told him, its like madden, they just update everything at once, but with better cut scenes

ballsofsteelandfury

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litre_cola

Merci.

ballsofsteelandfury

I would disappoint her so quickly it’s not even funny.

Doktor Zymm

Maybe kinda funny, if it ended up in a well written sitcom

litre_cola

If he was in Quebec he would need his huge blue parka. It would then knock things over and hilarity would ensue.

Doktor Zymm

ZUT ALORS!!comment image

ballsofsteelandfury

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Bon soir, mademoiselle! Est-que je peut vous décevoir très rapidement?

Col. Duke LaCross

Sweet jeezus.

Viva La Tabula Raza

Looks too much like Ivanka. Sorry.

Viva La Tabula Raza

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Viva La Tabula Raza

I can’t see a Jared jewelry commercial without thinking of the Petrified Penis son-in-law of the former president. That company needs to consider a name change.

Dunstan

“It’s true, that asshole Kushner really ruined the name for the rest of us.” — Jared Fogle

Don T

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Viva La Tabula Raza

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Viva La Tabula Raza

Top gear did it in the LA River, now NASA’s doing it on Mars.comment image?itok=jfpr5qxi
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/weird/has-nasa-been-watching-top-gear

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I’m about to have a Manhattan. It was BFC’s idea.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

I’ve had much worse ideas

Sharkbait

Mrs. Sharkbait and I made drinks (I made the drinks) and we sat in our living room, dimmed the lights and pretended we were in a bar earlier tonight. http://www.imissmybar.com/

Doktor Zymm

I hope she tipped you at least a dollar a drink

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Just the tip?

herodotus450

not as good as imissmyinanimatecarbonrodmarinelli.com though smdhd

scotchnaut

Best David Bowie Cover-I’m going with Nick Lowe’s “I Love The Sound of Breaking Glass”. Have at it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDbUEydkuR8&ab_channel=YepRocRecords

Warthog
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scotchnaut

Kurt Russell’s cover of Bowie’s “The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes” is way better than that tune.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32g-9Jbwlc4&ab_channel=DisneyPlus

Doktor Zymm

I miss the 90s heroin chic thing, even with Cobain copping it the whole thing managed to be way less depressing than the recent opioid epidemic. And how have we not gotten any great music from all the current opioid use? Are Oxy and Fentanyl really so different from heroin that it fucks up all musical talent?

Viva La Tabula Raza

I blame Autotune.

litre_cola
scotchnaut

“Oops, we did again.”

-The Senators, scoring yet another goal

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly
Viva La Tabula Raza

Would it be too cliche if Gym Jordan was next?

BrettFavresColonoscopy

A second cigar with another manhattan is a very good bad idea

scotchnaut

I’ve poured a third scotch-I’ll be doing the bare minimum tomorrow and kicking ass Monday morning!*

*subject to the amount of alcohol I will be drinking all day Sunday

Viva La Tabula Raza

Hey, you’re me!

Sharkbait

I have a half day tomorrow. I plan on more tasty beverages this evening

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I don’t suppose Moose is lurking, but if he is I hope he knows I miss him.
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scotchnaut
BrettFavresColonoscopy

This guy and i miss him too
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Viva La Tabula Raza

Shane, Moose, come back!!!

ArmedandHammered

Please! It is not the same without you!

Don T

We miss him a lot. By which I mean me and my phone. It has a Moose Wing. A sample:
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Brocky

yes MOOSE WE LOVE AND MISS YOU!!!

litre_cola

Ice REDBLACKS taking it to Ice Stamps. It’s been verrry one sided.

scotchnaut

Me like!

scotchnaut

Found this new-ish tune recently and I like. I hear the influence of Sonic Youth and Dinosaur Jr. Do you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PuqlOTyJt0&ab_channel=4AD

litre_cola

Just listened to it, very much Dinosaur Jr guitars. Sonic youth type vocals.

I like it.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

How funny; I haven’t listened to Dinosaur Jr. in ages but just this morning I was about to cut up some chicken so I put on “Start Choppin'”.

litre_cola

Great album. Superb even.

Fronkenshteen
Viva La Tabula Raza

Tom Petty’s bassist Howie Epstein caught her on the rebound after she and Lowe got divorced, they were together for most of the late 90s. He even produced one of her albums. Don’t know if she joined him in the heroin addiction that eventually killed him.

Fronkenshteen
Viva La Tabula Raza

Saw Nick Lowe at Antone’s in Austin back in 2018. Backing band was Los Straitjackets. And yes, they did play “What’s So Funny About etc etc.”

litre_cola

Evenin. Ice bombers vs Ice Alouettes avec un nouveau entraineur! Also Battle of dickhead Tkachuk bros!

Game Time Decision

New coaching staff for the ice Als.

scotchnaut

I’d despise Brady Tkachuk if he was on another team but he’s my asshole. He also gets bonus points for this-his response to a teammate saying that the first person he texted after finding out that he made the team was his girlfriend-head to 20 seconds in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srCjEjd37xU&ab_channel=SensProspects

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rockingdog

found a funny:

chumbawumba: i get knocked down!

me: wow man i can relate to that

chumbawumba: and i get up again!

me: okay you lost me

Viva La Tabula Raza

Move on to next verse.
He drinks a Whiskey drink, he drinks a Vodka drink

Horatio Cornblower

It’s not that Polian’s racist, it’s just that he has a very specific idea of what a quarterback looks like:
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scotchnaut

The kind of qb that you can set your sundial to.

Game Time Decision

Let’s not go crazy with your new technology
-Joe Flacco

/auto correct wanted to change Flacco to Flaccid….lol, fitting

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Viva La Tabula Raza

I lived at Ft Meade MD during the late 60s, and had an irrational hatred of the Colts and Unitas. I was over the moon when the Jets beat the Colts in SBIII.

scotchnaut

Way back in the day I happened to watch Warren Moon in the Rose Bowl in his senior year. He was so amazing that I thought he would be starting in the NFL the following year as a rook. When I found out that he ended up in the CFL I thought to myself, “he’s going to tear this league apart!”. He did that and then some.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

He tore that league apart like a certain interloper tore apart a local hobo’s throat!

Viva La Tabula Raza

M-O-O-N, that spells “hobo.”

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Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

No it doesn’t, it spells “$GME”.

Viva La Tabula Raza

Only in the unabridged edition.

Viva La Tabula Raza

“…there are people who are very uncomfortable with the fact that their quarterback is African American and making all this money and being endorsed the way they’re being endorsed,” said Warren Moon. “There’s always going to be that certain percentage of our population that feels that way.”

Today, they are called “Trump voters.”

herodotus450

Time was they were called “Bush voters.” And before that, “Reagan voters.” Hmm I see a pattern forming… all voters are racist!

Viva La Tabula Raza

I’m still scratching my ahead about that pattern.

Warthog

I think all of those elections were leap years. Maybe it has something to do with February 29.

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Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

The good news is that that percentage is decreasing. It ashames me to admit that as a kid I bought into the “Randall Cunningham will never win a Super Bowl because…” coded racist narratives. But I wised up, and there are fewer and fewer fans growing up who are exposed to the same kind of prejudices that dominated when I was young.

Viva La Tabula Raza

I remember that Spike Jonze conversation with Ice Cube about Randall Cunningham in Three Kings. Doug Williams!

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Randall Cunningham > literally every other Bears QB

(Except Sid Luckman so i don’t get kicked out of the tribe)

Viva La Tabula Raza

Plus he brings his own cereal to the table.