Your “Everybody Thinks They’re An Expert Now” Monday Evening Open Thread

Sports Nuggets:

  • Fun times for the NCAA today, as SCOTUS ruled 9-0 against them in enforcing certain rules limiting the education-related benefits.
    • The Supreme Court upheld previous rulings on the “NCAA v. Alston” case, which states that the organization “can no longer bar colleges from providing athletes with education-related benefits such as free laptops or paid post-graduate internships,”
      • It violated the Sherman Act, in that the restriction on non-cash benefits was an impediment on the provision of the education they were promised.
      • Before the lawsuit, schools were allowed to provide tuition and fees, room and board, books and other expenses related to the cost of attendance.
        • They are permitted to make payments for certain athletic participation awards, tutoring and study abroad expenses related to a course.
        • There was a cap in place of $5000.
    • It also means that the NCAA will have to stop getting rich off the athletes compensated with “free tuition”.
      • In 2016, for example, the NCAA negotiated an eight-year extension of its broadcasting rights to March Madness, worth $1.1 billion annually.
    • Justice Kavanaugh wrote a separate opinion aimed at underscoring the fact that, beyond the rules at issue in the current case, “the NCAA’s remaining compensation rules also raise serious questions under the antitrust laws.”
      • “The NCAA’s business model would be flatly illegal in almost any other industry in America. [For example, a]ll of the restaurants in a region cannot come together to cut cooks’ wages on the theory that ‘customers prefer’ to eat food from low-paid cooks.”
    • As a result of the ruling, the NCAA itself can’t bar schools from sweetening their offers to Division I basketball and football players with additional education-related benefits.
      • But individual athletic conferences can still set limits if they choose.
    • According to The Athletic contributor & law professor Alicia Jessop, this means three things going forward: (“NIL” stands for Name-Image-Likeness, which was pioneered in the O’Bannon v. NCAA case)

  • Dr. Cole Beasley has weighed in on what “you people” think about “his” decision.
    • I’ll embed the screed tweet below, but suffice to say he is not getting the vaccine, and fuck you for your shitty attitude.
      • “I’m not going to take meds for a leg that isn’t broken. I’d rather take my chances with Covid and build up my immunity that way. … I’ll play for free this year to live life how I’ve lived it from day one. If I’m forced into retirement, so be it.”

https://twitter.com/Bease11/status/1405971914607239172

  • Eli’s back with the Giants!
    • Parroting most of the hyperbolic headlines, he’s rejoined the team in a business operations and fan engagement role
      • He will be collaborating with the Giants on original content development and fan engagement activations, including a new lifestyle series premiering this fall.
      • A “brand ambassador”, as Vince McMahon would call him.
    • They will also be retiring his jersey this season.
      • It’ll be Week 3, when the Falcons pay the Meadowlands a visit.
        • He has earned it, playing in 236 regular-season games with the Giants & making four Pro Bowls, winning two Super Bowls, and owning almost every franchise passing record. (Suck it, Phil Simms!)

So, it looks like the Giants are proud of more than one thing today.


Tonight’s sports:

  • NHL:
    • NY Islanders at Tampa Bay – 8:00pm | NBCSN / CBC / Sportsnet
  • NBA:
    • no game tonight
  • MLB:
    • Houston at Baltimore – 7:05pm | MLBN
    • LA Dodgers at San Diego – 10:00pm | ESPN / TSN2
  • Futbol:
    • Argentina vs. Paraguay – 8:00pm | FS1 / TSN3
  • US Olympic trials
    • Track & Field – 8:00pm | NBC
  •  WWE:
    • Monday Night Raw – 8:00pm | USA / Sportsnet360
      • The build to SummerSlam begins.
        • It’s being held at the Raiders’ stadium in Vegas. They’ve apparently sold 38,000 tickets already, and TicketMaster lists the event’s capacity at 41,661.
          • It’s going to be used as a test for full-capacity Raiders games in the fall.

That’s a pretty good sports menu for the evening.

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A Canadian man-child of indeterminate age, he stays young by selling alcohol at sporting events and yelling at the patrons he serves. Their rage nourishes his soul, and their tips pay for his numerous trips to various sporting events.
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Brick Meathook

“I remember when this here website used to have some interesting late night conversation” said the very old man.

Gumbygirl

Goodnight!

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Brick Meathook
Brick Meathook

Whenever I get sad, I watch this movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6c0tRqkq-8

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Movers come in a few days so i HAVE to drink this beer.

Doktor Zymm

Life is rough like that sometimes. Godspeed!

Brick Meathook

Where ya moving to?

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Unclear

Brick Meathook

What does that mean?

BrettFavresColonoscopy

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Brick Meathook

OK. Come for a drink at the Harbor Room soon.

Brick Meathook

The most Canadien of Canadian gas stations
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Gumbygirl

Who are they calling a couchetard, Tim Horton?

Redshirt

The Reds offense giveth. The Reds’ bullpen taketh away.

Brick Meathook

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Mr. Ayo

Kittehs!!1!1!!

Gumbygirl

And tailfins!

ballsofsteelandfury

Question: In this day and age, do you think a song like this could get released and become as popular as it was in the 80s?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrRmgbchiGY

Doktor Zymm

I don’t see why not

Brick Meathook
King Hippo

ah refuse to believe Soft Cell had a 2nd song

Gumbygirl

Your memory is tainted, love!

Doktor Zymm

I’m glad I’m not one of Cole Beasley’s relatives, that ‘days are numbered’ stuff sounds a lot like a threat. Although I guess the vaguely threatening tone and poor grammar is very much on-brand with the overall message.

For the NCAA, I think it would be pretty excellent to require schools to maintain at least a minimum graduation rate for their student athletes. After all, if you’re providing something insubstantial like education as compensation, then you should have some way of proving the value of what you’re providing. A degree has tangible value in a way that what they provide today does not.

Gumbygirl

The real reason the NCAA has women’s sports- they bring the athletic gpa waaaay up. Helps hide some of the dumb bunny football and basketball “scholar-athletes.”

ballsofsteelandfury

Absolute truth. They should make it a Title IX rule that Women’s GPA cannot be included in those calculations.

Doktor Zymm

Or at least provide the breakdowns by sport, gender, race, etc. Summary data hides a multitude of sins

Brick Meathook

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Doktor Zymm

Good doggie!

Brick Meathook

According to his official discharge papers, “Jack the puppy (brindle)” was born in Alexandria VA and served from 1862 to 1865 as a “watchman” for Battery H of the Independent Pennsylvania Light Artillery, who occupied Alexandria as part of the defenses of Washington DC by the Union Army during the U.S. Civil War. Jack was listed as four years old at the time of his discharge.

Jack is on the right.

Brocky

So, would it bad taste to segue the news about Nassib into sexy Friday discussions?

Gruden: so how about this?

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Carl: No

Gruden: this?

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Carl: nope

Gruden: this?

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Carl: Nada

ballsofsteelandfury

Oh Fuck Yeah!

Redshirt

Joey Votto surprises young Reds fan who was in tears after his first-inning ejection – CBSSports.com

Good for Joey Votto. He wouldn’t need to do this if he didn’t have a temper tantrum when BLEERGH messes up, but still good for him anyway.

SonOfSpam

Howzabout Carl Nassib, the newest featured personality in “That’s my Gayders!”

For what it’s worth, good for him and it’s about time, and now that the franchise is in Las Vegas he has far more entertainment options than he did in Oakland.
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King Hippo

I guarantee you that Chucky has already started calling him “Carla” behind closed doors.

His teammates will have no problem with it, and respect him for being his true, whole self. Very generational.

Gumbygirl

Richie Incognito plays for them.

King Hippo

ok, his teammates minus one!

litre_cola

He is just compensating.

SonOfSpam

“I am in awe of how it’s a brand new day for him. Hmm…the Brand New.”comment image

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgtkPKZ2OPk

Don T

“I knew he was gay before it was cool”
-R. Incognito

SonOfSpam

“I’m a pioneer. Called him a homo before anyone else did.”

Gumbygirl

” I knew because I’ve been following him around. He didn’t see me because I was…INCOGNITO!!”

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Brocky

Lol I legitimately forgot they had moved to Vegas, my first thought was “a gay player in Oakland? At least he’s in the ideal metropolitan area!”

Redshirt

Simpsons clip 7 “Lovejoy and Flanders” – YouTube

Sports: “An active NFL players has come out of the closet.”
DFO: (crosses fingers) “Brady. Brady. Brady. Brady.”
Sports: “Carl Nassib from the Las Vegas Raiders.”
DFO: “Aw. That’s not a real team.”

King Hippo

No way, I can’t stand the thought of learning anything humanizing about MRSA Dreamboat.

Don T

Bad news for the NCAA. Maybe it’s time for the NCAA to pivot its business ventures into medicinal cocaine.

Redshirt

Judging by all the drug cases I was a part of while serving as a Grand Juror, Oxy is not only surviving, its thriving.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

A check from the IRS showed up today and this was my reaction:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qnBEYNsSlEE

herodotus450

TB on pace to score 27 on the Long Guylanders, they should see if there’s a rule that let’s them forfeit early and go home.
/Assuming TB continues scoring on an exponential trajectory, of course.

Redshirt

I don’t follow hockey. Is there a rule saying the puck needs to constantly be in motion? If not, then they could just stand around until time runs out.

Horatio Cornblower

They outlawed that after Jacques Lemaire and the Devils tried to kill hockey by doing that.

blaxabbath

How’s it almost July and people are still bickering about masks/vaccinations?

Redshirt

Because Conservatism is based on not trusting the government (in itself not overtly wrong), but it has been corrupted and run by the product of a drunken and horny Fred Trump and a rotten orange.

blaxabbath

I’m not arguing with those retards about anything. Even vaccinations at this point.

Redshirt

Smart call. I’ve done the same thing. You can’t fix stupid. Its like the Titanic; you can’t stop the assholes from driving full speed into iceberg-filled waters. The best you can do is save whatever lives you can.

Brocky

Exactly. We crossed the threshold for giving people the benefit of the doubt without even knowing it was there

Sharkbait

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herodotus450

Islanders down 0-2 early, I haven’t seen a group of New Yorkers start this poorly against a group of Europeans since 1777.

Viva La Tabula Raza

Cole Beasley and Jon Stockton should get a room. Maybe they can invite Kirk Cousins or Sam Darnold over for a 3-way.

King Hippo

It’s not gay if its four JESUS suck kit libtards!!!!111

Redshirt

Suddenly, Matthew 25:40 just got very dark and uncomfortable.

Redshirt

Cole Beasley: “I will retire before I get the vaccine! I am a Role Model!”
Me: “As God as my witness, I had to google your name to figure out who you were.”

Horatio Cornblower

“I just want to win a Super Bowl” says that guy who went from Dallas, (badly run, no chance), to Buffalo, (cursed, also no chance)

Wakezilla

As Croatia plays England tomorrow, remember that the only reason why Yugoslavia doesn’t exist today, and why we had the Balkanization of the Balkans occur is because a Serbian farmer got a bottle shoved up his ass, causing a massive Serbian nationalist movement.

ballsofsteelandfury

Umm, you wanna elaborate on that?

herodotus450

It’s called Miloseviching, you’ve never tried?

ballsofsteelandfury

I looked it up. Couldn’t find the bottle in the ass portion of the story…

Wakezilla

I give you, the Đorđe Martinović incident!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%90or%C4%91e_Martinovi%C4%87_incident

ballsofsteelandfury

Well I’ll be…

I love the fact that I can come to this site and learn things in between dick jokes.

Game Time Decision

Feel free to add this to my game intro for tomorrow. You’ve obviously done more research on this than I ever will

herodotus450

Finally. Now my struggling business that sells laptops with $100 bills and hookers stuffed inside them to universities is finally gonna take off!

Redshirt

I’m kind of ashamed to admit that I used to be the guy in the chair explaining what MLK will think about today’s world. Except it was less a white person trying to explain how things are and more of an innocent person with one incredibly dense head whose heart’s in the right place.

Viva La Tabula Raza

Nowadays we are subjected to “a white person trying to explain how things are they wish things were.”

Viva La Tabula Raza

Even if we have to wait a couple years, it would be so much funnier if they retired Eli’s jersey next time a Brady or Belichick team visited the Meadowlands.

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Redshirt

Can you retire a jersey if you are the away team? They do play in Tampa this year…

Viva La Tabula Raza

Cam Newton could have used that SCOTUS ruling a decade and a half ago.

Redshirt

My concern is if this will cause college football to go the way of Major League Baseball with big market teams out spending the other teams. Or worse, other sports folding because they need the money for football.

Dunstan

The big schools already outspend the little schools. They just do it on coaching, facilities, and various other perks.

And as much as MLB takes shit for the importance of money, since 2000, 14 different franchises have won a World Series. Another 8 have at least been to a World Series.

Compare that to college football — over the playoff era, a grand total of 4 schools have won championships. Throw in the BCS era (which goes back to 1998) and you get up to 13, i.e. still less than MLB, despite there being a hell of a lot more Division I football programs than there are MLB teams.

Basically, MLB is a model of parity compared to NCAA football. (Or just about any lesser footy league in the world, from what I understand.)

Redshirt

Correct, but with the exception of the 2003 Marlins, all of the winners’ payrolls have been in the top half of the league, 12 of them have been in the top third.

As a fan of a Mid-Market Team (Cincinnati Reds), they have to draft right to get only get a three or four year window. If they mess up, it sets the franchise back for years. If they do get it right, once the window is closed, they have to trade or let their all stars walk because they can’t afford to resign them. Teams like the Reds are essentially a Quadruple-A Finishing School, giving the future stars a taste of the majors before they move on to the “real franchises”.

Brick Meathook

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ballsofsteelandfury

It’s already happening

herodotus450

MLB arguably has more parity than CFB. When was the last time the equivalent of Tampa, Cleveland, or Arizona sniffed the national championship game?

Redshirt

The University of Notre Dame has been disconnected due to inactivity

Brocky

Reggie Bush wants his trophy back