DRAFT NIGHT OPEN THREAD! (plus Reverend Mayhem’s 2024 Final Mock Draft)

So here we are. Clock is ticking. Mistakes will be made, both happy accidents and career-ending missteps. Christmas Morning for our deviant kind.

Ho ho ho, bitches.

As predicted, whole lotta bullshit spewing from all quarters. Also as predicted, I am not immune to the Draft Brain Slugs that infect the media and GMs alike:

“DRAFT A TIGHT END IN THE TOP 10. THIS TIME IT WILL BE DIFFERENT.”

So while I’m mostly sticking by my guns here, there are some changes. I will note where things diverge from Mock Draft 1: The Motion Picture

1. Chicago Bears (from Carolina): Caleb Williams (Quarterback, USC)

Would it be both hilarious and on-brand for the Bears to draft JJ McCarthy? Yes, and only the fact that it is literally impossible for them to trade up further to do so keeps it from being Perfect. Alas, even a blind squirrel may find the occasional nut. The question then becomes whether they know which end to stick it in.

2. Washington Commanders: Drake Maye (Quarterback, U*NC)

3. New England Patriots: Jayden Daniels (Quarterback, LSU)

I’m sticking with this, in the face of a YUUUGE amount of smoke about 1. Washington coordinator Kliff Kingsbury preferring more mobile quarterbacks like Daniels, and 2. New England being “open for business” in the words of their de facto Draft Czar Eliot Wolf, and speculation that they may trade down for McCarthy (or take him outright at 3).

First: Dan Quinn strikes me as a “the best ability is availability” meathead, and I think Daniels’ reckless running style scares him and GM Adam Peters.

Second: Wolf knows his business. From ages 9 to 35, he was raised in an environment where quarterback talent and stability were the first and last words in team success. Since then, his teams have lived and (more often) died on inconsistent quarterback play. Let no one fool you: McCarthy is more of a project than the media suggests, and there’s no Brett Favre or Aaron Rodgers for him to sit behind for two years while he seasons. Bob Kraft may have this great reputation as a patient owner, but it’s not a situation he’s had to deal with much since he bought the team 30 years ago  When he did, he fired Pete Carroll the first season Carroll didn’t make the playoffs. He’s also 82, and a developmental quarterback is not a great fit with his actuarial table. The Pats take the talent and roll with it, unless they already have a deal to trade down (Raiders?) and then back up to 5 for McCarthy.

4. Arizona Cardinals- Marvin Harrison, Jr. (WR, An Ohio State University)

5. Minnesota Vikings (via Los Angeles Chargers)- JJ McCarthy (QB, Michigan)

It’s still too high for him, but this is the price of doing business in a year of many needy teams. Darnold will start, McCarthy will be rushed in around their bye week, struggles will ensue.

6. New York Giants- Malik Nabers (WR- LSU)

Sorry, Giants fans. They have too many holes to piss away assets trading up, and I will eat a Big Turk (the candy bar- DFO does not condone cannibalism unless stranded at sea, and then only after 18 hours) if one of the Big 3.5 quarterbacks makes it this far. You’ll just have to content yourself with an amazingly talented receiver

7. Tennessee Titans- Joe Alt (Tackle- Notre Dame)

8. Atlanta Falcons- Dallas Turner (Defensive End, Alabama)

9. Bearistocrats (again)- Jared Verse (Defensive End, Florida State)

An alternate line of thought has emerged that the Bears may go O-Line here. While more plausible than the GET CALEB ANOTHER WEAPON calls to The Score, I don’t see it unless they trade back another seven (or more) places.

10. J-E-S-T JEST JEST JEST- Brock Bowers (Tight End- Georgia)

11. Las Vegas Raiders (Trade from Chargers from Vikings) Michael Penix Jr. (QB, Washington).

HODL! Shit in that soup, Mark Davis!

12. Denver Broncos- Terrion Arnold (CB- Alabama) FORMERLY Quinyon Mitchell, (CB- Toledo)

Please: check on your Bronco fan friends. They are probably Not Ok. The team traded for Zach Wilson as “insurance” for Jarrett Stidham. Which is like getting insurance for a 1989 Geo Metro.

Right now, a significant number of Denver fans are looking at this and going “dear god, Sean Payton is so delusional about his ability to mold quarterbacks he’s going to ride this flaming wagon of dogshit all the way into Hell, and we are all strapped in as unwilling passengers.”

And maybe he is. Remember, Denver has no second round pick- because they traded it for Payton himself.  Drafting Bo Nix at 12 would be Football Malpractice. Drafting him in the mid-third round is probably not an option. So if they can’t trade down to 29-50, maybe Payton decides he can Make Magic all on his own.

I considered Odunze here, but if Payton is delusional enough to think he can make something out of Stidham, he’s delusional enough to trust his current receivers. The Broncos signed Levi Wallace, but signing Levi Wallace is not a solution. Again, they are desperate to trade down, and I would be shocked if they pick here. But if they do, I think they go cornerback

13. Los Angeles Chargers- Rome Odunze (WR- Washington)

14. New Orleans Saints- Olumuyiwa Fashanu (Tackle, Penn State).

15. Indianapolis Clots-Troy Fautanu (Offensive Line- Washington) PREVIOUSLY Brian Thomas, Jr. (WR- LSU)

Fresh news: Jim Irsay will not be present in the draft room while recovers from “back surgery for an old powerlifting injury.” That’s right, nothing to do with any “Massive Overdose of Powdered Orphan Pineal Gland” or anything…

Irsay will ostensibly be participating by phone. However, look for Chris Ballard to fake “technical difficulties” on the phone line and draft for both value and need here.

16. Seattle Seahawks- Jackson Powers-Johnson (Center, Oregon) FORMERLY Troy Fautanu (Offensive Line- Washington)

JPJ isn’t as good, but this is what comes of a rational Colts team in front of you.

17. jacksonville jaguars: Quinyon Mitchell (Cornerback, Toledo) PREVIOUSLY Terrion Arnold (Cornerback, Alabama)

The Smart Money is now on the jags to trade down with almost any willing partner. But for now, they go for the highest remaining guy at cornerback (which is now Mitchell).

18. Cincinnnananti Bengals: JC Latham (Right Tackle, Alabama)

19. Los Angeles Rams: Byron Murphy II (Defensive Tackle, Texas)

I am deeply tempted to change this to Bo Nix. Sean McVay has never had a first-round draft pick. GM Les Snead has had one since the Rams fucked off for Los Angeles 8 years ago, and it was Jared Goff. Matt Stafford is 36, and not a lightly-used 36: leaving aside his anatomy-textbook list of injuries, he’s been sacked 489 times for 3,243 yards. That’s almost as many yards as Ryan Leaf put up passing in his career. Nix could comfortably sit for a year or two, and Sean McVay would have a reason to skip his annual retirement talk as he molds a young passer.

If their defense didn’t suddenly have an Aaron Donald-shaped hole in the middle, I would actually consider this- but they do. If they trade back to the end of Round 1 or beginning of Round 2, a Nix pick becomes much more likely.

20. Pittsburgh Steelers: Brian Thomas Jr. (WR, LSU) FORMERLY Jackson Powers-Johnson (Center, Oregon)

Pittsburgh gets lucky here. They get a choice between the last top-tier receiver or auctioning him off to the Packers, Chiefs, Bills, etc. for a very good return. If it were solely Mike Tomlin’s call, I don’t they would ever draft a wideout in the first round. But with two quarterbacks on tryout periods, it may make sense here.

21. Miami Whalesnacks: Laiatu Latu (DE, UCLA)

22. Philadelphia Eagles: Cooper DeJean (Cornerback, Iowa)

I am increasingly certain of this pick. It just…has to happen.

23. Los Angeles Chargers (From MIN from CLE from HOU): Taliese Fuaga (Tackle, Oregon State)

I keep seeing that Fuaga won’t last this long. Frankly, if we’ve gotten this far and my picks are within two lightyears of reality and the issue is which tackle I got wrong, I’m going to play the lottery.

24. Dallas Cowpersons: Amarius Mims (Tackle, Georgia)

25. Green Bay Packers: Ladd McConkey (WR, Georgia)

Actually, I have greater faith in McConkey going at this spot than predicting which team will be here to take him. I think the Ravens may reach here and snag him.

26. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Chop Robinson (DE/OLB, Penn State)

Pork. Chop.

27. Arizona Cardinals: Kool-Aid McKinstry (Cornerback, Alabama)

28. Most Glorious Buffalo Bills: Adonai Mitchell

God help me, I’m talking myself into Mitchell. Just please don’t piss away more draft capital to jump up.

29. Detroit Lions: Nate Wiggins (Cornerback, Clemson) 

30. Baltimore Ravens: Johnny Newton (DT, Illinois) FORMERLY Tyler Guyton (Tackle, Oklahoma)

I psyched myself out on this. They should go offense. Specifically, O-line (unless they trade up for a better receiver than is available here). But it’s the Ravens. They are constitutionally unable to pass up a great prospect up the middle of the defense. They re-signed nose tackle Michael Pierce to a very cheap $7.5 million, 2 year deal this offseason. Even Pierce was surprised by this. They signed DT Justin Madubuike to a rich contract, this gives them the cheap talent to complement him.

31. San Francisco 49ers: Graham Barton (OT/Guard, Duke) PREVIOUSLY Christian Haynes (Guard, UConn)

Shuffling because the Niners need a right tackle now and a guard in the next year or so. Barton played tackle, but (to listen to the Draft Industrial Complex) he has wee tiny baby arms fit only for a guard. So maybe he plays a year at tackle and if he can’t hack it, slides inside.

32. Albuquerque Chiefs: Tyler Guyton (Tackle, Oklahoma) PREVIOUSLY Sydney Sweeney (DD, Idaho)

All prior joking aside, the Chiefs find themselves in a precarious position for a back-to-back Super Bowl Champion. Their need for receiver help is well-documented, but the top of the crop is gone by this point, leaving a bubbling stew of second and third round pass-catchers who will live or die on scheme fit and luck.

Less well-documented is the fact that their offensive line is thin, with a giant hole at left tackle. It’ll drive the Chiefs fans crazy, but solidifying the line with cheap young talent is a force-multiplier for every other part of the offense: it makes Mahomes more effective, reduces the risk of him being pulped into hummus, and makes the running game a more legitimate threat, all while freeing up salary cap room. All Kansas City really needs at receiver is a couple of guys whose hands are not stone and whose fingers are not butter. Much easier to find those later in this draft than a Day 1 starter at offensive tackle.

So there we go.

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Horatio Cornblower

Did Berman die, or did ESPN just finally shove him into a swamp and wander off while singing ‘Born Free’ as loud as they could?

makeitsnowondem

I see the Bengals watched the Oscar-nominated film The Visible Side.

Gumbygirl

He’s ginoUrmous, but why didn’t he play more?

Spur

owies

Horatio Cornblower

He was working on his PhD thesis in comparative economic systems in the Indo-Aryan civilizations in porto-iraq.

Those things don’t write themselves.

Redshirt

Hooray, a banged up tackle who only had eight starts due to injury.

Spur

Ram select a real estate attorney to find a way to evict the squatters aka Chargers

fleshwound_NPG

lol at the falcons not making cousins aware about the intentions of drafting a qb

Doktor Zymm

It’s pretty poetic considering he was unexpectedly drafted by the Redacteds the same year they drafted RG3

Horatio Cornblower

Mims was the guy the Cowboys were supposed to draft, and apparently has large hands and arms, so I am very upset by this pick.

Damn you Redshirt, you’ve made a powerful(ly drunk) enemy tonight!

Mr. Ayo

6’7″ and 340lbs. God damn!

litre_cola

Their line is huge.

Doktor Zymm

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Spur

The lineman from Washington is still there so am not concerned, yet

Horatio Cornblower

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnd he gone!

Beerguyrob

Now that hockey’s over for the night, I can flip between the drat and the Shogun finale.

Doktor Zymm

Miami selects: TOKUGAWA IEYASU, OKAZAKI CASTLE

Horatio Cornblower

There better be a S2 of Shogun, because that finale left me wanting a whole lot more.

yeah right

There will be. I read the book and they’re barely getting started.

Horatio Cornblower

Fuck and hai.

Spur

Sweet, the Lakers/Nuggets game is in 4k. Joker is going to rip out that laker heart tonight

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

And feed it to his pony.

Spur

Please, Mr. Elway has earned the right to be called a horse.

Beerguyrob

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Doktor Zymm

It’s true, he did grow to be larger than 14.2 hands at the withers

Doktor Zymm

Kinda dig the lemon/lime tie/suit combo

Beerguyrob

Shooting for that Sprite money right out of the chute.

Spur

Cindy selects a suit of power armor for Joe Burrow

Horatio Cornblower

Mike Brown: To be clear, I meant that to be a LEGO suit of armor.

Beerguyrob

Pretty happy with the Seahawks pick. Look at this D-line.

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Horatio Cornblower

Me: Wow, could Dallas Turner fall all the way to the…Dallas Cowboys?

Minnesota Vikings:

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Spur

Dallas Turner is gonna to be a beast. great pick

Redshirt

Well, this draft couldn’t have gone any worse.

Trade Down, Cincy.

Horatio Cornblower

I did try to get the NFL draft on the TV at the bar but was shouted down by own spawn. Goddamn ingrates.

Horatio Cornblower

Wow, Goodell’s diction was pretty clear considering all that military cock he had in his throat.

Mr. Ayo

Oh shit, the HOX didn’t trade down!

Horatio Cornblower

Trading picks doesn’t melt steel dreams.

Horatio Cornblower

/Door flies open

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Just got back from the bar where I met my brother, daughter, and son. Burying my grandmother, (well, her ashes anyway) tomorrow, so the Irish-Americans are assembling and beginning to attack anything fermented. 99 is a hell of a run, and also 2-4 more years than I am interested in seeing. And thanks to global warming that probably won’t be an issue!

(related note, my son just cracked open a beer I was going to ship to Snow. The Irish will also be brawling tonight)

Big thanks to Rev for taking this over this year. I genuinely enjoy doing it each year and I know how much work it is. This year I simply did not have the time to do anything more than type, “The Bears are making a mistake and whatever the Giants did is wrong.”

PENIX WENT 10TH!?

OH MY GOD THAT IS HORRIBLE!!!

/runs through clubhouse with Arsenal flag wrapped around wing-wang for no reason at all.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I feel like if you make it to 96 or so, it’s worth sticking around and trying to hit the century mark. Like in heaven they give you a special pin or something you get to wear.

Mr. Ayo

But, what does that get you in hell?

Doktor Zymm

You get the letter from the white house, but that seems like a pretty ‘meh’ prize nowadays

Horatio Cornblower

My grandmother was good until 95. After that it was a pretty steep decline. We’re just not meant to outlive tortoises, you know?

Spur

Seattle selects someone to scrap all the gum left under all the office desks.

litre_cola

Neck Injuries don’t happen in football right?

Spur

“Never” – Vander Esch, Sean Lee, Dat Nguyen

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

“No, but back injuries sometimes do.” – Miami Dolphins medical staff

fleshwound_NPG

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scotchnaut

Colts pick is in and it’s Andy Fentanyl.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I’m caring for a sick kitty right now, but I did enjoy the following update I found regarding the draft (via walterfootball):

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Gumbygirl

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makeitsnowondem

The team that drafts Dallas Turner is going to open a whole goddamn cask of champagane.

Spur

no shit. he better not drop to Philly but I think they’ll take a corner

litre_cola

That seems to be everything that I have read about the situation.

fleshwound_NPG

depending how much minny gave up

fleshwound_NPG

not a real ton for what they get. jax gonna fuck up them picks anyways

Redshirt

Good grief, it’s like every team is just checking names of the Bengals Draft Board.

Spur

The FatHumps cant waddle up fast enough to get their pick in. Come on! Lets keep this moving.

Spur

Indy selects a Caitlin Clark endorsement deal, can she kick a football? is she willing to learn?

makeitsnowondem

I bet Caitlin Clark’s better at architecture than Andrew Luck.

fleshwound_NPG

iowa produces great football players despite the school never actually playing football

TheRevanchist

If Iowa learns to score at football, they will be a dangerous team.

Spur

Those Detroit fires in the distance really give the place some charm

Redshirt

2024: The Year the Broncos Broke Hippo

King Hippo

Seriously, RedZone Channel is what keeps my head out of the oven.

litre_cola

He still has Everton beating Liverpool yesterday

Brocky

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King Hippo

The last time I was this mad on Draft night? The Tebow Year.

scotchnaut

As a Giants fan, I can’t imagine what it would be like drafting a severely flawed QB far too early.

makeitsnowondem

For me that was way worse, even though it was tempered by the excellent Demaryius Thomas (RIP) pick.

King Hippo

I went from so happy to so pissed off within like 5 minutes that night. Damaryius was such a beast, even in college.

Redshirt

Damn Raiders overreaching cost me Bowers.

King Hippo

You know, it’s almost like THERE WILL BE QUARTERED BACKS AVAILABLE TO DRAFT NEXT GODDAMNED YEAR AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT.

Spur

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fleshwound_NPG

offensive numbers dropped ever so slightly in the nfl last year for the first time in quite awhile

nfl teams: *drafts offense for the first 13 picks, first time ever doing so*

fleshwound_NPG

14…

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clots with the combo breaker

SonOfSpam

Very happy the rumours about the RAMMMMMITS trading up didn’t happen.

There are a LOT of good D players left.

(Good defensive players, not guys with good dicks, although maybe there are some of those too, not a cock scout)

Doktor Zymm

I’m actually astounded they don’t measure that during the combine

BrettFavresColonoscopy

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King Hippo

Neither Hippo nor Other Hippo shall be ordering Sunday Ticket for a few years.

Doktor Zymm

If you decide to give temporary fandom to a different incredibly disappointing team we can definitely help you pick

Gumbygirl

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Mr. Ayo

Do not do a search on the history of first round TEs, Rikki.

makeitsnowondem

Vernon Davis grew into a solid role player.

Mr. Ayo

Exactly what you want from the 13th pick

Doktor Zymm

Wow, 3 in 2002

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I mean I can just look up Michael Mayer’s stats from last year, that ought to do it.

Spur

Saints select Lasik surgery for Carr.

Gumbygirl

And risk fucking up those eyelashes? No way! He can get a seeing- eye dog and a cane.

SonOfSpam

Some porn-stache guy just got a nice weapon

scotchnaut

Bowers is the pick-I love misguided Raiders draft room. They just keep on giving.

Spur

Raiders need a QB but no one left to reach for. its a good pick for the Raiders.

ballsofsteelandfury

I think the best part of the draft is laughing at the stupid picks.

Doktor Zymm

Hell yes!

Spur

Raiders select to play the all the NFC East teams at home this year.
*Note this has nothing to do with season ticket holders interest

makeitsnowondem

Did anyone already do ‘Raiders draft Xavier Worthy’ or is Al Davis dead?

BrettFavresColonoscopy

No harm ever comes from drafting the overly seasoned college QB, right, Chris Weinke?

makeitsnowondem

Honestly if Nix ever ever goes 4-7 for 32 yards in a win at least he’ll finally have exorcised the ghost of Tim Tebow.

TheRevanchist

Hahahaha!!!! The Raiders might be able to get a QB. I hear Iowa has a spare one.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Caitlin Clark?

fleshwound_NPG

no way she can play football for iowa. she doesnt know how to punt

makeitsnowondem

Well, I thought this was going to be it. And I like Nix. There just wasn’t any leverage to trade down.

scotchnaut
Spur

the lack of oxygen has finally gotten to the Donks