Your “TWO Tiebreakers?!?” Monday Afternoon Open Thread

The baseball regular season is over and we have our ten teams playing in the postseason. And the American League is nice and cut and dry. Everyone here except for Ian, Horatio, Fronk (I think), Herodotus (I think), and I will be rooting for the Dirt Raiders come Wednesday in the Wild Card Game. Winner hopefully beats the ever-loving fuck out of the Grit Sawx in the Division Series. On the other side of the AL bracket, the defending champion Astros take on the [MLB Redacteds] in the other Division Series.

Except the regular season is not over. Because the playoff order hasn’t even been decided yet in the National League. We know the teams playing: the Braves, Small Bears, Brewers, Dodgers, and Rockies. We have no idea who’s playing who where. Actually we know that the Braves will be the 3rd seed. That’s it. They don’t even know where they’re going yet.

Our two games:

NL Central Tiebreaker: Brewers at Cubs, 1:05 PM Eastern, ESPN

Cubs get home field by way of winning season series 11-8.

Not only is this game for the NL Central title, it’s also for the top seed in the National League and the home-field advantage throughout the NL playoffs that come with it.

Pitching for the Cubs is José Quintana, who they got from the cross-town White Sox last year to try and lead them to a repeat. That didn’t quite happen. This year Quintana’s had an okay I guess year, going 13-11 with a 4.09 ERA. Definitely not the 2016 All-Star everyone wanted in 2017 but didn’t remain at those lofty standards. Quintana pitched well against the Brewers this season, going 4-1 with a 2 and change ERA, including 6 2/3 scoreless at Wrigley on September 11.

Pitching for the Brewers is that illustrious specimen (as of writing this twelve hours before first pitch)… TBD. Well that doesn’t fucking help with predictions. You can’t do a bullpen game in all likelihood, the loser has to play tomorrow! Okay, I guess you can, because you can use the regular season roster which is up to 40 players once you get to September. No, there’s still no better option.

(Update: Jhoulys Chacín gets the ball for the Brew Crew.)

Oh, and did I mention that earlier? The one thing possibly preventing new middle names being given to players

Normally that name is “Bleeping,” depending on company.

is that the losers of both of these games play in the one game Wild Card playoff tomorrow night. That is slightly better for the loser of the Central game, as they have the better record, so they’ll be the team that gets home field for that game. The winner of that game plays the winner of this game in the Division Series.

That makes sense, right? Good.

NL West Tiebreaker: Rockies at Dodgers, 4:09 PM Eastern, ESPN

Dodgers get home field by way of winning season series 12-7.

I know in other sports the head-to-head would be first tiebreaker for spots (like… all the other Big Four sports actually), but when they expanded the playoffs to two Wild Card teams playing a one-game playoff they changed that. I remember in 2005 the Yankees won the AL East based on winning the head-to-head with the Red Sox, but both teams finished 95-67. The last series was at Fenway, and they lost that last game (checks Baseball Reference) 10-1 but nobody gave an ass because by winning the day before they had locked up the division. That game would have meant something. On a related note I do like the “everyone’s game that last day starts at 3:00” rule. One of the useful things taken from Lesser Footy!

Anyway back to this game, the winner gets the #2 seed and will host Atlanta on Thursday. The loser has to fly east to play the loser of the first game, and then, should they win that, fly to face the winner of the first game in Game 1 of that series, also on Thursday. In the case of the Rockies, they have also never won the NL West. Yes, they’ve won the pennant in that famous Rocktober run in 2007 (and as a result every Rockies playoff run is Rocktober), but they didn’t win the division—the Diamondbacks did and the Rockies had to beat the Padres in the Wild Card tiebreaker.

Scotchtoberfest, meanwhile, will begin when Scotchy posts the MNF thread later tonight.

As for the Dodgers, defending last year’s NL crown/getting revenge for the entire pitching staff running out of gas has to start somewhere and it’s a lot easier starting without the Wild Card Game.

Pitching for the Rockies is German Márquez, who last time out did this. If you don’t want to click on an MLB link, he struck out the first eight batters he faced, tying the modern (post-1900) Major League record (oddly enough he didn’t get the pitcher), and set the franchise single-season record.

Pitching for the Dodgers is

Not quite. Walker Buehler, spelled differently, is a rookie starting the Dodgers’ most important game of the season so far. That’s right, it’s not Clayton Kershaw. He pitched on Saturday, so he wouldn’t be in line to pitch until Game 1 on Thursday. The thing about it being a dogfight until the end is that you can’t always line everything up nicely. Although if they had won the division it would have, fair point. But Buehler’s pitched fairly well too, with an ERA about the same as the great Kershaw’s (granted due to injuries he didn’t have his usual lights-out Cy Young contending year). Most years he’d probably be a Rookie of the Year contender, but that’s either going to be Juan Soto or Ronald Acuña, Jr..

A historic (NOT HISTORICAL) event (NOT “AN HISTORIC EVENT”) at stake here too: This is not a postseason game. This is Game 163. Which means the stats all count as regular season stats. Which gives us the case of Christian Yelich, who’s been on some sort of ridiculous tear the last month. Where he still has a chance at the Triple Crown. AND to make it more intriguing those blocking this feat are also playing.

Batting Average: Yelich is hitting .323, well above Cincy’s Scooter Gennett at .310. That’s not the interesting one.
Home Runs: Yelich has 36 home runs, tied with two others including Trevor Story of the Rockies. He is one behind Nolan Arenado of the Rockies, who leads the NL with 37. Teammate Jesús Aguilar is one back with 35, and while we’re at it, Javy Baez of the Cubs is two behind Yelich.
Runs Batted In: Yelich has 109 RBIs, two behind Baez, tied with Arenado, one ahead of Aguilar, two ahead of Story.

Predictions? Well, Suzyn, you can’t predict baseball. But I’m going to take the Brewers who’ve been on Yelich’s back as he’s going to win the MVP, and while I’m at it, screw it, I’ll take the red-hot Rockies. And Yelich ties either Arenado or Baez in one of the categories, but the other gets one while we’re at it so at the end of the day he falls just short.

Fans of the four teams, hold onto your butts. Everyone else, let’s watch some chaos!

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Redshirt

Ah, “Rocky Balboa”, before “Infinity War” it was my most memorable movie theatre audience moment. Near the end as it starts the fight scene, you could almost sense the crowd looking around like “Its not just me? You’re liking this too, right? This is actually good?”

King Hippo

I saw “Friday” at a theatre where my platonic friend Kasia and I were the only white folk there. They played this music video before, and everyone stood up, danced, and sang. It was glorious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISbnf9qCmhI

Redshirt

That the greatest compliment an audience can make a movie. Not to be entertained but to be moved. Its why “Infinity War” got standing ovations and applauses after destroying their audience to their core. Its why “Rocky Horror Picture Show” still gets showings to this day.

PS: That’s yet another movie I still gotta see. The list is around 200.

theeWeeBabySeamus

I had the same deal with New Jack City. It was a fun night.
It seriously was. The tiny little white girl I was dating at the time might not agree however.

She was a little out of her element, if I’m being honest.

Mr. Ayo

Rocktober off to a rocky start

King Hippo

probably a poor harbinger for non-Dirt Donks, too

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I see the replay crew from last night’s Raiders’ game have branched out into baseball.

yeah right

My whole master plan was to see St. Louis not make the playoffs and for the Dodgers to get eliminated in the play-in game.
I just didn’t expect the Cubs to be in as a wild card. Everything is right on pace!

ArmedandHammered

And now my day will be complete shit, with the Cubs loss. Since the wife is a huge Cubs fan, not only do I have a complete Monday workday, now my evening will probably be full of a double dose of passive aggressive rage and bitterness (normal end of her work day + Cubs loss). I think tonight will be leftovers for dinner and then heads down into a book.

If you see me type “Forrest Tucker was a great underrated actor.” Please send help with lots of Ben and Jerry’s Truffle Kerfuffle.

bk109

And Cubs ded…. Hopefully permanently after tomorrow 🙂

King Hippo
King Hippo

LOLMurphy

King Hippo

That made the first 4-hit game of Tan Pete Kozma’s el beisbol career.

bk109

Three outs and the great lemming rush into the lake may commence!

King Hippo

3 more outs, and one can root for the Dirt Donks so Kershaw can twist the knife tomorrow.

King Hippo

maybe that juju won’t start until real series play?

Low Commander of the Super Soldiers

I like this, although I would MUCH rather see the Doyers gone in the wild card round.

King Hippo

Hush yo’ mouth, sinner!

Low Commander of the Super Soldiers

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yeah right

Goddammit, I’m at work and it’s busy as FUCK!

bk109

Pull the fire alarm, that’ll quiet things down…

blaxabbath

Mondays, am I….yeah right?

King Hippo

Ummmm, I don’t think you wanna see this.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I hope the whole city of Milwaukee is watching and committing the faces of these players to memory. Particularly the restaurant staff and cops.

bk109

That booing at Wrigley’s just beautiful…

blaxabbath

BANNER

bk109

No, that was a 2-0 “gender changer” pitch !

Unsurprised

Open afternoon thread? For dirt football?
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Sharkbait

Is the safe word Fidelio?

King Hippo

and now pitching to a high-splits LHB??

King Hippo

wait, forgot their goofy order

King Hippo

Chacin is still in for…reasons?

King Hippo

Ryan Braun is a worthless piece of shit

Low Commander of the Super Soldiers

In the case of the Rockies, they have also never won the NL West. Yes, they’ve won the pennant in that famous Rocktober run in 2007 (and as a result every Rockies playoff run is Rocktober), but they didn’t win the division—the Diamondbacks did and the Rockies had to beat the Padres in the Wild Card tiebreaker.

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MATT HOLLIDAY NEVER TOUCHED HOME! NEVER! NEVERRRRRR!
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bk109

Yay-lich!

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Overexcited ump pulling an Enrico Pallazzo there.

Sharkbait

Based Ball needs more Enrico Pallazzo.
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Redshirt

Footed Ball would need more but they screw up more, it’d only be time before one is clotheslined.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I think Rizzo should grow his hair out and get a perm and then they can call him Frizzo.

bk109

Chacin’s going, going, gone at this rate… Ungh, and the stadium PA played Metallica, which is grounds for immediate bombardment from orbit…

King Hippo

goddamnit REDUX

King Hippo

HAWT TAEK – they should pinch hit for Chachin

bk109

lol, wifey (who doesn’t really pay that much attention to baseball), just saw the Cubs tiebraker and was dumbfounded how could the piss away such a lead that late in the season XD Great job, Cubs, even laywomen can’t fathom yer incompetence 😀

King Hippo

Chacin won’t be in this game past the 5th (if that long), MIL has three unhittable relievers. Small Bears window is closing!

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

How long after his retirment does Aguilar balloon up to 300 lbs? Six weeks?

King Hippo

DAYS

LemonJello

!?! Based…ball?!?

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King Hippo

just greasing the tracks for tonight’s Chefs snuff film

/also, would let her take BP on me as long as she’d like

LemonJello

There’s a Bourdain special on tonight?

King Hippo

I laughed audibly in the hospital corridor. DAMN YOU.

theeWeeBabySeamus

Hey oh!!!!!!!

blaxabbath

Wow — baseball is really boring to read about when you don’t know any of the players. Sure is good for watching with some brews though!

That’s why I like football where, as with real life relationships, knowing someone’s name actually kind of detracts from the physical brutality.

*This comment is sponsored by Americans for Brett Kavanaugh. Brett Kavanaugh: because why shouldn’t rapists have one of their own on the bench? Broads got like two!*

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Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I’d like to point out that in his totally honest sworn testimony he assured us that he didn’t successfully rape anyone until he was well out of college.

King Hippo

Such judicial restraint!

blaxabbath

Only cuz he had whisky dick for a decade. At the very least, the investigation should last the duration that his buddy had to hold down the chick while he was pushin’ rope.

King Hippo

That’s how the Senate Judiciary Committee needed to get him to confess ordering the Code Red, goddamnit.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I cannot fathom how anyone can look at the state of the blood vessels in his face and say to themselves “I genuinely believe that guy when he says that he never blacked out or passed out from drinking too much.”

King Hippo

YEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

/right into my bitter, arsehole veins

bk109

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King Hippo

goddamnit

theeWeeBabySeamus

Honestly, if Orioles’ mgmt just fires Showalter, instead of shooting him in the head, I’ll be totes disappoint.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-manager-tracker-hot-seat-rumors-angels-mike-sciocia-wont-return-for-2019-season/

Sharkbait

They were so close to the record. One more year might push them over the edge!

theeWeeBabySeamus

the 1988 Baltimore Orioles started the season off with an 0-21 losing streak. They still managed to win 54 games. I never thought I’d ever see an Orioles team worse than that one.

The 2018 Baltimore Orioles finished a full 7 games worse than that.

47-115

YOU HAVE TO FUCKING TRY TO BE THAT BAD!!!!!!!!!

Sharkbait

That’s impressive. At what point do you root for the record? Loss 100?

theeWeeBabySeamus

I’m just happy they got to 115 and I don’t have to eat my own underpants.

(I predicted 115 losses a few weeks ago…and said I’d eat my own underpants if they didn’t make it)

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theeWeeBabySeamus

/remembers that Dan Duquette and Peter Angelos are both yuuuuuge pussies

King Hippo

with that wack-ass IF alignment, how in Christ’s name is MIL 2nd in DRS? I know they have 2 fantastic defensing OFs, but still…

King Hippo

Chacin is on one of my full-roster replay league teams, so hopefully he does Hippo and all fellow bitter #BFIB proud today. We are all Dirt Packers (phrasing)!!

bk109

So, how many Cubs fans will they fish outta lake Michigan, if the Cubs lose the tiebraker and the wildcard game ? Given the lead they’ve already blown so far, it’ll be phun…

King Hippo

there should already be an entire separate dugout for Joe Maddon’s ego, they will NEVAR get him off his cross if they lose today

bk109

eh, if he loses both, they’ll in fact make him a special dugout just for him and his ego on a special barge just for him – and then they’ll set it on fire and scuttle it with him aboard in the lake 😀

King Hippo

I’ll contribute to that GoFundMe!

bk109

You and the whole city of Chicago, even the White Sox !

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Okay one inning and then back to work…

[six innings later…]

bk109

Six innings later? You must be parched – grab a beer, work can wait a bit

theeWeeBabySeamus

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theeWeeBabySeamus

I think Don_T has something to do with this.

theeWeeBabySeamus

I know this one. I remember the day it happened.

Bucky Fucking Dent.

Sharkbait

Afternoon open thread? Clearly this deserves my full attention. Sorry “job” and “work”.