Horatio’s Bigger, Stupider & More Revised 2017 Mock Draft & Open Thread!

As you may recall about a month ago I put together a somewhat researched mock draft, doing the best I could with several hours of research and writing and stuff.  It was actually a fair amount of work and gave me a new appreciation for all the work that the people who regula…

Ah, fuck, who am I kidding?  It did take me a long time to write, but that’s only because there are 32 teams and even putting 5-10 minutes of work into each team, (which is a pretty fucking generous estimate if I’m being honest), that adds up.  Mock drafts are ridiculous.  No one who does one has any idea of what they’re doing and if you get 20% of the picks right you’re a goddamn legend.  However, this is ostensibly an NFL-oriented blog and if we’re going to pretend to be that then we have to have a mock draft and not only that but we have to revise the goddamn thing, preferably several times.  Since none of you assholes submitted your own mock drafts, and since I’m writing this two days before the actual draft, I guess two versions will have to do.

By the way, my estimated time to get this revision done?  40 minutes.  Let’s see Mel Kiper do that!  Please, follow along with the draft in the comments, make fun of my bone-head picks, (hint:  there are 31 of them), and see how I do compared to Mel, Todd, PK and everyone else who gets paid to do this shit.  My guess is I hold my own and, again, 40 minutes.  Go!

  1.  Cleveland Browns:  Myles Garret.  Status:  Unchanged.  This is the one pick I would bet money on.  And expect to win.  As anyone who’s played in the DFO poker room with me will attest, I’ll bet money on pretty much anything.
  2. San Francisco 49ers:  Solomon Thomas.  Status:  Changed!  Everything I’ve seen lately shows the QB prospects plunging, with Watson, the previous choice here, falling into the mid-teens.  Part of me still thinks that QB whisperer Kyle Shanahan will want to take Watson or Trubisky here but a bigger part of me has been persuaded that the 49ers will take Thomas here, grab a QB like Kizer early in the second round, tank the season and come back with a top 4 pick next season, (and maybe Kirk Cousins), and see what they can do.
  3. Chicago Bears:  Mitchell Trubisky.  Status:  Unchanged.  I have almost no confidence in this pick.  As noted above the QBs have been plunging in the mock drafts and everyone seems to realize that Trubisky only started 13 games in college and that that’s not a lot to go on.  Countering this, however, is that the Bears are run by 10,000 chimps banging away at 10,000 typewriters and Trubisky just seems like the kind of typo they’d come up with.  Also with the Bears having Mike Glennon and with Trubisky needing time to develop he is perfect for a team trying to tank the season and get another high pick next year and then teaming him up with a more seasoned Trubisky.  Seems like a very Chicago thing to do in that it’s technically illegal and probably won’t work.  So I’m sticking with Mitch and his melanin deficiency.  Just ask Jared Goff about how much a lack of melanin helps an unprepared QB’s draft stock.
  4. Jacksonville Jaguars:  Leonard Fournette.  Status:  Changed!  I thought Fournette was a possibility here back in March and since then Jonathan Allen, who I had going here, has started to slip some because he didn’t do well at the combine and concerns about his undergoing shoulder surgery.  The combine is bullshit and most people who’ve played football to age 21 probably need some kind of surgery but if you’re the Jaguars and you can either take a guy who bombed the combine and needs a new shoulder or get a beast of a RB, especially after seeing what Zeke did for the Cowboys last year, I’m going to guess they take Fournette.  But I won’t be surprised if they take Allen.  In fact I won’t be surprised if I get all of these wrong except Garret!
  5. Tennessee Titans:  Mike Williams.  Status:  Unchanged.  Lately I’m seeing (I saw this once) OJ Howard going here and I had the Titans taking him at 18 in the first version of this little opus.  He now seems unlikely to be there at 18 but I don’t see the Titans taking him at 5.  They could trade down from 5 to try to get him at 10-15 but if I start trying to predict trades I’m going to go insane.  Fuck that.  Also   Tennessee has a good D, a good RB, a decent QB, a good TE and shit WR.  Williams just makes too much sense here.
  6. New York Jets:  Marshon Lattimore.  Status:  Unchanged.  A lot of people, PK among them, have the Jets either trading down to get OJ Howard or DeShaun Watson or outright drafting Howard right here.  I think the latter more likely than the former, simply because the Jets fans will undoubtedly flash back to Kyle Brady and all get PTSD, which would be awesome.  But if Lattimore’s still here, (the Bears may very well fuck me on this one), I can’t see the Jets and their dumpster fire of a secondary passing on him.  There’s also talk about the Jets drafting Trubisky here or trading up to get him, but I still think they’re more likely to throw money at Cutler, just because that seems like the most Jets thing to do.
  7. Los Angeles Chargers: Malik Hooker.  Status: Changed!  I had the Chargers taking Thomas here but I just gave him to the 49ers so that’s out.  It’s really a numbers game; a significant majority of people have the Chargers taking Hooker, I gave him some consideration in the first version and if Thomas isn’t there I see no good reason, (except Jonathan Allen), not to pick him here.
  8. Carolina Panthers:  Christian McCaffrey.  Status:  Changed! A word or two about McCaffrey.  He is rocketing up draft boards.  To me he is the classic guy who was great in college and is not going to be at all great in the pros.  Could I be wrong?  YES!  MORE THAN LIKELY!!  But I still think Carolina will regret not taking Jonathan Allen here and that drafting the second coming of Toby Gerhart will ensure them of little more than drafting in the Top 10 again next year.
  9. Cincinnati Bengals: Corey Davis.  Status:  Unchanged.  This is another pick that I have little confidence in.  Fun fact, the Bengals mock drafts are some of the most hilariously delusional drafts out there.  They make sensible first picks like OJ Howard, or even Jonathan Allen but the second round pick is inevitably someone who has plunged 20 places for no reason at all other than that the Bengals fan doing the mock draft desperately wants him on their team.  So yeah, this pick is probably wrong but it’s infinitely more accurate than what your average Bengals fan thinks is going to happen in Round 2.
  10. Buffalo Bills:  DeShaun Watson.  Status:  Changed.  I feel kind of bad because I agree with Mel Kiper here.  Nonetheless it does seem likely that Watson is going to fall but he is not going to fall past Buffalo.  Which is too bad because I think he may be the best QB prospect of the 4 I’m aware of and Buffalo will end him before he can even get going.
  11. New Orleans Saints:  Jonathan Allen.  Status.  Changed.  Derek Barnett seems like a very good pick but Jonathan Allen is plummeting since Version 1.0 and I suspect that his plunge lands hard on Bourbon Street.  Which could be a lot worse for Allen.  Look who’s up next!
  12. Cleveland Browns: OJ Howard.  Status: Changed!  Because I was sort of joking about Cook and his past is apparently raising some concerns, enough that his draft position is best represented by that plane you see up above.  Because the Browns don’t have a good QB, (and I don’t see Trubisky or Watson falling this far), and if you don’t have a good QB you can help an average QB get better with an elite TE and Howard has been shooting up draft boards because everyone thinks he will be an elite TE.  Note that this also seems like the most-likely-to-be-traded pick.
  13. Arizona Cardinals: Derek Barnett.  Status:  Changed!  Because Brian Kelly killed DeShone Kizer’s reputation, apparently no longer satisfied with just killing student assistants.  With Kizer now almost guaranteed to fall into the second round, (and if he does, hello Cleveland!), the Cardinals seem more likely to focus on their defensive needs and Barnett does that nicely. I considered Reuben Foster here too, (in the revised version), but then I heard he had a diluted drug sample in addition to throwing a shit-fit at the combine, and that seems like something that should drop you in the draft, and is something that Barnett has not done.  Yet.
  14. Philadelphia Eagles: Haason Reddick, LB Temple.  Status:  Changed! In the interest of full disclosure I had initially changed this pick to Gareon Conely, the CB from Ohio State who had been getting a lot of great press and was moving up the draft boards.  But then on Wednesday, while ensconced in the men’s room with nothing but my thoughts and the NY Times sports section for company I also learned that Conley has gotten a smidgen of bad press.  As in “being investigated in connection with a rape” bad press.  I don’t see how a prospect survives that and stays in the first round.  Of course it probably means that the Cowboys will sign him as a free agent so, hurray? Apparently the Eagles fans will riot in happiness if this “Local Boy Makes Good Story” happens, so that’s something to look forward to.  I mean, they’re going to riot anyway; might as well do it out of joy rather than rage.
  15. Indianapolis Colts:Reuben Foster.  Status:  Changed!   If there’s one person who needs a good linebacker and doesn’t give a shit about random outbursts and diluted drug tests it’s Jim Irsay.
  16. Baltimore Ravens: Takkarist McKinley.  Status:  Changed!  Because I shipped Foster off to Indianapolis and they still need to think about replacing Suggs, and because even though Dalvin Cook would probably be a good fit on the Ravens there is no way in hell the Ravens are going to draft a RB with off-field issues this high.  Janay Rice apologizes for her role in that decision.
  17. Washington Redacteds: Jamal Adams.  Status:  Changed!  I seem to have switched Adams with Hooker, who I had the Redacteds drafting here, and since they’re both highly rated safeties I guess Adams will go here.  Good a reason as any other.
  18. Tennessee Titans: Quincy Wilson.  Status:  Changed!  Because Howard’s gone, because the Titan’s need a CB more than they need David Njoku and because Wilson’s the best CB still on the board, according to people who know these things.
  19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Dalvin Cook.  Status:  Changed!  Because the Buccaneers could use a good RB, because Cook is a very good RB and because Tampa Bay clearly doesn’t give a shit about Florida State stars having off-field issues.
  20. Denver Broncos:  Ryan Ramczyk.  Status: Unchanged.  No change here but a word about Christian McCaffrey.  He seems to be rocketing up draft boards, to the point that people don’t think he’ll be around when Denver picks, because if he is John Elway will say “Well, we both went to Stanford and his Dad was good so he must be too” and take him here.  To me McCaffrey is the classic guy who was great in college and is not going to be at all great in the pros.  Could I be wrong?  YES!  McCaffrey will be long gone before Denver picks and the team that gets him can brag about having the next Toby Gerhart all the way to a Top 5 pick in next year’s draft.
  21. Detroit Lions: Taco Charlton.  Status:  Unchanged.  Most drafts I’ve seen have Charlton going before this.  If he’s still around here the Lions would be stupid to let him drop any farther.  So yeah, they’ll draft John Ross.
  22. Miami Dolphins:  Davd Njoku.  Status:  Unchanged.  I liked him here in Version 1.0, I haven’t seen much about him moving up and I therefore see no reason to change the pick.  Also I am lazy.
  23. New York Giants:  Garrett Bolles.  Status:  Changed!  The Giants still need help on the line if Eli isn’t going to beat his brother’s record for surgeries.  I had the Giants taking Cam Robinson here but Bolles is getting a lot of good press lately and Robinson doesn’t seem to be.
  24. Oakland Raiders: Jabril Peppers.  Status:  Changed!  I think the Raiders could probably use a DE like Harris here more, as in Version 1.0 but based on past experience with the Raiders all things being equal they can’t resist names and speed and Peppers has both.  He may not have a position but surely Oakland can figure something out for him.
  25. Houston Texans: Pat Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech.  Status:  Changed!  The Texans undoubtedly need a QB of the future and while I kind of doubt Mahomes is  going to be that there is simply too much chatter about him lately for me to keep thinking he’s getting past Houston.  It’s probably wishful thinking on their part and they may come to regret it but I don’t think they’ll be able to resist.
  26. Seattle Seahawks: Cam Robinson.  Status:  Changed!  If the Texans actually take Mahomes and pass on Robinson Pete Carroll’s ejaculate will melt steel beams.  The Seahawks desperately need O-line help and Robinson fits that need very well.  Brush up on your conspiracy theories Cam!
  27. Kansas City Chiefs: Zach Cunningham.  Status:  Unchanged.  It’s between Cunngham and Florida’s Jarrod Davis at this point in this no-doubt-shitshow-of-a-mock-draft and I put Cunningham here last time and can’t think of any good reason to change him out.
  28. Dallas Cowboys:  Charles Harris.  Status:  Changed!  Thanks to me assigning Peppers to Oakland Harris has managed to fall to the Cowboys and I am pleased to announce that they no longer have to take a(nother) extremely questionable guy to get the pass rusher they so obviously need.  Welcome aboard Charles, and please don’t kill any hookers. (They’ll still take Williams in the second round)
  29. Green Bay Packers: Marlon Humphrey.  Status:  Changed!  The domino theory at work.  The Browns take Howard, screwing the Titans.  The Titans take Wilson, screwing the Packers.  The Packers take Humphrey, and are probably still pretty happy.  Everyone likes a good screwing.
  30. Pittsburgh Steelers:  Jarrad Davis.  Status:  Unchanged.  Davis is still around and the Steelers love linebackers, and happen to need one.  Done and done.
  31. Atlanta Falcons: Malik McDowell, DT, Michigan State.  Status:  Changed! A lot of drafts have the Falcons taking TJ Watt here but I will be goddamned if I give another Watt a first round pedestal to talk about their humility and stunning work ethic.  McDowell’s got some character issues but with some people saying he’d be the second pick overall without them.  Since he’s apparently just “lazy” and doesn’t practice hard, (also a little heavy on the melanin ifyouknowwhatimean), and hasn’t actually killed anyone I say the Falcons would be nuts not to take him at 31.
  32. New Orleans SaintsObi Melinfowu.  Status:  Unchanged.  I have no idea who the Saints will pick.  People seem to have calmed down about Obi blowing up the combine but the Saints still need defense so unless they trade this pick to the Patriots in some bizarre deal for Malcolm Butler then I’ll stick with my first choice.

Please enjoy the draft.  I look forward to my well-deserved humiliation and your just-as-certain understanding and sympathy.

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Spur

This this man they don’t trade for Clowney for Tony Romo for.ok?

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The part about the Trubisky pick that will fuck with me for years to come is that he’ll eventually start, put up incredibly mediocre numbers and people in this goddamned town will insist he’s better than Cutler.

Gratliff

I think it says a lot about Chicago that Cutler is the standard to live up to

litre_cola

What about the punky qb?

...

*slumps over and mutters to self* goddamn it

The Right Reverend Electric Mayhem

David Carr looks massively uncomfortable as his first year keeps getting described

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

That happens when the butt plug slips out.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Sorry; thet was Mel Kyper.

WCS

He would have serious PTSD if his brain wasn’t mush.

Dick E. Phuck

Deshaun Watson: [Throws Pick six immediately]

Beastmode Ate My Baby

3 QBs in the first 12. Is Watson at least ready to start?

King Hippo

No

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

and no.

Beastmode Ate My Baby

So, no then?

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Probably not. Maybe. Perhaps.

-PK

The Right Reverend Electric Mayhem

Only when compared to Tom Savage

Dick E. Phuck

NO

The Right Reverend Electric Mayhem

Thank god the Bills talked themselves out of the QB Freakout

LeighAnne

I don’t think any of these quarterbacks are better than Tyrod Taylor. This is a really mediocre class of QBs.

...

*whispers* goddamn it

...

I should sleep and dream the Bears don’t actually exist and that I’m a fan of a team that isn’t shit.

Romonobyl

Or you could just move to Houston.

Spur

All Watson needs to do is score 17 points a game and they’ll have a 75% chance the game.

King Hippo

ppl spending lots of capital for some very shitty QBs

makeitsnowondem

Broncos are going to get in on the action by redrafting Paxton Lynch.

litre_cola

That name is familiar but I just can’t place it.

King Hippo

ah have a job Melissa Stark can do…

Dick E. Phuck

Skin flute player for the London Symphony Orchestra?

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Hahaha. The Bears triggered a run on mediocre quarterbacks.

King Hippo

honestly…you may have spent the least (no future #1). Your QB is the worstest, though. But they all suck.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

i haven’t seen a mediocre quarterback run since the last Jets game.

Redshirt

Wow. Browns are hedging their bets with getting the #1 pick next year.

scotchnaut

KARLSSON!!!!!!!!!!!

WHOOP!! WHOOP!!!!

Dick E. Phuck

The Browns and the Texans trading is like watching a crime against humanity slowly unfolding before our eyes.

makeitsnowondem

No chance. Trump’s not going to bomb a state that voted for him.

Spur

Welcome to Texas Watson

Gratliff

DOOPY PANTS should be getting the Chris Benoit treatment

Redshirt

So Osweiler is the Browns’ QB of the future?

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Their future is racing with the Bears to next year’s number one pick.

Redshirt

Oh, dear God. What did the Moo Cows do now?

WCS

…and the Browns just Browned.

Doktor Zymm

Fuck them all. I wanna see some healthy, enthustiastic dudes.

Spur

King Hippo spreading his opinions
http://i.imgur.com/FsIfwEr.gif

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

FUCKING PERFECT!!!!!!

King Hippo

In mah defense: (i) am very stupid; and (ii) equally crunk (pills and beer).

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I think I’ve raged my remaining energy out and I can sleep now.

The Right Reverend Electric Mayhem

Wait until they trade back into the first round to grab a center

...

A kicker. Let’s go for a stroke tonight.

The Right Reverend Electric Mayhem

“Sure!” -Kellen Winslow

makeitsnowondem

Bad draft strategy from the Saints. They should stock their hopeless defense with minimum-wage players and focus on scoring a thousand points a game.

Redshirt

Come on, Brown. Browns need a QB, you have draft picks. Do something bold for a change!

Senor Weaselo

Am I the only one not watching the draft?
/1-1 Ice Giants-Ice REDBLACKS
//Tanaka has a potential Maddux going

Senor Weaselo

He got the Maddux, that works for me.

Dick E. Phuck

Tanaka-Sama

Doktor Zymm

I have no reason to, but I will be awake until the [*Redacted] s pick. Yes, I should say redacteds, but fuck it.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I’m a little disappointed in this Philadelphia crowd. I was hoping they would hurl batteries.

The Right Reverend Electric Mayhem

Wait for 14

Gratliff

BOOOOOOOOO

litre_cola

Who do you want Grat?

Gratliff

Honestly don’t know. I’m not a good draft fan.

Dick E. Phuck

But to be fair, Brett’s gun isn’t much to write home about.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

TRUTH

King Hippo

OK, Denver. LISTEN TO HIPPO. FUCK THE OL. Hassan Reddick, that watery pee guy from Roll Damn Tide, and OJ Howard are all on the board. MOTHERFUCKING TAKE ONE OF THEM.

The Right Reverend Electric Mayhem

You want to see Paxton Lynch permanently disfigured more than I do. And that’s a lot

King Hippo

oh, and I am ok with a developmental guy in the 3rd/4th. And if all my targets are gone, Cam Robinson is reasonable I guess. If he flops at LT, he plays as a good G/C

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

“MY TARGETS”?

Get the fuck over yourself.

King Hippo

I mean, I’m just drunkenly bullshitting.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

“Yes, yes, don’t worry about the offensive line, it’s fine as it is.”

– Khalil Mack

King Hippo

Fix OL next year, these guys are 3rd rounders picked early because of positional scarcity. Poor value. They can run Siemien out there to be crippled, fuck that guy. 7-9 is 7-9

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Ok, that’s fucking brilliant.

King Hippo

Or, to be more specific…none of these tackles make the current 7-9 roster a playoff side, let alone a contender. So, get a real impact player somewhere else. We haven’t had a legit weapon at ILB or TE in several years, and these players fit the bill.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

No first round will. Better line play will help as much as anything else. Hippo knows more than the Donks? Really?

King Hippo

It’s a very bad OL class.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

OK Mel, yur the expart.

Redshirt

The 2nd coming of Tebow?

The Right Reverend Electric Mayhem

I thought he hadn’t even cum once?

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh
Redshirt

What QB does the Browns reach for?

Spur

Guy from Cal – Davis Webb

Spur

Otto Man will be wearing a Mahomes jersey by years end.

WCS

Or, making a noose out of one.

King Hippo

Little Column A, Little Column B

ThursdaySkyGoddess

The last homegrown Chief to give the team a W was Todd Blackledge (drafted in 1983) on September 13, 1987, a 20-13 victory at home against the San Diego Chargers.

Is Patrick Mahomes II going to ruin my favorite Chiefs fact?

Dick E. Phuck

The sequel outdoes the first Mahomes in every way.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

This can go either way tho!

Hot Lunch – While receiving head from a woman, you proceed

to shit on her chest. (A.k.a. the Cleveland Steamer)

litre_cola

This thread really makes me miss football to be honest.

scotchnaut

Huh. Did the Chiefs steal a qb from the Saints?

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Western Grip- When jerking off, turn your hand around, so

that your thumb is facing towards you. It is the same grip that rodeo folks use. Hence, western.

The Right Reverend Electric Mayhem

Not if Chocolate City wants Watson

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh
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Did the Chiefs’ stupid out-stupid the Bears’ stupid or

makeitsnowondem

Yeah. Hell yeah.

The Right Reverend Electric Mayhem

Not necessarily

makeitsnowondem

He looks like Jared Lorenzen got a lap band and an arm transplant.

Dick E. Phuck

Trey Wingo is a much better commentator than Berman, but to be fair, my balls would be a better announcer than Berman.

makeitsnowondem

What in God’s name is a Patrick Mahomes

WCS

Todd Blackledge The Sequel

Dick E. Phuck

Old Caribbean Pirate from the 17th century.

Spur

A GODDAMN STAR!

King Hippo

The most recent in a long line of non-descript 6-foot dudes who scramble behind poor OL and chuck it up FOAR grabs 60x a game in Lubbock. Why one would trade up for one…

Redshirt

Who. What did Human Kool-Aid Walrus do?

litre_cola

Can the Iggles get Lattimore?

The Right Reverend Electric Mayhem

If they do, Millilitre gets named Marshon. Regardless of gender

litre_cola

Mrs Cola said if the boy isn’t white I get to name him!

Spur

Shoots Fingers in the air
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The Right Reverend Electric Mayhem

Bold

WCS

Andy Reid’s favorite barbecue sauce flavor?