Your “Shut Up Liver, You’re Fine” Saturday Evening Open Thread & Broadcast Maps

Lotsa JV Footy earlier today.

Lotsa JV Footy later tonight.

Lotsa Varsity Footy Tomorrow.

I dunno about you, but my liver never recovered from last weekend.  And now here we are again.

But screw it.  Together, we can muddle thru it.

(sorry, I was talking to my beer again)

Speaking of the Varsity Footy varietals, here are your coverage maps for Sunday.

My biggest question in this window?  How the hell did they decide the pattern in middle America to toss LAC/JAX into?  Meh, could be worse for those folks.  They could have gotten CLE/DET

 

Does ColorAdo really care about the Ain’ts at the Jills?  Well, they’ve got legal weed so they’ll be fine either way.

 

Lotsa red here, thank goodness.  But I do feel sorry for the poor bastards living in SF and NY.

I mean just in general for having to live there.

Plus now they have to watch that  game.

Meh, better them than me.  They knew what they were getting into….fuck ’em.

Whut’s On Your Tee Vee Boxes Tonight?

NHL

  • Leafs @ Bruins – 7:00pmEST – TV: NHLN

Full Schedule

 

NCAA Football

  • New Mexico @ Tejas A&M – 7:00pmEST – TV: ESPNU
  • Purdue @ (25)Northwestern – 7:00pmEST – TV: ESPN2
  • (2)Alabama @ (16)Mississippi State – 7:00pmEST – TV: ESPN
  • Tulane @ ECU – 7:00pmEST – TV: CBSSN
  • Tennessee @ Mizzou – 7:30pmEST – TV: SECN
  • (6)TCU @ (5)Oklahoma – 8:00pmEST – TV: FOX
  • (3)Notre Dame @ (7)Miami – 8:00pmEST – TV: ABC
  • Arizona State @ UCLA – 9:30pmEST – TV: PAC12N
  • Oregon State @ Arizona – 10:15pmEST – TV: ESPN2
  • Wyoming @ Air Force – 10:15pmEST – TV: ESPNU
  • Boise State @ Colorado State – 10:30pmEST – TV: CBSSN

Full Schedule

 

NCAA Basketball

Not much to look at tonight after (almost) everyone played last night.  Unless you wanna watch Duke beat the shit out of Utah Valley on ESPN3, or Michigan beat the shit out of North Florida on B1GN.

Full Schedule

OK then, try to stay awake for all of the fun.  But even if you can’t, at least drink heavily first.

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Viva La Tabula Raza

What’s the standard response here? HAIL SHANK’LOR? Still in learning curve.

King Hippo

and Bama pays for not keeping ball off the hash

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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Viva La Tabula Raza

I dated a Jewish girl for a very long time. She liked wieners. Also a big Israel supporter.

JustStopDude

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herodotus450

Not sure if that’s a terrible call, or the worst call in the history of the universe.

King Hippo

now Bama can run the clock mostly out

JustStopDude

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King Hippo

if you are Mississippi State….the fuck not go for 4th and 3 there?

litre_cola

Is that some sort of euphemism for cousin sex?

Fronkenshteen

Yup

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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blaxabbath

David Boren, OU President, has creepy fucking eyes.

He’s gonna get #metoo’d before the season is over. Watch.

Brocky

http://www.notrelame.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/teo-shirt-300×300.jpg

So if everyone in the top 5 but Clemson loses, will they still keep Wisconsin out of the top 5?

JustStopDude

One would hope.

They haven’t played anyone.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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ballsofsteelandfury

Can I banner this?

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Via some tumblr blog……

Viva La Tabula Raza

Looks like The Lord is favoring the convicts over the Catholics. Fuck both of these teams, but fuck ND more.

King Hippo

sweet, Da U score again??

Viva La Tabula Raza

Pick 6. 27-0 going into the half.

King Hippo

THIS lost $100 makes me very happy. Just sweating the media hype out waiting for the motherfuckers to lose in the playoffs would have been torture.

Die in a fire, Brian Kelly.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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litre_cola

I can get behind this.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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litre_cola

I have questions about the Exclusive Candy samples.

Viva La Tabula Raza

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Viva La Tabula Raza

I only ever read this magazine back in the day for the early Stephen King short stories.

JustStopDude

I hate Lou Holtz.

The dude was shady as shit. At Arkansas, he was doing commercials for fucking Jesse Helms as a state employee. At Minnesota, he was doing recruitment violations (magically after he left the NCAA stepped in). At Notre Dame, recruiting violations (magically after he left the NCAA stepped in).

His general play book was to pull the Joe Pa defense and that it was always bad actors and not him directly doing the shady shit.

He goes to South Carolina and by this time, the NCAA actually did something to him while he was still coach and his fucking defense was “There was no money involved. No athletes were paid. There were no recruiting inducements. No cars. No jobs offered. No ticket scandal.”

Players weren’t going to class, were forced to participate in off season practices, and there was no institutional control…but thank Jesus no player got fucking paid.

He is the living embodiment of everything wrong with NCAA football. A rich, old fucker that made shitloads of money off the exploitation of athletes and whenever he got caught, everyone else got thrown under the bus to protect him.

King Hippo

yup!

laserguru

But Rick Pitino was framed!

King Hippo

had to be a very quick-exposure camera to catch him ,, imho

blaxabbath

Everyone involved with the NCAA is an actor. They’re all just characters in a story. Lou is as detached from the ethics of football-as-a-venue-to-make-good-young-men as any of us (note: we’re all absolutely terrible).

The worse thing you can ever do is believe anyone on TV.

King Hippo

Holtz is a bigger, louder hypocrite than the rest. I appreciate the straightforward honesty of a John Calipari, who mostly calls a spade a spade.

Senor Weaselo

I thought that was Chip Kelly when he was at Oregon.

JustStopDude

I don’t take issue for Lou getting into trouble.

All coaches, if they are successful at that level, are doing shady shit. And the NCAA rules are written in such a manner that any team could face sanctions for anything.

What I cannot tolerate if the fact he still to this day profits off this bullshit image of his.

Give me Nick Saban, who is open with the fact he is as evil as Dick Chaney over some fake ass bullshit. If Lou was in charge of Penn State, Sandusky would have still have gotten over a decade of protection while raping kids because Holtz runs a program the same fucking way that Joe Pa did.

laserguru

A selection of songs that made the new IPod cut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRshPCM9lhk

Romonobyl

I love their Christmas album.

King Hippo

“Jingle! Jingle! (Blood Down the Chimney)” will always be a sentimental favourite

laserguru

“Santa Got Eviscerated by a Reindeer” holds a special place for me.

laserguru

“Oh Holey Night” fits this new theme.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

The Three Kings not only raped Santa, Rudolph was next.

Romonobyl

But did you see how Rudy was dressed?

Romonobyl

I Saw Mama Gutting Santa Clause.

Senor Weaselo
Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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herodotus450

BOBROVSKY!
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Gratliff

Feels like an IT Crowd kind of night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ife-lJv2MKI

litre_cola

Have you watched Mascots?

Gratliff

Considered it, but never got around to it. Any good?

litre_cola

It isn’t as good as Best in Show but it has its moments for sure.

Fronkenshteen

Miss. St. is fucking LIVE!

herodotus450

Oooh doggy

Senor Weaselo

Live fantasy FanDraftDuelKings broadcast? Why would you do that, MSG?

King Hippo

engaging in self-abuse MOAR than usual?

Senor Weaselo

Not today mercifully. The Wooden Giants lead big over the Wooden, uh, whichever we have for the Kings.

King Hippo

Cowbells RB goes all Bruce Lee inside the 5

Fronkenshteen

Would this be the first time #s 1,2,& 3 all lost on the same day?

Senor Weaselo

Imagine if Son of Clem imploded too?

King Hippo

well, they went from 17-0 to 17-14 and FSU had the ball inside the Son o’ 25…and threw a pickerception on 1st play.

Yes, NC State had HOPE for getting back in the division race for all of ONE PLAY.

Senor Weaselo

You guys clearly can’t have nice things.

King Hippo

STORY OF MY LIFE

/post-1983

Senor Weaselo

Jimmer vs. Starbury in China! Who ya got?

King Hippo

STARBURNS!!

Viva La Tabula Raza

Been out of range for a while. Did Georgia even try?

King Hippo

More Auburn’s doing, in my view. Think that Iron Bowl in two weeks time will be something else.

litre_cola

I bet on Jorja therefore they lost. Blame me.

King Hippo

One thing am sure of…Cowbells easily have the fattest per capita fanbase of the season. I mean, they can’t find one normal looking human to put the camera on.

King Hippo

I worry, because I know Litre can beat me up. But…I just plunked $100 down on Wyoming to win straight up (+120), since I am going winless this window,

I mean, Wyoming can’t jinx me. It’s tha muthaland!!

/raises fist

Fronkenshteen

Ballgame.

King Hippo

where was this shitty Notre Dame two weeks ago??

King Hippo

Happy to have jinxed the Domers, feel bad re Bloodeyes.

Senor Weaselo

Bloodeyes are always the bridesmaids. First it was to the Smurfs, now in the Big X

blaxabbath

I seriously hope China locks away the 2nd Ball kid for like 10 years. Kids need to know the risk of not going directly to pro ball.

Also, his dad is annoying as shit.

Senor Weaselo

I was well-treated in China and it was grueling in our travel. Imagine Locked Up Abroad in China?

blaxabbath

Hey – don’t steal from three luxury stores during your visit then.

Senor Weaselo

Good thing I didn’t!

blaxabbath

I bought bitcoin last week. My brother got my mom in on it years ago then they stopped talking. Apparently my mom has been trying to cash it out for like three years without success. I finally got the necessary login info from my brother the other day — her $500 buy-in is valued at over $40k.

Fucking Boomers man….

ballsofsteelandfury

Yeah, but can she cash it?

blaxabbath

I hear she can. She’ll probably sit on it too long and then, only after Fox News reports that Trump has sent the DEA to raid the internet, will she try to unload it at $0.

herodotus450

If it was stored in a local wallet (as opposed to an website exchange) she probably also has a hefty chunk of bitcoin cash, which is also worth something.

blaxabbath

Is that the DARKWEB stuff? My brother was a pretty early adapter so I would expect his is in the wallet. Her’s may be in an exchange though. I don’t know what bitcoin cash is.

Funny story, the need to get $40K has, apparently, been adequate incentive that those two are going to lunch next week.

King Hippo

the Big 12-ish is so much fun

Mr. Ayo

Did they ban defenses?

King Hippo

let’s say “strongly discourage”

blaxabbath

As someone who just visited SF, I don’t feel sorry for those who live in SF.

NYC either — but that’s because those people are assholes and deserve that place.

ballsofsteelandfury

“Those people are assholes and deserve that place”

You speak, of course, of BOTH SF and NY, right?

blaxabbath

I think SF seems nice.

Romonobyl

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

King Hippo

LA v. SF is the oddest blood hatred I have EVAR come across. I just don’t get it.

ballsofsteelandfury

They hate us, we hate them. What’s not to get?

laserguru

A similar hatred is the San Diego v LA thing.

It’s like a little brother who regrets that big brother has sex and he doesn’t.

It’s cute.

blaxabbath

y’all can settle it on the NFL field…..

ballsofsteelandfury

The city is gorgeous. The people are awful.

Senor Weaselo

No, those are Long Island people!
/Lives a mile from the city line, but goddamn does that mile make a difference!

laserguru

I’ve noticed that my capacity for mass beer consumption has been greatly diminished with age.

Fuck it, I’m switching to vino.

Where my pinot noir at?

Romonobyl

Likewise, I’ve learned to appreciate some good grape myself lately. I’ve even had some that came in real glass bottles!

King Hippo

I like when I ask teh maitre’d to unscrew it for me

laserguru

I got an amazing deal on a bottle of Decoy 2015 today. It was on sale already plus I got 30% off by buying 6 bottles. This is like a 50 dollar bottle of wine retail and I got it for 15.99.

litre_cola

Duckhorn makes a kick ass drop. That price makes me angry because of what BIG GUBMNT makes me pay up here.

laserguru

Again, it does help being right here at the source as well.

Romonobyl

Um…suitable for gifting?

King Hippo

NO WAY

/not that I am moneyline-biased or sommet

King Hippo

all this time to plan, one might think they’d do something a little MOAR special for Satan’s 1,000th win other than fucking Utah Valley.

King Hippo

nope, just reacting to news crawler

laserguru

Spent 3 hours building the new IPod. Productivity!

Always fun to sort through over 5000 songs to find just the grind heavy brutal shit.

My ears will hate me even more.

Romonobyl

Amazon does take that shit pretty seriously from what I understand. You should get results.

laserguru

That’s pretty fucked up.

I’ve had this new IPod for a couple of years, it was a gift but the old one kept right on truckin’ until just a day or two ago.

It will be nice to get a music refresh. I seriously can’t exercise without it. You find yourself walking faster or lifting more when some crunchy industrial shit comes on.

Romonobyl

You haven’t had sex until you’ve done it to an Irish whaling song.

laserguru
Romonobyl

Exactly, imagine keeping pace with that!

laserguru

I would last my usual 3 minutes.

litre_cola

Hippo your poor gambling streak has spread. Utes are coming back on the Cougs. heh.
Need me some Wazzu, ASU +3, Wyoming.+2.5

King Hippo

crossing bourders, even

herodotus450

ppl forget Convict actually stands for confidence vict.

King Hippo

such a bullshit spot

Fronkenshteen

Got all the laundry and dishes done. Have a YUGE stockpot of turkey stock working its way up to a simmer. Little man is sawing toothpicks in the next room. I’ve got an ice cold six-pack in the fridge, a wonderfully strong sativa, and some decent muscle relaxers on hand. ND/Miami kicks off in 10. It’s a wonderful night to be alive!

litre_cola

I think you and I would get along great.

King Hippo

Iggles fans two

King Hippo

Tunisia and Morocco – better at Lesser Footy than the shit-ass USMNT. LMAO

litre_cola

Ireland average today.

King Hippo

Tell me Aereus Williams is somehow related to Aeneas Williams of old FOOTBAW St. Louis Cardinals fame?

King Hippo

u forgot 2 say no ofence ,, imo godbless

herodotus450

yahoo sprots spells it Aeris Williams, so I’m not sure he’ll make it past the first disk quarter.

herodotus450

Well that was a nice 40 seconds when Miss St. had a chance.

King Hippo

Prague trickle?

King Hippo

don’t encourage the lardasses

litre_cola

Marlon Mack or Crowell in my flex?

King Hippo

PPR – Mack, non – Crowell

herodotus450

Mackerel: broiled. Crow: slow braised.

King Hippo

Don’t be giving away too many secrets before Charlie Kelly’s (heavy on pictograms) cookbook comes out this spring!

Shogun Marcus

Lots of white sauces.

herodotus450

Mac Mackerel: The Mackerel recipe you know and love, but cooked in the leftover body oil of some body building hunks no homo. Perfect for cultivating mass.

King Hippo
litre_cola

But Hippo Eastern Europeans aren’t known for their xenophobia at all.

herodotus450

Is it still xenophobia after you annex the nation you dont like?

Gratliff

If there is one thing I’ve learned over the years, it’s that every country in Europe was garbage for the first half of the 20th century. A few excerpts from that scrawling endless post about the Ukrainian experience in World War Europe that I never finished:

So many words

Immediately following the war and the defeat of the Central Powers, Russia annuls the treaty and restarts the invasion of Ukraine, because fucking Russia, as Ukrainians declare independence as the Ukrainian People’s Republic. Meanwhile, the dissolution of Austria-Hungary leaves Poland independent for the first time since the late 18th century, and they want the rest of what they think they’re owed. On the same day in November, 1918, Poland stakes its claim on Eastern Galicia–A region carved out by the Austrian Empire that was ethnically predominantly Ukrainian, with a strong Pole minority–Ukrainians in the region declare independence as the West Ukrainian People’s Republic, and the Polish-Ukrainian War begins. After 8 months of back and forth momentum swings, Poland’s mechanized and armor divisions ultimately overpower the WURP, and Eastern Galicia is annexed.

MEANWHILE, France jumps in the game for no apparent reason with an anti-communist coalition combined with the White Russians, landing in Odessa and Sevastopol. They’re degraded by the White Russians and hated by the Ukrainians. They get their asses whooped by the Bolsheviks, and France fails to supply enough supplies or manpower to further sustain military conflict. So, they run away. France, ladies and gentlemen. The Soviets are pissed and redouble their efforts to take Ukraine until the White Russians could recover and start launching attacks elsewhere. EVEN MORE MEANWHILE, Russia decides you can never have quite enough concurrent wars, and begins the Polish-Soviet War in response to the actions taken in Eastern Galicia.

Similar to the deal with the Central Powers, the URP is on the brink again, and sign the Treaty of Warsaw with Poland, creating a united front against the Soviets at the cost of most of Ukraine’s sovereignty. After defeating the Soviets in the Battle of Warsaw in October of 1921, Poland unilaterally signs the Peace of Riga, winning the entirety of Eastern Galicia with its millions of Ukrainians and its relatively tiny Polish population. With Poland out of the picture, the Soviets easily rout the remaining URP forces, solidifying the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. By the end of 1922, the civil war between the Bolsheviks and the White Russians would end, and the Soviets would have a stranglehold on everything east of Poland.

Ukrainians in Eastern Galicia felt rightfully betrayed following the Peace of Riga as the Treaty of Warsaw prohibited unilateral peace agreements. It goes about as well as you’d expect. Poland enforced assimilation and repression to deal with the massive Ukrainian population, eventually outlawing their language. When the Great Depression reached Europe, resources going to the Ukrainian parts of the country dried up. As anti-Polish sentiment grew in the predominantly Ukrainian areas, ethnic hatred and violence against Poles in the region flared up, and the Ukrainians would begin re-establishing ties with Weimar Republic (Pre-Nazi Germany) and the Soviets. By 1930, separatist groups were growing in size and started using typical terrorist tactics against Poles and the Ukrainians that were willing to live peacefully alongside them. Poland’s response was the Pacification of Ukrainians in Eastern Galicia. This is your typical cultural suppression movement. Homes and property searched and destroyed, schools closed, residents beaten and arrested on false charges, witch hunts, etc. The police would start by surrounding a Ukrainian village and call out the elder, ordering him to have his people remain in their homes during the inspection. They would then begin the systematic shakedowns. People who resisted were publicly flogged. If the village resisted, they would be faced with heavier taxation and forced soldier quartering.

So, what was happening in the Ukraine SSR? Well, if you’ve ever argued with a pepe on Twitter you’ve probably heard a reference to this one. From 1932 to 1933, Soviet Ukraine was devastated by Holodomor (death by hunger). The man-made Ukraine Famine inflicted upon the Ukrainians by the Soviets would claim the lives of some 3,000,000+ residents. Some estimates of casualties that include the long-term effects of starvation on a country have the estimates at nearly 10,000,000, putting it on par with the actual fucking Holocaust. All farms in the Ukraine SSR were considered collectivist farms, which was enforced by armed Soviet military stationed near each farming community. Fences and barbed wire and armed guards protected the fields. Struggling to feed Russians, Soviets confiscated ~12 million tons of crops from Ukrainian farms, while slowly cutting rations for the Ukrainians themselves down to nothing, starting in the rural areas, and finally in the population centers. Perhaps even more horrifically, the Soviet system for transporting goods was horribly ineffective, meaning tons of food rotted during transport, and more still rotted in the fields while starving women and children looked on in despair. Any attempt to procure the food for yourself was guaranteed execution.

Cannibalism was widespread during this time, as thousands were convicted of the act. Black markets selling human body parts sprung up across the country. Soviet flyers were distributed throughout the country pleading with parents to not eat their dead children. Possessing seeds was punishable by death. Soviet guards feeding Ukrainians or showing any discontent with the genocide were executed. So why were Soviet citizens and guards so willing to let this continue? Agitprop. Lots and lots of agitprop. As previously mentioned, the Soviets were terrible at this. Their people were underfed, and people in other Soviet territories were also starving. The response–seemingly the only response Soviets were capable of–was to canvas the USSR with propaganda claiming the Ukrainian farmers were stealing and hoarding the crops, calling the theft the real cannibalism taking place in Soviet Union. In the United States and eastern Europe, pro-Communist groups denied it was taking place. Attempts to bring attention to it by Ukrainian expats and sympathizers were met with violent counter-protests. To this day, the United States does not recognize it as an act of genocide. (See: Armenian Genocide, Rape of Nanking, Native American Genocide)

. . .

World War II starts on September 1, 1939, as the Nazis begin the blitzkrieg against Poland. The Wehrmacht spends the next month pounding the Polish into submission. The Soviets join the fray on September 17, the day after signing a treaty ending the Japanese Border War. Poland is fucked, caught between two massive enemies, neither of which they could defeat separately, let alone on two fronts. On October 6, the German-Soviet Frontier Treaty is signed, dividing Poland between the two, and returning Eastern Galicia to soviet rule. During this time, Ternopil Oblast (mentioned way the fuck back in the second paragraph) is established. Ukrainians in the area, having gone through the Ukrainian Pacification, welcome the Soviets as liberators. This fantasy dissolves almost immediately as the Soviets begin a witch hunt for traitors as revenge against Ukrainians who fought with Poland and defected after the Peace of Riga. Anyone they decide is a traitor gets the fun-filled and short-lived experience of being exiled to Siberia, regardless of whether they’re Ukrainian or Polish.

Fast-forward two years (Look at all these fucking words. Fucking right we’re jumping ahead.) and Germany is ready to unleash hell on the Soviet Union. They launch Operation Barbarossa, the largest military operation in human history at 3:15 am on June 22, 1941. The attack begins by launching air raids against cities in Soviet-controlled Poland as roughly three million German soldiers attack the border, with fifth columnists from Lithuania and Ukraine joining their ranks. Eight days later, the Nazi army has pushed the Soviets all the way back into Kiev. Within two months, Kiev falls and the Soviets retreat back to Russia, and Reichskommissariat Ukraine begins in earnest.

The history of Ukraine during the holocaust is horrific for a number of reasons. Firstly, holocaust, obviously. Three million residents were murdered in Reichskommissariat Ukraine, of which about 950,000 were Jewish, with another 500-700k Jews brought in from other areas. Secondly, decades of endless war and atrocity and hatred created an insane amount of division even among ethnic Ukrainians. Loyalties and agendas were radically different. Many Ukrainians voluntarily joined the Nazi forces. Roughly 100,000 Ukrainians volunteered to be police under the komissariat. Many would serve as members of Jewish death squads, presumably not knowing that Hitler’s blueprint for Ukraine involved the extermination of 65% of ethnic Ukrainians as part of his Lebensraum vision. These groups would be used in some of the most horrific atrocities of the war. They were actively involved in the Babi Yar ravine massacre in September 1941, where almost 34,000 Jews were systematically executed over the course of 2 days. It’s hard to know exactly how many were truly willing. No shortage of people joined at gunpoint or under threat of going to the camps themselves. Also likely is that many joined as an attempt to protect their families.

Back in Ternopil Oblast, the Nazis established the Tarnopol Ghetto, which was a fucking horror show. There they would house and handle the nearly 20k Jews that lived in Ternopil Oblast at the start of Operation Barbarossa. Within the first week, 2,000 of them were dead. In August 1942, they initiated the ghetto liquidation procedures in coordination with the Belzec extermination camp to the northwest. The first liquidation occurred when 3k-4k Jews were loaded into cattle cars on a train bound for Belzec. The train never left the station. With no food or water, the doors to the cattle cars were locked, and the train remained stationary. For two days, men, women, and children died a slow, agonizing death, screaming for release or mercy. They received neither. Eventually, a second train arrived with prisoners from other regions nearby. They were connected, and transported to Belzec. Nearly 7,000 died before ever seeing the camp. A second holocaust train arrived in November, taking 2,500 Jews to Belzec to be murdered. Multiple other extermination events took place until the ghetto had been completely liquidated by June 1943, including a shooting massacre in Petrykowo, where roughly 2,500 Jews were gunned down by German and Ukrainian police. As if these atrocities weren’t horrific enough, independent Ukrainian death squads organized by nationalists would murder 1,600 Polish Christians in 1944 before the Soviets had a chance to retake the region.

tl;dr

The history of eastern Europe is super fucked. There’s a billion ways to rationalize Extreme Fascist Views Are Good over there.

King Hippo

yup, this is all consistent with my (barely scratching the surface) readings

ballsofsteelandfury

This is a great reminder for dipshits that are SHOCKED about anything in today’s political world.

Shit has been and can still be a lot worse than what we are experiencing now.

Spur

What’s the point of Red Zone tomorrow afternoon??

litre_cola

No commercials.

King Hippo

I will not stand for speaking ill of teh RedZone!!

Spur

Catholics are going to go medieval on the Miami ass.

Gratliff

But they’re of age

King Hippo

imagination will be used

/like Sandusky in the showers nowadays

Gratliff

Cleveland-Detroit? Sweet Jesus kill me now

litre_cola

Grat I should have the Eagles bye post done by tomorrow. I will send it to you so you can escape Cleveland -Detroit.

litre_cola

Gamblor is not good to me today. I wonder what I did to anger him.

King Hippo

your imaginary association with Hippo?

Senor Weaselo

Eh, Browns-Jets didn’t kill me.

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