Sexy Friday, One day/month/week before Summer 2021 edition

According to the calendar, June 21 is the official start of Summer in the Northern Hemisphere as well as the longest day in the year.

HOWEVAH, the defacto start of summer in the United States is always Memorial Day Weekend, which is next weekend. US summers run from Memorial Day Weekend to Labor Day Weekend.

In fact, here is a handy guide to the US seasons:

  • Memorial Day to Labor Day = Summer Season
  • Labor Day to Valentine’s Day = Football Season
  • Valentine’s Day to Spring Break = Winter Fuck You Weather Season
  • Spring Break to Memorial Day = Spring Season

I am told by the reliable Canadian sources on this here site that the defacto start of Summer in Canada is always May 2-4 Weekend, which coincides with Victoria Day (as Queen Victoria was born on May 24th) and is celebrated the Monday before May 25th which is THIS WEEKEND. Our lovable neighbors call it 2-4 Weekend because of the obligatory 24 bottles of beer that one must purchase and consume this weekend. I believe it is Canadian law or something.

If any of our resident Canadians can assist with a handy guide to Canadian seasons similar to what I wrote above, I would greatly appreciate it!

Did we get enough pictures from you to fill out a page? We sure as hell did not! Seriously, you guys need to step up your perv game. You’re making me work, dammit!

This week, I have decided to go with a theme with the girl pictures as well as the sounds. Let’s see if you can figure it out.

Without further ado, TO THE TITS AND ASSES!

For those of you prudes that don’t like cheesecake or beefcake, click HERE to skip to the music videos.

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Without further ado, here are the Top Twenty Five Pics of The Week:

Balls’ Pic O’ the Week!

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YOU’RE-A-PRUDE

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And now, for the music!

As I mentioned before, I’ve decided that I must take up the mantle that tWBS ran with and help to make this world a better place. I will do this in the one way he couldn’t: By introducing you to good music!

Today we are back to the puzzles! As always, I will give up to three hints in the comments at your request. You try to determine the hidden theme or link between all the songs. Good luck!

Song Number One:

The Airborne Toxic Event – Sometime Around Midnight

Canción Número Dos:

Garbage – #1 Crush

Chanson Numéro Trois:

Green Day – When I Come Around

Canzone numero quattro:

Green Day – American Idiot

Canção número cinco

Green Day – Wake Me Up When September Ends

Seigarren zenbakia:

Green Day – Time of Your Life

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That’s all for this week, folks! Be good to each other and try to stay the fuck away from stupid people. That’s not COVID-19 advice, that’s just general good sense. See you next week!

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BrettFavresColonoscopy

This Adelaide Melbourne game is almost as good as my booze game tonight

Beerguyrob

Fewer bitters I imagine.

TheRevanchist

We will be heading to Lake Tahoe in 3 weeks. Should be a pleasant drive north. Just checked the weather, though. It’s snowing there right now.

Dunstan

I’ve been meaning to get back up there. Beautiful area.

yeah right

That is a nice ride. If you stay next to the river it’s beautiful all the way to Reno.

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TheRevanchist

Notice how you say “to Reno” and not “in Reno”, the pawn shop capital of the world.

Horatio Cornblower

Is it me, or is the 3rd girl from the top sporting a Stars ‘n Bars tattoo?

Mr. Ayo

I will not tolerate the denigration of the Doors in the earlier thread. This song, indeed the entire album, is great. All opinions to the contrary are wrong and not acceptable in this forum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeMlQEWEg2Q

TheRevanchist

I’m sure they are practically gods in Kazakhstan or Botswana or Des Moines.

Mr. Ayo

I’m a moron and don’t get this. Anyone want to help?

TheRevanchist

That is 10,000 x’s more coherent than anything Hippo says.

Beerguyrob

I referred to The Doors, in today’s & previous music threads, as “hippie dog shit”. Many others agreed.

Beerguyrob

I am watching the Halston miniseries on Netflix with WineWife and I have to say…it’s not bad.

Ewan McGregor spends ten minutes per episode gets railed by large dudes, so there’s that too.

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Doktor Zymm

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Nowhere to go but up or down

Gumbygirl

I have to go, goodnight everyone, it has been fun today! Have a safe and wonderful trip Zym!

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Doktor Zymm

Cheers! Will see you in a week and change! Sleep tight 🙂

Doktor Zymm

We don’t wear costumes as everyday clothes, we can’t dance, mom jeans are trendy as fuck, and our drugs are even crap. I’m sad for the youth of today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1LP81eSKY

litre_cola

Hahahahhahaha suck my balls Edmonton. (Always)

/am Calgary resident butbfrom Winnipeg.

BC Dick

Both teams are Atlanta’s trash

Doktor Zymm

Give the man a wireless mic!

Mr. Ayo

I’m sure this would have been better with no pants as well.

Doktor Zymm

He did well considering the German penchant for pantshaben

Dunstan

I roller skated to this song many times.

“But when his drinking, and his lusting, and his hunger for power, became more and more outrageous… the demands to do something about this man became louder and louder.”

Doktor Zymm

The lyrics are solid. I’m impressed with their rhyming of “Rasputin” with “love machine.”

Horatio Cornblower

I’m sure it sounds better in the original Russian.

Mr. Ayo

You should inform Hawthorne post-haste the match has commenced.

Brick Meathook

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Brick Meathook

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Mr. Ayo

Can’t wait to get back to the NYC subways this year.

Brick Meathook

DING DING DING DING!

SonOfSpam

something something your mom

Brick Meathook

don’t hate me because i’m beautiful

Mr. Ayo

What’s the difference between a 9B and a 9A?

One has an ass, the other has boobs, and both are way out of my league.

Beerguyrob

I wanted tea, but I also wanted alcohol. Luckily, I had an option.

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Mr. Ayo

Pleasing to filling out required fields here.

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Doktor Zymm

Big dudes, small instruments, happiness. YES.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z26BvHOD_sg

Doktor Zymm

Plus he’s just a legit dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkD50BwWShs

Dunstan

For a non-frog, that’s a good version of that song.

SonOfSpam

This, uh, shoulda been on Rikki’s post.

Doktor Zymm

You are 100% correct, I am too late and a post short

SonOfSpam

Eh, you’re mentally on another continent. All forgiven.

Mr. Ayo

*holds envelope to head*

My ideal girlfriend’s credo!

Doktor Zymm

I think Mazzy Star and Rick Astley are some sort of related. They’re both far too small for their voices.

Mr. Ayo

Both are certified stage 5 clingers.

One’s never going to give you up while the other is fading into you.

Doktor Zymm

THE EVIDENCE SPEAKS

Horatio Cornblower

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Horatio Cornblower

Speaking of the Whalers, here’s the most-well known item about their former venue, the Hartford Civic Center.
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In 1978 it collapsed due to the weight of ice and snow after 10 days of storms. The roof caved in 5-6 hours after a UConn basketball game which, at the time, if the collapse occurred during the game, might have resulted in the death of literally dozens of people.

The Civic Center is still there, hosting minor league hockey and any UConn sport that attracts more than a couple of people, (because UConn athletics new core goal is reviving Hartford), and the roof is still flat, but thanks to global warming we don’t have to worry about snow accumulating to those kinds of weights.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

The suggestion that Draymond Green’s foul on Ja Morant was flagrant is ludicrous. Green doesn’t commit dirty fouls to the head and neck region. He just doesn’t.
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Beerguyrob

Ooh, that was a pretty Smashville goal.

Mr. Ayo

I should have warned everyone that I was getting up for the first time in 2 hours.

Horatio Cornblower

Not gonna lie, I could use a cigarette and a refractory period after that one.

Horatio Cornblower

“Cousins looking to score” is absolutely something I expect to hear at a game played in Tennessee.

Horatio Cornblower

Oh, are we going to talk ‘franchise history’ of the Carolina Hurricanes, Mr. Announcer Man?

Hang on whole I make myself another drink out of horse piss and gasoline, because

http://i.imgur.com/tNajsIb.png

SonOfSpam

Hey, did you know they used to play in Hartford?

That’s in Connecticut, maybe even the capital.

I heard they moved because the fans were too laconic.

Dunstan

I’m all for some 80s nostalgia, but seriously, they’ve been in Carolina longer and with more success. It’s like if they obsessed about how the Flames used to be in Atlanta before Calgary.

Doktor Zymm

I forgot about that! Wasn’t it an Olympic thing? Remember the Atlanta Olympics “bombing”? Only someone learning their bombing skills off the rudiments of the internet could make such a shitty bomb, ah, those were days alright

Horatio Cornblower

90’s nostalgia, thank you very much. And it doesn’t have to make sense. They took my team. I love the Yankees, I tolerate the Cowboys, I fucking bled the Whalers.

Dunstan

Anyone who actually cheered for the Whalers I exempt. It’s the Johnny-come-latelies who pretend to be nostalgic that irritate me.

Horatio Cornblower

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Horatio Cornblower

We sucked so bad. You have no idea. Outnumbered every time the Bruins or Rangers came in. The other team’s fans chanting ‘You play in a shopping mall, doo-dah, doo-dah’, or, when we’d chant ‘1940’ at the Rangers for their then most recent Stanley Cup, ’19-Never’ in response.

God I miss them so.

Viva La Tabula Raza

Well, whaling as a commercial enterprise is pretty passe. They could have moved up the road to Springfield MA and changed their name to the Whippersnappers.

Horatio Cornblower

Springfield had an AHL team at the time. Might have been the Falcons.

Worcester had an AHL team a while ago, still might. Once they came to Hartford to play the Wolfpack, (Rangers affiliate that took over for the Whalers), and my brother and I antagonized one of their players to the point that he was banging on the penalty box glass and pointing at us.

It’s funny because he would have absolutely destroyed us.

ArmedandHammered

Look, none of us plebians down here even knew what hockey was, other than by playing Blades of Steel, so it was not like we begged them to move here. Please place all your justifiable hate on Bettman where it belongs.

Horatio Cornblower

You sent me free beer, so you and your shall be spared when I take my rightful place at the right hand of the Lord and impose my will on this Earth.

It’s basically gonna be doughnuts, beer, and sports for everyone who isn’t an asshole, and the assholes all get sent to Venus.

I shall be a benevolent, somewhat sleepy, and definitely heavily buzzed, ruler.

ArmedandHammered

Will you be turning all Trump Republicans and their voters into fecally incontinent weasels all confined in a rather small and hot space?

Horatio Cornblower

I might send them to Mercury. As I understand it, Mercury doesn’t rotate, so there’s a flaming hot side facing the Sun, and then a freezing cold side facing away from the Sun. Using what I laughingly call “logic”, I figure there’s probably a habitable zone, (oxygen, who needs it, amirite?), roughly 3′ wide in the middle, and those fuckers can elbow each other around trying to fit into it.

Mr. Ayo

In totally unrelated business, how’s the weather on Venus?

Horatio Cornblower

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You’ll want to bring shorts.

Maybe an umbrella.

Mr. Ayo

That looks pleasant.

Horatio Cornblower

Eh, it’s a dry heat.

(like 847 degrees F: it’ll melt lead)

ArmedandHammered

Actually, I thought it rained sulfuric acid there.

Mr. Ayo

That’s why he suggested the umbrella. Duh.

Horatio Cornblower

https://phys.org/news/2016-12-weather-venus.html

You are correct, Sir!

Venusian weather is fucking wild. Apparently they Soviets managed to land a couple of missions on the surface. Both landers lasted for a very short period of time before Venus just crushed them. If you noodle around on the internet you can hear about 20 minutes of sound from Venus.

It’s sounds like static to me, which was weird, because I was expecting the endless screaming of the damned.

Dunstan

Drink update:
the God Save the Queen was surprisingly good
Three Dots and a Dash was fine but not likely to be repeated
Caipirinha seemed a little strong at first, but finished nicely

I did buy a bunch of mint, so a mojito is not out of the question.

SonOfSpam

Where are you, vomit-wise? 3 drinks away? 6?

Dunstan

Oh, surely more than six.

Drink #4 is my own version of a Brazilian Mojito — lime, simple syrup, mint, cachaca, falernum, sparkling water

Doktor Zymm

For the rum drinks…using light rum? I don’t mind mixing light and dark in one session, but I know not everyone goes there, and cachaca is def light and rumesque

ArmedandHammered

No self respecting Southern Gentlemen would allow for the mixing of dark and light, wait, this is about rum, still any miscegenenation should not be tolerated, even of alcohol.

Horatio Cornblower

That’s like, at best, 3/5 of a legitimate drink.

ArmedandHammered

Well anything that is a possible Trumper belief can never actually make any sense.

Dunstan

You forgot to log in as Cecil Rhodes

Dunstan

The God Save the Queen I used a dark rum, Ron Zacapa from Guatamala.

Three Dots was a combo of rhum agricole (Clement) and Zacapa

Mixing dark and light rums is hardly going to faze me; there’s a decent chance I switch to red wine tonight.

Gumbygirl

Oh hell no. That would put me in a coma, after I yakked my guts all over the bathroom floor. I will stick with my weed, it never hurts me!

Horatio Cornblower

It occurs to me that Carolina is likely the only team that didn’t notice a dip in regular season attendance during Covid.

Also, fuck Carolina.

Mr. Ayo

I don’t understand how there’s three (3) hockey games on and I’m only able to watch a studio show.

This is obviously the result of the international disgrace Gary Bettman.

Mr. Ayo

Oh look at that. NHLN has the Avs/Blues game now.

Doktor Zymm

Cold injera is subpar

Gumbygirl

My niece and some of her vaccinated friends are having a mini-prom tonight. They are going out on a dinner and dancing cruise from Long Beach. Better than nothing!

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Doktor Zymm

Aw, that’s nice 🙂

Gumbygirl

It is! These poor kids have missed so much. She’s off to the University of Maryland in the fall. Journalism and Poly Sci.Her twin brother is going to Dakota State for Cybersecurity.

Doktor Zymm

UMCP? She should join the equestrian club!

Gumbygirl

Yes! I can’t picture her on a horse. She’s a theater kid, she and that boy in the picture played Morticia and Gomez in the Addams Family musical last year before all hell broke loose.

Doktor Zymm

Don’t know if it’s still going, but UMCP used to have a theater troupe that did Rocky Horror every year! And actually….I know a couple alums who are still in the DC theater scene, don’t know if they have any idea what’s happening on campus any more, but maybe could at least hook her up with some free tickets to a show or two in the city 🙂

Gumbygirl

Oh my God, she would love that! She applied to 12 schools, got accepted to 11 and waitlisted the other. She is graduating with a 4.8 gpa, International Baccalaureate diploma. Very smart, this kid is going places. Her brother is very bright too, but he has always been a little bit in her shadow. Their moms did the right thing and sent them to different high schools, so he had to get out of his comfort zone. He is on the spectrum, barely, but social stuff is difficult for him. A smaller school is perfect for him, we are very happy he chose Dakota State.

Doktor Zymm

Sounds like it’s all working out, despite the Covid year! I’ll be incommunicado for the next week and a half, but message me at some point and I’ll see what my DC theater friends are up to

Gumbygirl

I will, thanks!

Mr. Ayo

That’s more prom than I had. Good for them!

King Hippo

Mark Sanchez has really missed Prom Night the last few years…

Horatio Cornblower

/Mark Chmura has entered the chat
//and the hot tub

Dunstan

///and half the prom attendees

BrettFavresColonoscopy

tWBS tribute theme?

Mr. Ayo

JFC, another Spur burner account!

Horatio Cornblower
BrettFavresColonoscopy

This might be the worst thing I’ve ever seen:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPI2tMxBCa3/?utm_medium=copy_link

Doktor Zymm

That….is not what that stands for

SonOfSpam

Not gonna lie, made me chuckle.

scotchnaut

So, the Tim Horton’s Drive Thru jokester followed up her ‘gagged on a ball’ joke with, “Why are Koala bears not really bears? Because they’re not Koalafied!” What is her end goal as far as these back and forth jokes are concerned? Gonna have to re-read “Theory of Games and Economic Behavior” before I interact with her again. She is a puzzle for sure!

Horatio Cornblower

This is like the season of ‘Dexter’ where he met that other serial killer and they tried to trap and kill the other one.

Or so I assume: I never actually watched the show.

Doktor Zymm

Toss in a dirty joke about Minnie Mouse and see where it goes

scotchnaut

-Sun Tzu, giving advice

TheRevanchist

Is it you she does this for, or everyone? If just you, you have a friend. If not, you just enjoy the drive thru and don’t waste time questioning the small bits of joy thrown your way.

King Hippo

I can’t believe I am still awake – without a midday nap – at nigh 10p on a fookin’ Friday!

Mr. Ayo

Well you don’t have to get up early to watch Everton put a stake through your pill addled heart.

Doktor Zymm

It’s almost 7 am in Mumbai right now!

SonOfSpam

We have four seasons in Southern California:

Thanksgiving to March 1: Bring a hoodie just in case, still wearing shorts
March 1 to June 30: It’s perfect outside, no one wears socks
July 1 to Labor Day: (shrug) It’s a dry heat, no one wears pants
Labor Day to Thanksgiving: Everything is on fire

Gumbygirl

I was wearing a tshirt yesterday. Today we have snow flurries and I’m about to light a fire.

SonOfSpam

In Big Bear?

Wacky! Beautiful and breezy down the hill.

Doktor Zymm

Mountains add an x-factor

scotchnaut

You wore a tshirt? What’s it like being a heretic?

Doktor Zymm

It’s about the same where I am in the Bay Area, except all the people who are from here wear puffy coats instead of hoodies over the ‘winter’

Game Time Decision

Canadian season as near Toronto

Summer = May 24 to laboUr day. Aka hockey playoffs should end soon
Fall = laboUr day to Halloween aka hockey starts
Winter= Halloween to Easter aka moar hockey
Spring. Easter to May 24. Aka hockey playoffs start

With the whole climate change, it stays warmer longer now so spring and fall are a bit longer.

Doktor Zymm

Hockey hasn’t been the same since they extended the season. If they’ve already shut down the outdoor rinks in Chicago, it’s the wrong damn time of year to be playing a winter sport.

ArmedandHammered

Hopefully the weather stays mild here in Raleigh as the Hurricane’s ice really deteriorates when it gets hot outside.

Dunstan

Summer = Leafs fans try to figure out what went wrong last spring
Fall = Leafs fans convince themselves this is the year
Winter = Leafs fans insufferable
Spring = Leafs crap out in the playoffs again

It’s a beautiful cycle.

Game Time Decision

Leaf fans are insufferable all year round

Dunstan

I accept the friendly amendment from the honourable gentleman

Brick Meathook

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ArmedandHammered

So glad I have not seen any yet here in Raleigh. But I think I have to actually leave the house to have a chance to see them.

Doktor Zymm

All my Maryland friends are talking about them. I’m kinda jealous I’m missing the mild excitement, although I don’t remember there being all that many of them last time around. Must be a hell of a life, gestating underground for 17 years just to act like a blind drunk college kid (scream, fuck, run into stuff, pass out and die) for a couple weeks.

ArmedandHammered

I’m a cicada bro!

Mr. Ayo

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SonOfSpam

ZOT FUCKING ZOT WOOOOOOOOOO

King Hippo

As a fellow Greater Raleigh resident, there is no good goddamned reason to leave the house from May-August (ie, swampass season)

Brick Meathook

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Gumbygirl

I’m old enough to remember using Penna in my address rather than PA. I’m old enough.

Brick Meathook

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scotchnaut

These sorta pics really interrupt the conversations that the rest of us are trying to have.

ArmedandHammered

This is a cool picture, makes me want to travel before the airports fully reopen.

Doktor Zymm

You’re already too late. There are still significantly fewer flights, but the airports have filled up quite a bit in the last few months. It’s a far cry from last summer.

ArmedandHammered

Dammit. The airport is my second most hated thing about air travel.

Doktor Zymm

Don’t get me wrong, it’s still not up to pre-pandemic crowds and that aspect is quite enjoyable. You might not want to listen to me though, because I’m a weirdo who really likes most (definitely not all) airports.

ArmedandHammered

I have “issues” with being in crowded areas. Just going to Costco can have me in an extremely anxious state. Airports are worse than Costco for crowds and noise.

Brick Meathook

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Mr. Ayo

This just looks like it’ll collapse in 2 seconds.

Brick Meathook

Opened in 1962.

Mr. Ayo

Any moment now.

Brick Meathook

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Mr. Ayo

Not helping the whole collapsing theory.

Brick Meathook

Eero Saarinen’s other airport:

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Mr. Ayo

That one fucking rules.

Doktor Zymm

I was impressed with how well this works as a hotel

Doktor Zymm

Great airport, or the GREATEST airport?

Mr. Ayo

This really highlights the uneveness of the floor.

Horatio Cornblower

I can’t root for Washington, because they employ that psychopath Tom Wilson, but Jesus, listening to Jack Edwards celebrating is just a bridge too fucking far.

Dunstan

To paraphrase Churchill, if the Bruins played the Demons of Hell in the playoffs, I should make a favorable reference to Satan.

Doktor Zymm

Are the Demons of Hell a different team than the Devils of New Jersey? Those seem synonymous

ArmedandHammered

I think he actually meant the Bruins.

Dunstan

Yeah, New Jersey did kind of fuck up the joke I was going for.

Let me put it this way. If the Bruins somehow played the Patriots, I would root for the Patriots. That’s how much I hate them.

Mr. Ayo

/silently judges Dunstan

scotchnaut

/Speaking of music-related thingy’s

About ten days ago (quite recently anyway) I was yakking with a young ‘un about inventory levels when “Love In An Elevator” by Aerosmith began playing on the radio in the back of the warehouse

Me: “God, I hate Aerosmith, they really suck.”

Young Fella: [raises eyebrows] “Really?”

Me: [realizes he’s a fan of the band, says with a straight face] “Well, actually, ‘Stairway To Heaven’ is a pretty good song.”

Young Fella: “Uh…”

/Judging by his facial features I hit the sweet spot right between, “Is my boss fucking with me?” and “My boss is so fucking dumb”.

//did I mention that I love fucking with people?

ArmedandHammered

I think the picture theme is the professions where TWBS would always try to pick up the women working said profession.

ArmedandHammered

Or the professions of the women who have restraining orders against TWBS.

Mr. Ayo

You’ve described a Venn diagram that’s just a circle.

Doktor Zymm

I am OFFICIALLY ON VACATION and less than 24 hours away from getting on my first international flight since Feb 2020! I’m packed, have duplicate copies of my negative Covid test, my apartment is mostly clean, and all I have to do tomorrow is water my plants. This seems like an excellent occasion to finish off the last of my NPR rosé 🙂

Game Time Decision

Safe travels

Mr. Ayo

Congrats! Enjoy that sunshine.

ArmedandHammered

Have a great time!

scotchnaut

I’M GOING TO BLIND RIVER TOMORROW!*

*40 minutes away, might not be comparable, in any way whatsoever**

**I’m just trying to fit in!

Doktor Zymm

That sounds fun too!

Dunstan

That’s where all the blind hobos hang out. It’s easy pickings.

ArmedandHammered

I just realized why I have the song Moon River in my head, this comment for some reason cued it up and pressed play.

Gumbygirl

Woohoo, you go (to the Maldives) intrepid travelling girl! Have a great vacation!

Horatio Cornblower

I’m not sure if it’s been guessed, because like some people around here I can’t be bothered to scroll down, but the theme has to be some variation of “Seamus’s Shitty Songs”

Mr. Ayo

I didn’t realize Spur had a burner account.

Dunstan

Stocked up on rum and fresh fruit. Theme for the night:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8uWJUhQciQ

scotchnaut

Love this tune. “I’m yelling at the kids in the back cause they’re banging like Charlie Watts”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UrueP3aM40&ab_channel=HiattHouse

Dunstan

I’m sure I had heard of him before, but this was how he really came to my attention:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMeAeFUPr_A

scotchnaut

I think I’ve got the theme. Seamus is dancing to these tunes while chatting up the receptionist that is manning the desk at Purgatory?

Mr. Ayo

I think it’s just the terrible songs that he “generously” shared here.

Dunstan

Hey, I thought you guys led him out of Purgatory!

I hate retcons….

Horatio Cornblower

Certainly a safer bet than anything Litre or Hippo will come up with.