Your “But You Said I Could…” Wednesday Evening Open Thread

NFL News:  

  • The Patriots are being investigated over Patrick Chung’s concussion in Sunday’s loss to the Swags.
    • He was initially cleared on the sidelines, but after the half was removed from the game for further checks.
    • The League & union are investigating if all the proper protocols were followed.
  • Jameis Winston & his grabby hands are now being sued in civil court over his grabbing of the Uber driver.
    • She is seeking damages in excess of $75,000 because of the “damages in the nature of emotional distress and future therapy expenses.”
      • She says she pursued the civil case because of his refusal to accept responsibility for the incident, deflecting any blame that comes his way. Suing him will force him to own his behaviour.
    • Her lawyer is the same one who represented the woman Winston allegedly assaulted at FSU.
  • The Eagles have brought back Jordan Matthews.
    • Due to losing half their receivers in only two weeks.
    • He was available because he was cut by the Patriots in August.
  • In a choice that would’ve made more sense if the game was on NBC, “The Voice” star Adam Levine will be taking his band Maroon 5 to Atlanta to be the Super Bowl LIII halftime show.
    • It does make sense from an entertainment perspective, because Atlanta is a musical wasteland.

Finally, there’s already some dissension in the ranks after yesterday’s Hall of Famers letter about getting paid.

  • Leader of the retired players pushing this cause, Eric Dickerson came out & said each Hall member should receive $300,000 per year.
    • Given the number of living Hall members, that adds up to about $95 million per year.
    • He also wants survivor benefits, which is why they got Reggie White’s widow to sign on.
  • Jerry Rice & Kurt Warner have said they are against a boycott, and that their support for the letter was about improved benefits for retired players.
    • Dickerson has apologized for taking liberties with their names & the letter.
      • His defense comes down to, “I was trying to make a point.”

Tonight’s sports:

  • MLB:
    • Jays at Orioles – 7:00PM | Sportsnet
    • Red Sox at Yankees – 7:00PM | ESPN / TSN3
    • Rockies at Dodgers – 10:00PM | ESPN / TSN3
  • Futbol:
    • Campeones Cup Soccer: Toronto FC vs. Tigres UANL – 8:30PM | ESPN2 / TSN
  • NHL Pre-season:
    • Flames at Canucks – 7:00PM | Sportsnet1
  •  NCAA:
    • Women’s College Volleyball:
      • Texas at Kansas State – 7:00PM | ESPNU
      • Alabama at Missouri – 9:00PM | ESPNU

I indeed had beers with Low Commander last night. He’s a charming fellow, with such a deep hatred for Dean Spanos we couldn’t even go for Greek food. Luckily, I had steaks in the fridge. Oh, and he met the dogs; Lambeau was bewildered at the stranger in his house.

YER DRINKIN’ MAH BEER, FRIENDO!

It’s always reassuring, if you meet someone in real life & in a strange city, when someone like me screams out the car window at the relatives waving goodbye, “YOU’LL NEVER FIND HIS BODY!”

Anyway, I hope I haven’t scared anyone away from visiting Vancouver. Why, weed’s even legal here in a month. SHOW UP & TOKE UP!

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A Canadian man-child of indeterminate age, he stays young by selling alcohol at sporting events and yelling at the patrons he serves. Their rage nourishes his soul, and their tips pay for his numerous trips to various sporting events.
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Brick Meathook

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Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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Mr. Ayo

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Mr. Ayo

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Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

What kind of an idiot would check their work email at this time of night?

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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You already know.

Mr. Ayo

This makes me want to check.

Ok. Everything is fine at my work. Thanks.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

You need some international projects! Tonnes (metric) o-fun.

Don T

Hey, sometimes obsessing gets validation.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Massage therapist?

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theeWeeBabySeamus

I like where this is going.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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Wakezilla

What’s this from?

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

I replied but it got hung up by the sort-bot.

theeWeeBabySeamus

I got it.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

THE SORT-BOT FIXER!

Sort-bot Fixer provides justice, just not universal justice:

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Don T

Jarvis Cocker turns 55 today!
https://youtu.be/_qHfuT5s6v4

ALXMAC
ALXMAC
Mr. Ayo

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Nailed It!

-Blair Walsh

theeWeeBabySeamus

That’s awesome.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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Fronkenshteen

Horribly serious note: A wonderful friend of mine, who is a fan of this site’s humo(u)r, has fallen quite ill. Does anyone here have any personal or peripheral experience with cancer treatment without health insurance? We need a plan, and I am useless. Thanks in advance.

theeWeeBabySeamus

What type of cancer?

Fronkenshteen

Not sure. Waiting to hear from her. She left work early last night saying only that she’d had a bad doctors appointment. Heard later that night she was talking about starting chemo. When I know more, I’ll tell you.

theeWeeBabySeamus

OK, I won’t weigh in more here then.

But my suspicion on the type lends me to think that there will be several organizations which will pony up for treatment.

Hopefully, they caught it early.

Sharkbait

Don’t really have a lot of knowledge but look into Medicare and Medicaid as well. Fingers crossed for her. Fuck cancer.

Mr. Ayo

Sorry. GoFundMe and lots of social media is all I got.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

That sucks; she should prepare to protect herself financially. This may involve bankruptcy because this country sucks in terms of leadership. This is addition to what tWBS is saying; explore the available help. You can help her with the research. All the best.

Fronkenshteen

Thank you, guys. I’m sure to have more questions later on. Another reason this site is the goddamn best. Cheers.

Fronkenshteen

Anyone else hoping to land Humps’ LB Darius Leonard on the waiver wire at dawn? I am EXCITE!

Wakezilla

I know I’m in the minority here, but Nicki Minaj in a green wig, all day, every day

/bites knuckle

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theeWeeBabySeamus

I could eat.

Wakezilla

Eat, toss, it don’t matter. It’d be one hell of a ride.

“But if he can’t fuck three times a night, peace”

She’d even make a good Joker, seeing how there’s like 10000000 Joker films coming out over the next few years for some reason.

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Mr. Ayo

I’ve always been an upright fan.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Nobody here is judging (in comments anyway) what anybody else is attracted to and if they do they are being an asshole. Stoned in glass houses and whatnot. Except for football players of course; if you like a certain player from the wrong team you can apparently expect the WRATH.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Is that Seahawks green?

Sharkbait

I would. No question

ALXMAC
ALXMAC

“because Atlanta is a musical wasteland” – SHOTS SHOTS!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9ULbmCvmxY

ALXMAC
Brick Meathook

NHRA Finals in Pomona last year.

I learned from this girl that after a drag race you can go to the pits and ask for a tire and they’ll give you one for free.

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Redshirt

(brainstorm)

(after Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show)
“Um, hi. Uh, could I have a supermodel?”

Mr. Ayo

That’d be like asking for the race car.
This is the equivalent of a used set of panties worn on the walkway.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

By the assistant (male).

Mr. Ayo

He was faster in the quarter mile to be fair.

theeWeeBabySeamus

Honest question….should I shut up or what?

https://plus.google.com/u/0/+PenelopeAvamour/posts/8LtZhS5AUvN

Redshirt

Shut up (said with complete respect). She wants attention. When you respond, you validify her.

Trust me. I have a friend that had an girlfriend that was crazy (non-neonazi division). He tried to go through it. It destroyed him.

theeWeeBabySeamus

I’ll leave her be soon. But I can’t help myself, I gotta try to walk her into one more trap.

Wakezilla

tWBS, my advice to you is to just walk away and let it go and never talk/text/message that horrible human being ever again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moSFlvxnbgk

theeWeeBabySeamus

I know. And I will soon.
But she’s a person who deserves to be taken down a bit first.

theeWeeBabySeamus

As a long time baseball fan, I really hate the little strike zone graphic they put on the screen these days.

Mr. Ayo

I agree. I already know to boo the ump for his shitty strike zone.

Redshirt

I have no problem, just as long as the ump is consistent and calls it the same for both teams.

Wakezilla

Yeah, it means nothing when the umps have their own strikezone. If beisbol could shave off about 30 minutes for the average game, I think it could legitimately take a run at football.

theeWeeBabySeamus

Really wish I was there with ya.
They’re one of the bands I’ve never seen live but really want to.

ALXMAC
Brick Meathook

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Redshirt

So I’m going to be cancelling my local newspaper subscription. Should I say:

(1) My Commander, Donald J. Trump, has ordered me to cut ties to all treasonous and seditious information

or

(2) I don’t feel like playing 50% more or $46 a month for less information than I could get off the internet or local TV?

Mr. Ayo

Definitely 1.

Also add your accountant has advised you to cease investing in failing businesses.

Brick Meathook

Tell ’em the bridge column has nothing more to offer you.

Mr. Ayo

Right? I already know to conceal my strength by playing the highest immaterial card I can when an opponent shows out.

I’m no dummy. Well, I mean, sometimes I have to be.

King Hippo

at the coffee shop yesterday, I had the chance to review the local sports page. It had whittled down to a most sad thing indeed. I no longer felt bad about not taking the paper’s calls.

Redshirt

My sports section doesn’t even show the box scores of the baseball games. That’s like SportsCenter saying who won, but not showing the scores.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Shit I fell asleep. Cooking myself a little dinner now but making the same mistake I always do and underestimating how long it takes to cook sausage all the way through.

theeWeeBabySeamus

Goddammit, I need to learn keep my mouth shut.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Is this about that bossy Aussie Nazi again?

theeWeeBabySeamus

Yeah. She issued several death threats against me privately by email, because she couldn’t grow a pair and debate me publicly on her anti-Semitic attitudes. So I’ve notified her local law enforcement about her international terroristic death threats against me.

I don’t expect anything to come of it. But I did almost make her hateful little head explode I think. And that was worth the effort.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Sounds like the bossy Aussie Nazi could use a hobby. I’m going to suggest….boggle.

theeWeeBabySeamus

I doubt she can spell well enough to play Boggle, to be honest.
She’s a dangerous person. And I don’t mind being the asshole who takes her down.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

Redshirt

“Aussie Nazi” sounds like a name of a Heel Independent Wrestler.

Wakezilla

/reads the link

She seems to have a hard time concentrating. Perhaps she should go to a concentration camp.

theeWeeBabySeamus

Hahahahaha….now THAT’S fucking funny.

Redshirt

I just listed to Claire Foy speak in a American accent. That’s just wrong.

Brick Meathook

never trust anyone who uses the word “whilst”

theeWeeBabySeamus

Hehehehe…this made me giggle.

Mr. Ayo

Whomst amongst us wouldn’t agree?

Redshirt

You just described one of my college roommates. He was a nice guy, but with a screw or two loose.

Also, I learned a body can function with no sleep for 10 weeks at a time with only minimal damage to the central nervous system. Plus the hallucinations, night terrors and psychosis goes down after a few months of normal sleep.

Redshirt

Recently I realized that my views are changing. I’m becoming more open minded. Considering the other point of views. Adjusting how I think or talk. I’m not changing who I am or what I believe; I’m just adapting to the new world.

I’m evolving. So all I have to say is…

Where’s the B-button?! WHERE’S THE B-BUTTON?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDHq7enLNWo

SonOfSpam

Start with the hormones BEFORE the surgery. Trust me on this.

Redshirt

No, I not switching to Redskirt. However, that did relate to my sudden epiphany.

I read online how a Brony Fan Artist recently came out as a TransMale. As I was reading it suddenly dawned on me that I wasn’t thinking of them as a “woman identifying as a man”, or as a “TransMale”. I was seeing them as a man. I saw their picture, my brain was seeing him as a “man”. And it wasn’t because that’s what he wants to go as now, or that’s what society says.

I just saw it as fact.

Brick Meathook

She had you fooled. That’s when they steal your wallet.

litre_cola

The slow slide to flat earther starts now.

theeWeeBabySeamus

Aussie Federal Police have told me to shut up and back off and let them handle it.

Well that’s not the words they used, but that was the msg.

SonOfSpam

“Krikey, quit jibjebbing in our hoodaroo, mate. We’ll thunkerdash the sheila before you can lopsy-daisy your grananabloom.”

Redshirt

I would recommend this for Banner, but I’m afraid the DFO IT Dept. may see this, think the website is acting up and shut down the site for maintenance.

Sharkbait

Grounds for the giant boot?

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WCS

Oh, you bastard.

Sharkbait

Great minds WCS

WCS

Best heed the warning. You don’t want to have to take a booting.

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SonOfSpam

Evening all. Sorry I don’t have any Jew-hating exes for y’all to check out. But my penis does look like a video game character…try to guess which one!

WCS

A Link to the Past-era Princess Zelda

SonOfSpam

I’m full 16 bit down there. Emphasis on bit.

theeWeeBabySeamus

DONKEY KONG!!!!!!

SonOfSpam

Dammit. You get a t-shirt.

Mr. Ayo

Birdo
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SonOfSpam

I don’t wax.

Petronel

Resisting urge to respond “Solid Snake”…

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blaxabbath

If y’all haven’t participated in this weeks Quotables, get on over there. People really making lemonade out of lemons this week.

WCS

Having a crappy computer that can’t process lot and lots of .gifs all at once make me sad.

litre_cola

Ok, ok Twbs this line takes the cake about Aussie PM Malcolm Turnbull.

Ever since he blocked me on G+ in October 2015 I’ve been trying to get him assassinated, which I made a post about on my profile

SonOfSpam

Isn’t that, like, not all that legal or what have you?

blaxabbath

The FBI doesn’t investigate things like this.

WCS

TIME FOR SUNNY I DON’T HAVE TO PRETEND TO TALK TO THE FAMILY ANYMORE

theeWeeBabySeamus

Guys, please don’t make comments on this page. I want to be the only one she’s pissed at.
But here….
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+PenelopeAvamour/posts/8LtZhS5AUvN

Mr. Ayo

/grabs fresh frozen plastic bottle of vodka
//cracks knuckles
///opens link

Oh wait. Lucky for you Australia doesn’t exist.

litre_cola

/goes outside
//smokes bowl
///let’s do this
////holy fuck she is a NAzi!!!!!!

theeWeeBabySeamus

Yup.

Redshirt

As a Brony, I must insist that everyone show compassion and restrain.

But since this is the Internet, I’d say be sure you can’t be doxed and have at it.

litre_cola

My Canadian waspyness does not enjoy conflict or harassment unless it is about Real Madrid. Fuck those guys.

blaxabbath

Honestly sort of surprised I haven’t been doxed.

“Sebastian Blax cruised the internet with bad guys who watched football!”

Redshirt

Don’t argue with trolls. It means they win.

theeWeeBabySeamus

I generally agree. But this chick has it coming.

litre_cola

Is she the only one on Google+?

theeWeeBabySeamus

More or less, yes.
It’s a dead medium.

Sharkbait

Was it ever alive?

theeWeeBabySeamus

Not really, no.

Low Commander of the Super Soldiers

I’m offended, but only by her lazy use of puns. “JewTube and Joogle” are just pathetic.

Sharkbait

Right? Get more creative in your slur usage.

SonOfSpam

I would’ve at least chortled a little at YidTube.

Senor Weaselo

Someone did that with New York on a map app and made it like “Jewtropolis.” My best friend, who is Jewish, responded that it was offensive…ly bad, because “Jew York” was right there, as was “Menschattan,” and the hackers didn’t go with either of those.

Also when they made those caps of other racist caricatures to protest Cleveland, he asked where he could get the Jewish one. He also said he’d get me one specifically if I wore it around my de facto ex. The one who’s engaged to the guy in rabbinical school.

Don T

“Counselor”
????????????????
I’m a BIG fan of the derisive “ “.

theeWeeBabySeamus

She actually is (allegedly) an attorney who is so bad at her job that the partners in her firm won’t even allow her to speak to clients without one of them in the room with her.

WCS

This Gamefly commercial fills me with the Rage virus. I want to run towards the nearest living thing and kill it whenever it airs. .

Low Commander of the Super Soldiers

Not a single person in that company has ever played a video game.

Wakezilla

Sounds like the creatorts of the WWE 2K series

Redshirt

Boston Red Sox just cursed themselves! The Curse of the Banner. In 2100, Red Sox fans will be screaming to the heavens “Why?! Why couldn’t you have thrown them a sign baseball or two?!”

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/the-red-soxs-2018-al-east-championship-banner-is-being-held-hostage-by-a-few-boston-buddies/

Wakezilla

Nah, that guy sounded like an idiot and he deserves nothing. Dude should have asked for tickets to be at the game when they reveal the banner.

Sharkbait

Ice Giants power play already in mid-season form.

Redshirt

My family has decided to share their flu. I’m more Cloraseptic than Man now.

litre_cola

Have had a head cold for 2 weeks now. Flu’s can go by quickly so you got that going for you.

King Hippo

Not to make light of child abduction, but the tattoo and pickup truck descriptions (and there are ALWAYS both) that come with the Amber Alerts always make me chuckle.

Sharkbait

Stereotypes exist for a reason.

Brick Meathook

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Redshirt

But I thought Stereotypes were bad? But they good. And also bad? But benefitual? But harmful? But helpful? But archaric? But useful? But…

redshirt_brain.exe has performed an illegal operation and must shut down. We apologize for any inconvenience..

theeWeeBabySeamus

Oh, my “friend” from down under who happens to be hateful nazi chick, is still sending me death threats.

I really made her head go all ‘splodey it would appear.

King Hippo

yes, we get it. You are still angling for the hate fuck. 😀

theeWeeBabySeamus

Dude, I wouldn’t fuck her with your dick at this point.

litre_cola

Like, would you strap him to you? Like a lucky Pierre type deal? Would you both have to look her in the eye? Lot going on there.

King Hippo

I could tell her how many times I voted for Obama during!

King Hippo

(i) it’s prehensile; and (ii) NAWT pawning it out (until 5dimes starts making a REALLY good offer)

theeWeeBabySeamus

LMFAO

Sharkbait

Artist’s rendering:

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litre_cola

Sounds like her views are very problematic.

theeWeeBabySeamus

When she and I first crossed paths, I knew she was a little bit off, but she wasn’t like this.
About a year or so later she started up the anti-Semitic stuff, but only occasionally. I tried to guide her back away from it. Then I moved away from her because it was becoming an obsession for her.

But I still occasionally check in and see how she’s doing.

The answer: Not very well.

I admit, I intentionally fucked with her this time just to piss her off. But if someone has the balls to publicly say the shit she now does regularly, then have the balls to at least try to back it up with civil discourse. She doesn’t, she started making death threats privately, so now fuck her.

smgdh

theeWeeBabySeamus

Plus, she’s a Sydney Swans’ fan.

litre_cola

There it is. Is she from the Western Suburbs? Or wouldn’t go in there if you paid her.

Redshirt

Watch your back and quit putting Little tWBS into crazy.

theeWeeBabySeamus

Next Red Sox Pitcher? Who’s up?????

Damn, I’m actually rooting for the Yanks. Which only makes me hate Boston more.

WCS

The only bad thing about the start of the hockey season is it means the NBA is also about to start. No, ESPN, I will never, ever, ever, ever, EVER watch your shit-ass league.

King Hippo

THIS GUY gets it!!

litre_cola

Well we know you and Gamblor do not participate in ice based games.

King Hippo

but I will watch the ice follies. The Association just needs to be killed with fire.

speaking of #HAILGAMBLOR: GOOOOOOAAAAAALLLLLL Tigres!!

litre_cola

Of course I am watching, and Fulham would destroy these teams, last year, before the huge additions.

King Hippo

That first half win ($45 @ +390) means I am allowed #ShameFood. Pizza Hut carryput, specifically.

litre_cola

I treat myself to a stuffed crust every couple of months.

King Hippo

it’s not bad grease bread, really. Just have to plan some quality time with the old porcelain altar the next morning.

Wakezilla

I bet you TFC could beat Fulham

We need to make that happen

theeWeeBabySeamus

Sorry Red Sox, that’s a dinger.
Call will be upheld.

theeWeeBabySeamus

Told ya.

Sharkbait

It’s karma for trying to extort tickets for the banner

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Pfft, Boston clearly is enveloped some kind of karma-proof field and has been for the last fifteen years.

Sharkbait

Sup. I’m watching pre-season hockey. I might have problems.

herodotus450

Well the season hasn’t started yet, what else are you supposed to do?

Mr. Ayo

Any hockey >>> No hockey

King Hippo

I mean, the #BFIB already played, so no meaningful baseball

Low Commander of the Super Soldiers

Canadians sure do seem to enjoy setting themselves up for obvious jokes.
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WCS

It’s still tasty Canadian swill.

Low Commander of the Super Soldiers

Tons better than the Idaho swill I dumped out at my cousin’s wedding on Sunday. Avoid Sockeye IPA at all costs.

Brick Meathook

This is me at work today. I’m awesome:
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Redshirt

My department’s supervisor gave what was supposed to be an inspirational speech. He thought it came off as good. If there was a cliff near our factory, the whole department would’ve jumped off it.

WCS
King Hippo

ah. this is how I have felt re worky work all week too. Cliffs are in short supply here, much like Ohio.

Low Commander of the Super Soldiers

He’s a charming fellow

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Redshirt

Thanks to Stormy Daniels’ description, I now know what Trump’s penis looks like. That’s a mental image I won’t get out of my head. Ever.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

“Never say…shit, how does that expression go again?”

– Trent Green

BrettFavresColonoscopy

I decided to really amp up my suffering this Yom Kippur by going to the DMV.

Mistakes were made. I’m still at said DMV.

herodotus450

If you run out of lamp oil now…?

Senor Weaselo

So your trip was neither easy nor was it meaningful, I presume?

BrettFavresColonoscopy

I, too, have met Low Commander, so I believe that by the transitive property, I can vouch for BeerGuyRob not being imaginary.

litre_cola

Sooo some of us do exist? I have met you, and OuzohombreRich has sent me some m&m’s for a Baking with Litre! Most of you are still imaginary!

BrettFavresColonoscopy

I’ve met you, LCSS, Balls, Brick, tWBS, snow, RTD, yeahright, and I think that’s it, but Horatio has been sending me beer so he’s my favorite.

litre_cola

I bet you the dudes in that stag party you were at liked me!

Wakezilla

Were you the stripper?

litre_cola

Nah, gave em all weed cookies. They would have to pay top dollar for my gyrations.

Low Commander of the Super Soldiers

When I met Horatio, he gave me beer, but it has yet to be shipped. I gotta get in in this whole delivery beer business.

Sharkbait

DFO Beer Exchange?

litre_cola

I would be down with that.

Sharkbait

Put out some feelers?

litre_cola

Last time I did that I got an ankle bracelet for my troubles…

Sharkbait

Am I dead to you?

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BrettFavresColonoscopy

Sheeeeeeit, My bad. I liked meeting you AND Mrs Sharkbait

Wakezilla

When I’m not so got damn immobilized, I’d like to meet up with you for some Saturday morning lesser footy at a pub

litre_cola

Yessir! Ship and Anchor for the 1030 games!

King Hippo

FUCK OFF, ur all imaginary TOO HIPPO!! 😀

Wakezilla

Congress voted 93-7 to approve a $607 billion military budget, which is a $17 billion increase. That’s some mighty fine resistance by Democrats and the secret GOP anti-Trumpers

Blerghhhh

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

3% increase? While I’m personally opposed to any increase, that’s not that bad.

Wakezilla

It’s the largest increase since the Iraq war. That’s a lot

Redshirt

That’s what stops me from falling over the slippery slope and going True Blue. They can have all the protests they want. They can say how offended they are. But at the end of the day, the Democratic Party is as political as the Republican Party.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

As a political party, yes, they are as political. But they’re not as immoral and craven as their counterparts across the aisle. For supporting evidence, see Merrick Garland, deficits during GOP control, small government instincts in the face of state and local decisions they disagree with, etc

BrettFavresColonoscopy

And that’s before birtherism, pizzagate, and the coddling of white supremacists

Redshirt

I didn’t say they were worse. Only as shitty.

There’s a difference. Good shit and bad shit are both shit.