Do You Want What You Want? : Tuesday Open Thread

And you may tell yourself, “This is not my beautiful house”
And you may tell yourself, “This is not my beautiful wife”

-Talking Heads, “Once in a Lifetime”

 

I am usually fairly good about remembering the source of pseudo-philosophical claptrap that I find meaningful. They are few, far between, and perhaps the most valuable of the things I collect. As with most valuable collections, provenance is important.

But every once in a while something echoes in my head without a traceable source.

Today’s paraphrased doggrel is a derivative of the reincarnation/karma/time is a flat circle concept: life presents us with the same lessons over and over until we finally learn them.

One of my recurring lesson is to examine the source of your motivations. Put another way, “Do you actually want what you think you want?”

An example: in law school, I went through an on campus interview gauntlet, wherein students go from room to room interviewing with representatives from Big Law law firms. For both of you reading this that are not lawyers, these are the fancy-pants ultra-expensive 150+ lawyers-in-a-granite-and-steel-highrise (think The Devil’s Advocate). This is INCREDIBLY stressful, because your entire future (paying off student loans, affording a home, etc.) depends on the 30 minutes you have to convince this random person that you are the finest young legal mind they’ve ever seen.

Or so your brain and your school’s career advisors tell you. But your brain is a Fucking Liar, and those counselors only give a shit about how much money you’ll be able to donate back to the school in appreciation for the education you already paid for.

The reality is that most attorneys do not work for Shitstain, Schlitztain and Mork on the 83rd Floor downtown. Most attorneys still manage to pay their loans, pay their mortgages, and still have enough left over to rot their liver with a reasonable grade of Strong Drink. It works out fine.

But Young Overly Anxious Law Student doesn’t know this. He or she is living and dying by the invitations (or rejections) they get as a result of these interviews.

I had just broken up with my long-time girlfriend. I was a giant ball of stress and recently diagnosed depression. She was batshit neurotic in a way that was becoming less and less charming as I struggled to get healthy. In retrospect, it was a good time for the relationship to self-destruct.

But one of our last conversations was one of the most important. In that gloriously naive way that only those under 28 can be, we tried to remain friends. I was telling her about the interviews that day in minute detail and going into a spin about whether they had gone well or terribly when she stopped me and asked “Is any of these jobs what you really want?”

And I stopped. Because the question was dead on target. I thought I wanted a big fancy firm job because that’s what I was supposed to want. Those firms were the pinnacle of the legal profession, only taking the brightest and best. And that’s what you were shooting for, right?To be one of the best?

Horseshit.

I knew what Big Firm Life was. I grew up with my dad pulling 11 hour days and at least one day per weekend to meet a 2200 billable-hour minimum. I remember the bullshit politics, the frustration at clients and partners, the toxic atmosphere that constantly told my father he Wasn’t Good Enough.

Even knowing all that, I jumped through the hoops. I studied my ass off to get a good class rank. I researched firms. I went through the interview wringer.

All for something I was told I should want.

This goes on in the background constantly in our lives. The entire structure of social norms and expectations depends on steering individuals toward a commonly-shared set of values regarding what is Good and what is Not. Seventy-five percent of advertising is manufacturing demand, because we Should Want a nicer car, a nicer carpet, a Wi-Fi Juicer with Digital Rights Management fruit.

The other twenty-five percent is increasingly desperate attempts to make insurance Funny.

Eventually I made the right decision (for the time), turned down the one in-office interview I got and joined a boutique litigation firm that let me try cases. I suppose I owe my ex for that.

But here we are again. An opening at work. Diagonal promotion and management responsibilities. I am supposed to want this, not just for the extra money but because it’s another rung on the ladder. And you don’t just sit there on a ladder, right? Gotta keep moving, even if you don’t know where you’re moving to…

But I don’t want this. I don’t want to miss my kids’ ballgames because I have to work more. I don’t want underlings- I have a hard enough time managing myself.

Ambition without self-examination is a mook’s game. We are told that if we are not working toward something then we are aimless; dead-souled cogs in the machine. In truth, unthinking ambition is a way to get you to chase the carrot without even having to offer the carrot.

So take your time. Check in with yourself and explicitly think about what you value. Make sure the road you are driving down is one that you (mostly) chose.

NFL NEWS:

Everyone is ded. The injury list is both long and distinguished, headlined by Tua Tagovailoa (IR-Trent Green)

I’m not going to rehash the “should he retire?” discussion here. The sane answer is yes- Tua got his bag this off-season, and if he never plays another down, he will walk away with between $90 million and $120 million more dollars, on top of the $70+ million he’s already earned. He’s 26. Go open a Kia dealership.

Really, the discussion for me is whether the Dolphins and the league can scrape together enough long-term vision (and whatever remaining scraps of human decency might have escaped the janitor’s attention) to tell Tua he’s done for the good of the NFL.

Every single team (including Cleveland, somehow) is a $4 billion+ asset. But there is little inherent value to an NFL franchise. Selling off the uniforms and the tackling sleds and the Football Helmet Golf Cart isn’t going to get you a lot if people cease watching football. And one of the biggest threats to the popularity of football is the injury factor. The last thing the declining rate of youth participation needs is for Tua to trot out to a hero’s return versus Los Angeles and end up seizing on the field after a hit in prime time.

Paternalistic? Yes. But the NFL routinely intrudes on player freedom for worse reasons. If the NFL will keep players off the field because their behavior reflects poorly on The Shield, why not for this?

LATE UPDATE:

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Horatio Cornblower

Just reading this and the comments now, since I spent last night watching a couple of episodes of ‘Bad Monkey’ (recommend), and one of the documentaries about the collapse of We Work and holy shit, how did anyone ever fall for that one? There’s a Phd. dissertation in the fallacy of sunk costs if ever there was one.

Anyway, law school is three years of your life you’ll never get back, it could certainly be completed in two years and probably three semesters if we’re being honest. After law school you’ll need a good 2-3 years of experience before you can really be called an attorney, because unless you took a ton of clinics in law school, (no, not that kind of clinic, although with all the drinking and casual hook-ups to relieve yourself of the sheer boredom of the 2nd and 3rd years those clinics probably aren’t a bad idea), you’ve never done a client meeting, drafted a brief that was anything but hypothetical, taken a deposition, and probably haven’t actually seen a contract.

As for being an attorney, eh, whatever. I make a good living. I’m not in a white-shoe law firm, although I had brief encounters with two. Attorneys with outstanding reputations, fantastic incomes, and with one or two exceptions, the most miserable people I’ve ever met.

Find yourself a job you can tolerate and that pays the bills. Then focus on your family, yourself, and your (invisible) friends. You’ll be better for it.

WCS
Unsurprised

There’s a non-zero change A Football Life: Megatron is the most depressing thing on TV at the moment.

Gatoraids

One franchise destroying the best WR and best RB to every play the game is quite the unaccomplishment: the Circle of Retirement

Unsurprised

I was just reading an article about how Ford just realized a year ago from their joint venture partner in China that that company’s EVs and EVs in general are the future and they are cleaning Ford’s clock.

IOW, everyone connected to the Fords is a goddamn idiot ruining everything around them.

Unsurprised

It was basically that scene in Ford vs. Ferrari with Ford II riding shotgun, except the Chinese EV is ten years ahead of anything Ford has, which is about as long as the joint venture has been going on.

BugEyedBoo

I saw a video about a $12K Chinese EV. Looked pretty good. The resident automotive ‘experts’ said that the problem is that the car wouldn’t meet US safety standards, and cars in the US need much bigger batteries because people won’t buy cars with a 100km range in the US. Put that together and the price gets close to $30K.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

At $12k and a limited range it would actually be a great car for suburban households to buy as a car for local errands that eventually gets passed on to the teenagers.

Gatoraids

be nice of them to remember being able to sell any car under 25k

WCS

How about just not a “down” payment that’s $5400?

2Pack

Only thing I know about lawyers, is they took over most decision making in the military in the ’90’s. This was our deployment tune before each of my JTF gigs in Africa.

https://youtu.be/F2HH7J-Sx80?si=ZqRu3WcGZwjB4QpQ

Dunstan

Hope that sonofabitch Van Owen wasn’t in your unit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRWCK9zGynA

2Pack

No but I think I caught a glimpse of him in Toyota Land Cruiser in Brazzaville.

Gatoraids
Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

The older I get the closer I get to declaring this the finest song ever written.

Gumbygirl

The shit has hit the fan

Buddy Cole's Halftime Show

I quit a pretty nice union gig to return to work with special needs children. The money is about the same, but I feel like a have a purpose for the first time in forever.

SonOfSpam

a) That’s wonderful
2) Trying to find the right “special needs children/explicit gay sex” comment, and I’m coming up empty. Hmm. “Coming up empty” could work somehow. Gotta workshop for a bit.

Unsurprised

That’s fantastic.

2Pack

To paraphrase a fairly famous quote about French Allies… Getting a decent run in around downtown Zagreb… is like going deer hunting with an acordian…

ballsofsteelandfury

How depressed are they about the Champions League match against Bayern?

SonOfSpam

The Germans rolled them so hard they’re relocating to Warsaw

2Pack

It’s awfully quiet so probably… Very…

Doktor Zymm

So, my takeaway from all this is that going to law school is almost always an irrational thing to do

Unsurprised

It’s great if you have aspirations to be a politician or the kinds of lawyers who’ve been paid by even scummier people to make the world worse each day for the last few decades.

SonOfSpam

Thought I wanted that at the start of college, then after a few years of college decided MOAR schooling would drive me insane(r), so I hung my BA and never looked back except while getting meager paychecks and holy shit I’ve ruined my life.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I thought the song in Crazy Ex-Girlfriend made that abundantly clear.

Don T

I disagree on Tua. Tagovailoa is the one taking the risk. He should be the one to decide. Hopefully with his family is OK with it. Though down here a spouse saying “I give you my blessing” usually means decades of “Should’ve retired early, but salvation is personal they say”.

Doktor Zymm

I know he’ll be making his own choice, as he should, but I personally want him to retire for the entirely selfish reason that I don’t want to watch someone die on the field.

Unsurprised

There are a couple of people I would like to watch

Bogdanski

Great write up. I had the same revelation about 6 months ago. My inherent laziness always kinda guided me in this direction but for so long the emphasis was: work 70 hours a week for your PhD, work 80 hours a week as a postdoc, work 100 hours as an assistant professor. I realized early on in grad school that I was definitely not on the professor track, and then as a postdoc that I had no interest in the academia track at all. Luckily I got a few years of unemployment to be a musician and then a stay at home parent but when I finally went back to work in industry I saw people sitting at desks all day and thought “Well, I guess I’ll have to do that some day, but not yet.” After I was laid off this past March some grifter on Linkedin contacted me about “maximizing my career” and “getting right to the top.” I thought about it for a few days and realized, “No, I don’t want to be that high up.” I see my wife’s (same field) calendar with nothing but meetings and realize, I just want to work at the bench, do experiments, and maybe manage a few people, but always focus on hands on science. It was quite a revelation and I wish I had been mature enough in college to realize that.

Don T

One thing big firms can provide is working with people at the top of the profession. The profession being turning a work week into 180 billable hours.
Loved the post, Rev. A life without time to dick around? Never.

Unsurprised

I wish I had something useful to add, but I don’t think I do. I found a job I enjoy but I’ve hit a ceiling. I have no life, so quality is a mixed bag at this point. I am a land of contrasts.

blaxabbath

You’re stealing my bit!

Unsurprised

I was never going to be Biglaw. I’m not practicing now. I want to get back into it, on my terms, but there’s a lot things between want to and do.

blaxabbath

Kid does whatever bs pre-law undergrad (history) then three years in law school.

What’s the bottom end earnings a lawyer expects to pull for the first few years?

Unsurprised

What law school, what kind of law, what jurisdiction?

blaxabbath

Whatever dickhead guy I met at some party who was going to law school at Arizona and [then describes living in Scottsdale].

Not a professional with ten years as an engineer going to law school to get into patents. I’m taking about just fresh fucking students who went to school for 19 years and are now Esquire.

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Unsurprised

Probably 60-80

Doktor Zymm

Wow, that’s not nearly as much as I would have guessed

Unsurprised

The median for Arizona seems to be around $130-135, same as here. The median seems like a lie to me, though.

Doktor Zymm

I didn’t realize that Russ injured himself during the team’s conditioning test, that’s HILARIOUS

SonOfSpam

Nazis enjoy tossing salads? Learn something every damn day!

Unsurprised

I wonder whether they have a favorite flavor when eating ass.

Gumbygirl

I read somewhere that Laura Loomer is Trump’s “keister feaster”. I thought of you immediately!

Unsurprised

With her face, it’d be like kissing a mirror.

Doktor Zymm

Ew ew ew ew ew

Gatoraids

Hogs love to find truffles

Gatoraids

Moved to management at my last job at time telling my wife I knew it would just get me fired from it in a few years but wanted to see what it was like and had doubts of type of person they’d hire otherwise. Good and bad learning experience in alot of ways.

Next job started off in dev again and now find myself back in management again last few jobs with main goal of not working late or weekends for myself or my team. So far so good and managed to avoid hiring people who work too late and ruin their teams in project with hero coding and “refactoring”. Not that we dont deal with other teams that do but at least my team can make their family dinner and get flex time off in day to goto school stuff.,

Game Time Decision

This is the way

WCS

My extensive legal background…

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WCS

Also, I watched Matlock in a bar once. The sound wasn’t on, but I think I got the gist of it.

SonOfSpam

Very excited for the Matlock reboot starring Kathy Bates.

(yes, that’s real, because Hannity viewers gotta come down)

litre_cola

I thought that she was dead.

SonOfSpam

You’re coping with her nudity in About Schmidt in a healthy manner.

Unsurprised

Has anyone seen the Perry Mason reboot with the guy from The Americans?

SonOfSpam

Yes, enjoyed it immensely. They’re done with it after two seasons, which is disappointing.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Yes, it was very good.

herodotus450

Ya’ll work on contingency, right? Cause I got a home run of a case against the Coors Corporation but I can’t exactly fund it right now…

ballsofsteelandfury

Mouse in the bottle?

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Unsurprised

Wasn’t there a Moose here once?

SonOfSpam

“I was told my beer would be brewed by ADOLPH, goddammit!”

WCS

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Dunstan

I remember asking an interviewer what the typical billable hours were (a lot of firms advertise the minimum, which is usually ungodly high to begin with, but it’s like pieces of flair at Shenanigan’s — you’re expected to do more than the minimum), and he said that most people worked, oh, 2400 billables or so.

Either he was a poor judge of character or my poker face was better than I thought, because I managed not to look appalled and he said, “you’re gonna love it here, I can tell.”

I did not take that job, instead opting for a job at We’re Kinda Sorta Biglaw If You Squint, which had only moderately insane expectations. Eventually I got to the point where I would have been coming up for partner, and I was not willing to make the push that would have been required to assure them that I was really the kind of workaholic they were looking for. I got out before they pushed me out, and now I work at Lunch Is The Highlight Of Our Day Law. I make a lot less money than my former colleagues but have retained some shreds of sanity.

Doktor Zymm

For us non-lawyer sort, what time period is that expectation over and roughly what % of working time is billable?

WCS

Let’s just assume, “Yes.”

Doktor Zymm

So it’s basically a bit over 40 hours per week, but you don’t really know how many hours actually count and when they’ll be available? That would annoy the hell out of me.

Unsurprised

New lawyers are bottom of the layer cake, and most likely to have their hours cut because clients don’t want them paid “learning” law on the job because that’s only how the whole system worked for the 950 years in the Anglo-American system before billable hours began 60 years ago. Anyway, it’s a lot.

Sharkbait

I definitely straddle the line of “you can do anything for a year” and “my sanity is worth more than what I’m being paid to deal with this level of bullshit” when it comes to work. It’s been a sound strategy so far.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

As usual, you all are a terrible influence and I’m now having what I call the Sterling Archer.

Yes, it’s scotch and gummi bears.

Doktor Zymm

Fine choice!

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Oh, this is after a cocktail and a previous scotch. You all better find a good liver donor in 2-37 years.

Doktor Zymm

I hear Gen Z doesn’t drink much, and I’m pretty sure TikTok will turn out to be an illicit organ marketplace in the end so I think we’re set on that front

Gatoraids

Good for rest of us that will need liver donations

Sharkbait

Wise choice sir!

Gumbygirl

As usual, our spiritual advisor has hit the nail right on its shiny flat head. Obviously, Gumby and I could have taken many more lucrative paths than the ones we chose, but je ne regrette rien! We only had a short time with our son, but we showed him a bigger chunk of the world than most kids ever get to see. Now that my husband is nearing the end too, I’m so fucking grateful that we’ve had a blast while we were young enough to enjoy it, instead of waiting for retirement to do the fun stuff. I am not going to be a wealthy old lady, but I have what I need, and awesome memories to keep me company. And you chucklefucks too!

ballsofsteelandfury

We love you! Go see The Cure, you crazy kids!

Gatoraids

Roger voice holds up great and their concert shirts/art are nice and differ by city really appreciate the though they put in to it

SonOfSpam

I just got tickets for Los Lobos.

Oh shit, I let Gumby buy them, and I guess I’m seeing Lisa Loeb.

litre_cola

I would be fine with both.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9HGwRbMiVY

SonOfSpam

She does that song five times then shyly waves to the audience and disappears into an oversized sweater.

litre_cola

My oversized sweater.

Doktor Zymm

If I ever meet you in person I am going to give you the biggest hug

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Will you tell the others?

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Unsurprised

Fodder for that week’s Sexy Friday

ballsofsteelandfury
SonOfSpam

Thanks! Forgot about her, the offseason is long and unforgiving.

Game Time Decision

So I’m the lone IT guy in with a bunch of lawyers? Wtf
Feels like I should change my screen name to be “other Redshirt”

Doktor Zymm

I think it’s only half lawyers, so still overrepresented, but you are not alone! Tech is probably second I think?

litre_cola

I warned you many years ago.

Game Time Decision

Like I’m gonna listen to good advice
Jump off the bridge into the river below, sure
Don’t be tech support for a random blog, lalalalala

Sharkbait

Does audit specialist for a software company count as tech?

Game Time Decision

Sure

BrettFavresColonoscopy

I’m not a lawyer but am often confused for one.

I think that’s an insult.

Mr. Ayo

There are many of us!

Gatoraids

Dev manager so we couple more from a scrum breaking out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo3cL4nrGOk

ArmedandHammered

Nope, I am more software but definitely not a lawyer.

Unsurprised

I’m licensed but not practicing law. I prefer it this way, but I’d like to at least go back to volunteering on my off time.

BugEyedBoo

<= Developer 4 lyfe!

ballsofsteelandfury

Important update!

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Game Time Decision

Wooohooo

Nawt last

Mr. Ayo

Woot! Not in the relegation zone!

Yet.

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Doktor Zymm

Woo and 0! Although my score this week was about half my score last week, so if the trend continues Spam will have no problem kicking my butt in week 3

litre_cola

last 4.

ballsofsteelandfury

I believe it’s bottom four? Or three.

Who is the commissioner, anyway?

Litre?

litre_cola

See above. I am the commish of this one, gametimedecision is the co commish so one of us has to stay up.

Game Time Decision

Gotta be you, as I’ll be relegated

litre_cola

Shredded by Balls rd 1, and fucked over by Saquon’s hands in rd 2. I am going down brother.

Gumbygirl

We need to know who these teams belong to. I can guess some, but not all.

Doktor Zymm

I’m Sofa Loren

ballsofsteelandfury

My avatar gives me away

Sharkbait

Yeah, In 2 games I got Saquon’d, Cook’d AND Kamara’d. If running backs could stop having monster days against me that would be great…

Game Time Decision

Can I play you every week?

Doktor Zymm

I’ve tended to prioritie things in my life quite differently than most and I thank my parents for being very weird and sane people.
My dad routinely turned down promotions with significant raises because he knew he didn’t want to manage people, and my mom switched fields to get a work from home job when that was barely a thing in the late 80s/early 90s and a few years earlier gave up a really solid job at J&J to go live in Germany for a couple years.
They also pushed grad school for the career flexibility it gives you (not that grad school was a hard sell for me, was sure I was gonna get a PhD even when I was 8, lol).

ballsofsteelandfury

I’m pretty sure the real estate agent demands to see your PhD before taking you to visit volcanic lairs.

Doktor Zymm

The self-made evil geniuses can be great, but they tend to lack the self-preservation instincts you learn in academia and get killed before they get the chance to aquire real estate. Galois is a classic example

Sharkbait

I’m with your dad. I value the balance I’ve got now, and not the stress of managing other people underneath me. No thanks to that added stress.

ballsofsteelandfury

I’m lucky that I knew early on that I liked telling people what to do.

Management was a no brainer for me.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

I thought it was because you liked always having people under you.

ballsofsteelandfury

Potato, potatoe

ThurberHerder

I don’t think it was for me, but The Devil Wears Prada had a similar message.

Maybe Bojack horseman was this message for me.

King Hippo

the Bojack “Stupid Piece of Shit” episode was too on the mark. I was shook for several days. Kind of like when my ex-girlfriend (an alcoholic who wasn’t ready for help) said she started watching Leaving Las Vegas.

SonOfSpam

Great writeup Rev.

Turned down a more-money and more-responsibility job about six months ago; the clincher was when the last interviewer casually tossed off “of course there’s gonna be night and weekend work” as though I wasn’t a 55 year old gadabout and raconteur. The choice was about quality of life and sticking with the devil I knew was the right call.

As lawyers go, you’re fairly smart.

Gumbygirl

You are a bon vivant and a flâneur! A veritable boulevardier!

Doktor Zymm

Tres Gallic!

Gumbygirl

Wee Wee!

BeefReeferLives

Just an outstanding essay / poast, Right Rev. Great points that were well & entertainingly put.

King Hippo

No wonder we ordained the motherfucker!

ballsofsteelandfury
King Hippo

(also some of us always dreamed to be dead-souled cogs in the machine)

Sharkbait

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BeefReeferLives

Well done, Justin.

BeefReeferLives

If you’re a multi-millionaire that defrauds the state to steal from the poorest of the poor, you’re a fucking shitbag. That’s it.

Gumbygirl

He needs to be kicked hard in his tiny dick. Repeatedly.

SonOfSpam

The worst people are just so consistent about being the worst. Impressive kinda.

scotchnaut

Hear me out-if Favre had posted just the one American flag emoji, I wouldn’t take him seriously at all. But the son of a bitch posted three American flags! I don’t think that any liberal could possibly come back from this Southern Repetitive Aggression!

Doktor Zymm

Could only be better if he posted one flag for each state that seceded

BrettFavresColonoscopy

I am SHOCKED he got the right flag. I love when MAGA idiots accidentally bust out the Liberian flag when they talk about how much better they love this country than Libtards

Unsurprised

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BrettFavresColonoscopy

Evening, folks. I’ve been MIA for a bit, trying to stay on top of all the things and doing a piss poor job of it. Tonight’s big decision: do I abstain from alcohol on the red-eye so I can be ready to go tomorrow for work or do I seize the Polaris lounge and subsequent bar cart top shelf….

Sharkbait

Polaris lounge. No question.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

I started with the watermelon mocktail to buy optionality…

SonOfSpam

“watermelon mocktail”

Can only assume one chases that with some dick and a side of balls.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

I think you’d need the mocktail to chase away the taste of the dick and balls.

SonOfSpam

Yeah, I mean, who is this guy and how did he get in the clubhouse?

BeefReeferLives

If there’s some top shelf booze on that bar cart that you haven’t tried yet, you owe it to the spirit of exploration to try them…

Doktor Zymm

What a silly question, of course we will happily enable you! Have a glass of something tasty for me! (toasts you with my complementary mini bottle of generic red from E+ on ORD-SFO)

ballsofsteelandfury

Additional point: Most people under 28 don’t know what they want. That’s why there are entire industries built in exploiting those people (unpaid internships, anyone?) based on the same social expectations you mention.

God bless those that know what they stand for, know what they want, and are strong enough to not settle for less.

Those are few and far between.

King Hippo

I have long preached a similar rule. But I use 30 for men, 25 for women.

King Hippo

(and it’s been useful to explain “why are boys this way” to 2 of my daughters – the 3rd is excessively private like me)

SonOfSpam

Unpaid internships are gross on two levels; one, obviously, the company is getting free labor, but also…the “kids” who can afford to take an unpaid internship are generally the kids who already have trust funds and get yet another advantage over the poors.

It’s almost like the game is rigged for the haves from the start.

But also, great point about not knowing crap about yourself at that age.

Unsurprised

 Jakorian Bennett playing hot potato with a live ball 

@ RTD: Are there more details? I couldn’t find it based on this, but I’m sure it’s out there.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

During the Ravens final play they were lateraling the ball around and it ended up in his, uh, I don’t know, call it his “catch zone” and instead of grabbing it and falling on it and ending the game, he batted it to the ground like it was a hail mary pass or something.

King Hippo

I wanted some KHunt on waivers, and surprisingly GOTS SUM.

SonOfSpam

My team has terrific moral turpitude and I didn’t want to upset the delicate balance.

Also, I forgot.

Playing also-unbeaten DonT this week, should be a ballburner.

King Hippo

hey, Hippo is also 2-0! Ain’t sustainable, though.

litre_cola

What a bunch of shit. Kill Sirianni.

SonOfSpam

go birds

Unsurprised

Stop watching me!

scotchnaut

/so I was swimming across the lake again this evening
//this exchange is pretty much verbatim

[pontoon boat slowly approaches]

Guy: “Is everything ok?”

Me; “Everything’s good, I try to swim over to that small island all the time. Just making my way back now. [joking] I guess you must have thought there was a Beluga whale in this lake.”

Guy: “From way off, I thought you were a moose.”

Woman: “I figured you were a beaver-we had to find out.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0l3QWUXVho&ab_channel=StiffRecordsLtd

herodotus450

“No wonder all the krill is gone from this lake! “

BeefReeferLives

If by “krill”, you meant “hobos”, then sure.

ballsofsteelandfury

I really thought you were going to go with Primus:

https://youtu.be/aYDfwUJzYQg?si=4Os1nIA2GfHB2gok

SonOfSpam

Tremendous. Also, great timeless song.

Getting called a beavermoose makes one stabby I guess.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Did she offer to show you her beaver in return?

King Hippo

Not even a compliment re your buttery musculature?

scotchnaut

That is an astounding callback right out of left field!