Your “Stylin’ & Profilin'” Monday Night Football & Evening Open Thread

NFL News:

  • The pressure must have gotten to John Fox – it’s Truth Biscuit time in Chicago!
    • His first game will be next Monday night versus the Vikings.
  • With the Falcons bye week approaching, it appears Julio Jones – owner & wearer of the high flyin’ cleats in the banner photo – will not miss any time due to injury.
    • He hurt a hip flexor in the loss to Buffalo.
  • Based on stats through the first four games, Tom Brady is on track to be sacked 52 times this year.
    • To date, he’s been dropped 13 times. He was sacked for loss 15 times in all of the 2016 regular season.
  • The Seahawks got beat-the-hell-up last night in their victory over the Colts:
    • Left tackle Rees Odhiambo: Bruised heart.
      • HOW THE FUCK DID HE FINISH THE GAME?!
    • RB Chris Carson: Broken leg, below the knee
      • Done for the season
    • DE Cliff Avril: Pinched nerve; day-to-day
      • He lost feeling in his fingertips after an accidental kick to the head.
    • CB Jeremy Lane: Strained groin.
      • Day-to-day
  • As expected, Eagles fans took over the StubHub Center and turned an away game into home-field advantage. This Deadspin link has full audio of the debacle Eagles OT Jason Peters said “was like a home game”.

Finally, unrelated to football, it’s been a bad day for music fans. The 58 people killed at the Jason Aldean show in Las Vegas by a domestic terrorist, and news that Tom Petty is on life-support dead, have made for a very sad Monday.

I saw Tom Petty live once. It was the “True Confessions” tour with Bob Dylan in 1986.

    

It was pretty good. Each played 45 minutes on their own, and then combined for the final 30 minutes of the show. I owned that shirt for years; it eventually wore out.


Game Preview: Chiefs at [*Redacted] s

Tonight, two of the sports world’s finest ethnic slurs face off in Washington as the Kansas City Chiefs, owned by non-affiliated Christian & white male Clark Hunt, take on a Washington team owned by Jewish businessman & white male Dan Snyder.

Hunt, who lettered in soccer at Southern Methodist University in 1987, and therefore did not have any hand in the alleged murder of five hookers while Craig James definitely attended SMU between 1979-82, majored in business, worked at Goldman Sachs and was named head of Hunt Sports Group LLC when his father Lamar died. He shares ownership with his three siblings. He was influential in getting his father to back the creation of Major League Soccer, something that validated the league in its early days of operation.

Dan Snyder, a petty little man who has a tendency to sue any organization that writes untruthful things, is a businessman notorious for attempting to squeeze every penny out of the organizations he owns or belongs to as well as monetizing the fan base. I refer you to Dave McKenna’s piece from the Washington City Paper for more details. Snyder attempted to sue the paper & author for defamation, but the suit was withdrawn in the face of a SLAPP motion by the defendants. Currently surrounded by yes-men, he presides over a team that hasn’t done anything meaningful in the NFL since Joe Gibbs first discovered car racing.

The game itself should be a spirited affair, as Kansas City are the only remaining unbeaten team and Washington wants to keep pace with the Eagles & stay one game ahead of the Cowboys. Alex Smith is doing a commendable job holding back the tide wanting high draft pick Patrick Mahomes to come in & take the reins. Now that they have settled on a pronunciation, Washington is enjoying another Kirk Cousins franchise-tag year, as their recent devastation of the Raiders proved. They both have solid receiving corps, and while Washington has the advantage in the safety/corner department, they won’t be able to do much without being able to stop KC’s Kareem Hunt, who is the prime reason Alex Smith looks as good as he does.

It’s either going to be a 42-38 barnburner or a 7-6 slog. Gun to my head, I’d take the Chiefs.


Tonight’s sports:

  • NFL:
    • Washington at Kansas City – 8:15PM | ESPN / TSN
      • en español en ESPN2
  • WWE
    • Monday Night Raw – 8:00PM | USA / Sportsnet360

Baseball playoffs start tomorrow with the AL play-in game, followed by the NL game & NHL home openers Wednesday. WE’RE GOOD UNTIL FEBRUARY!

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Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

…and another stupid penalty by the [*Redacted] s.

Brick Meathook

That Nissan commercial was Maximum Millennial

Romonobyl

I’ve spent the day fighting with Nissan Motor Credit, I’ll never buy from them again. Too bad because I like the cars.

Gratliff

Fascinating day here in the [DFO].

Afternoon: “WELCOME NEW PEOPLE! YOU ARE LOVED HERE!”
Open Thread: *trial-and-error to find which topic will rip the kommentariat apart the most effectively*

Anyway, Patriots fans are actually good.

LemonJello

YOU MONSTER!

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

If I wasn’t so sick of seeing Raiders fans turning on the team, I’d check out the Patriots blog to see what kind of meltdown those guys are going through.

Gratliff

I’ve been browsing the comments section of the Big Blue View and Blogging the Boys and other alliterative NFC East blogs. It’s been fun.

Anthony In TX

You went too far.

JustStopDude

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Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Kind of neat to see Ron Swanson’s impression of Dean Spanos.

Buddy Cole's Halftime Show

Don’t worry I’m going to defend the Unabomber in the next hour, if I could just shave this beard and leave this shed.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

…and another [*Redacted] player is hurt.

LemonJello

Wounded Knee?

King Hippo

and how!

WCS

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Anthony In TX

They spelled “injun” wrong.

King Hippo

3 KHunt points! C’mon!!!

LemonJello

Any chance he’s the emergency/backup punter?

Yes then you could get KHunt punts.

Try the veal and remember to tip your waitress!

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

If there was even the slightest chance I could win my fantasy game I’d be happy to see good plays by Kareem Hunt.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Yeah, how the fuck is this asshole allowed to call his brother’s game?

hippofant

The most critical conflict of interest in the US today.

litre_cola

His son is a coach as well you see.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

His cousin is also the quarterba……. damn, can’t do it

the Alpha and the Amoeba

Every time they say Dunbar, all I can think of is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQCsdP2gkec

King Hippo

I have the teevee so low I can only hear the whistles. It’s disorienting.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

That’s how 80% of Fox News’ demographic experiences the world, but on their end it’s actually hearing loss.

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The last time I watched any FOX News was when I was in a hotel in Arizona and it was on in the eating area. I caught about five minutes of it and hooboy it’s a wild ride.

LemonJello

I got my tinnitus from firing machine guns without hearing protection – less traumatic brain damage than suffering through Fox News.

Brick Meathook

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Goddamn it I got out the whiskey.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

This just in: Chiefs opponent makes key mistake in critical late-game situation!

litre_cola

Andy reid coated that football with rib juice.

Romonobyl

Speaking of religion…
I have no problem with people believing in a higher power, but there is no way I’ll ever follow someone who claims to have it all figured out. We as a species are arrogant enough to think we know everything, but too fucking stupid to realize that would don’t know dick, so we make shit up.
That’s why I’ll never be part of an organized religion. That and football is on Sundays, and I can’t do the Judaism thing because bacon.

ballsofsteelandfury

To be fair, you’re in the land of stadium churches and televangelists.

I’m Catholic and my local priest doesn’t claim to know everything or have everything figured out. I’ve found that the religion is only as good as the local person that espouses its teachings.

Romonobyl

I’m fine with that. My wife is actively Catholic and her priest is an excellent man that also struggles with what I just posted. I fully respect my wife’s beliefs as I do anyone’s, I just have a problem when someone claims to understand God, like the mega-churches you mentioned.
Please don’t take my post as a disrespect for your beliefs and I apologize if that’s how it came out.

Buddy Cole's Halftime Show

POPE FRANCIS WILL BE MILDLY DISAPPOINTED AND THEN JUST DO HIS THING

ballsofsteelandfury

Nah, we’re cool. Moose is the one that thinks I’m crazy for finding something good in religion.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

That doesn’t distort what I have said at all.

Of course that is what de papists do ;]

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

To be fair, you’re in the land of stadium churches and televangelists.

True that; the US is one of the few rich countries that is highly religious.

JustStopDude

What I never really understood, despite being raised Catholic, is the notion of an all powerful, all knowing being that we could connect with on any sort of level.

So I am all powerful and all knowing. I know everything that can and will ever happen. How do I not go batshit insane instantaneously? I exist nonstop. No matter what I do, I know the results immediately before I do anything.

And can god make a burrito so big even he/she can’t eat it?

ballsofsteelandfury

Futurama

Buddy Cole's Halftime Show

This was one of my favorite Simpsons episodes ever.

http://babysimpson.co.uk/gallery/frames/4/9f01/397.jpg

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Yep. Especially when it flies in the face of evidence of near infinite dimensions.

ballsofsteelandfury

Evidence doesn’t have shit to do with teaching people to love one another, which is the core tenet of most of the big religions.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

I ain’t going to argue other than to say maybe you should revisit core tenets and those tenets put into practice. On second thought; if you are this old and still have that idea; just keep truckin’.

ballsofsteelandfury

Like I said before, religion is only as good as the local person. If you’re going by the Vatican’s decisions or by abuse scandals, then you’ll never find any good in religion. But there is more to it than that. If you don’t want to see it, keep on trucking.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

I never said religion can’t have good principles or that some of those practicing it cannot do good things; that’s what you put there. One doesn’t need religion to be good and moral, and on the organizational level, in practice throughout history the edge goes heavily to tribalistic, imperialistic, and destructive. If you are happy and secure in your beliefs that doesn’t really matter.

ballsofsteelandfury

Practice is always different from theory in everything, not just religion. Assholes distort good things and make them bad.

Romonobyl

Like there’s nothing better to do.

LemonJello

Distorted Assholes is good for both a FF team and a metal band name!

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

and that is prolly why we shouldn’t talk religion, which is my policy with several family members.

ballsofsteelandfury

agreed

Romonobyl

X2

Dick E. Phuck

“I can’t do the Judaism thing because bacon.”
I can, because I am badass. Also because I grew up keeping kosher.

Buddy Cole's Halftime Show

L’chaim bitches! Buddy always had the punim for bartending, I tell you!

ballsofsteelandfury

Plus circumcised penises!

Buddy Cole's Halftime Show

I like playing with foreskin though! It’s like opening a Babybel!

ballsofsteelandfury

THAT is banner material! ??

Dick E. Phuck

I’m also not really religious, and I don’t really believe in God. But, I also think those new Atheism people are complete assholes who I don’t want to share any views with. How do I reconcile those two views?

Buddy Cole's Halftime Show

Do PCP and comment here.

Dick E. Phuck

I already do that, but I just keep getting yelled at by my Dog and my Refrigerator.

LemonJello

Your dog seems alright, the fridge may be a Decepticon.

Buddy Cole's Halftime Show

DOG IS GOD BACKWARDS BRO

Dick E. Phuck

That’s why my Dog recited the Shema before she went to sleep!!

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Be a normal atheist like the vast majority.

Dick E. Phuck

Yeah, but so many atheists that I’ve run into are the types who quote Hitchens, Dawkins, and Harris unironically.

Buddy Cole's Halftime Show

I mean Brian Dawkins did have some quotables.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Well, the others usually don’t bring it up unless asked. Quotes are the oppposite of an in-depth analysis or conversation.

Brick Meathook

Become a Mormon

Gratliff

It’s funny. When things are less insane, I get more into the atheism community shit. Then the Ferguson shit fired up and I learned a whole bunch of atheists are actually comically racist. It was rather disappointing. There was one popular atheist account on Twitter I followed that actually asked the community why they can be skeptical of god, but not of black people being naturally predisposed to criminal behavior.

Buddy Cole's Halftime Show

The alt-right is not religious in the least from what I have seen.

Gratliff

In some cases, it was like years of literally nothing but talking about religion and philosophy and then BOOM Looney Tunes-era Jungle African caricatures. It was like someone pressed a button and set off a bunch of racist Manchurian zombies.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Maybe somewhat less than the KKK, but most believe they are essentially god’s children and others are the inferior mud people.

Dick E. Phuck

Now I have to see this guy’s twitter.

Gratliff

Thinking it was godless spellchecker, but I don’t want to be wrong and end up smearing the poor guy. It’s been a while.

Dick E. Phuck

Didn’t see anything about Black people. However, he does seem really concerned about Islam.

Gratliff

There were quite a few unfollows around that time for varying levels of bullshit, so it’s hard to remember who said what about what minority and in what ways they were a danger to good white women.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

There are plenty of racist of all ilks, but it is or should be more likely that a religiously skeptical person will be more inclined to accept scientific evidence and concepts. In particular genetics, which proves we are all brothers and sisters and the concept of race is without merit; it describes regional adaptations to climate and population isolation.

make it snow

Overthrowing a shovel pass is Alex Smith’s version of displaying arm strength.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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Case in point.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Puerto Rico in, Alabama out.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

As long as we build a wall.

Shogun Marcus

Rocket man it. What do we lose? A cancer cure? Not likely.

LemonJello

This whole Matrix we’re living in is just a couple more errors from a giant blue screen of death.

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I’m not convinced this isn’t what the blue screen actually looks like.

King Hippo

you could defeat him, if only you ran a TRUE Marxist to give a real contrast ,, smgdh

/sad thing is, Dems have the perfect candidate, a very honorable guy who tried the Birmingham church bombers, will be a miracle to hit 45% against this nut

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Honestly, a state like Alabama is the perfect place to try a far left candidate to see what happens. Just go full-on socialist and see how it affects turnout.

But I do think the candidate they chose is good.

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I’m just impressed that they found the one piece of shit in that state worse than Sessions.

Romonobyl

I’m not as liberal as many of you, but even I think this guy needs to fall off a cliff.

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He’s just vile.

LemonJello

There’s a wood chipper at the bottom of that cliff, right?

Dick E. Phuck

Surrounded by a river of Crocodiles, Temple of Doom style.

Romonobyl

Too merciful.

LemonJello

He catches fire before being s-l-o-w-l-y ground in a rusty wood chipper?

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Wood chipper dippin’?

Dick E. Phuck

The funny thing is, he looks exactly like the type of guy who would be peddling these bullshit views around.

the Alpha and the Amoeba

Speaking of hard Counts…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Wd-Q3F8KM

ballsofsteelandfury

It’s YouTube, so I know it’s not porn, yet I still think it’s porn.

the Alpha and the Amoeba

You’ll never know unless you try.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Andy Reid was horribly disappointed when Amazon delivered the “greaseboard” that he ordered.

theeWeeBabySeamus

Looking at the play chart on the sideline, Andy Reid looks like he’s looking at a menu with the pictures on it.

LemonJello

It’s actually covered with those candy buttons

WCS

Because that’s what it is.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

So I thought that Washington was going to blow this game with stupid turnovers, but it looks like they are going with stupid penalties instead.

King Hippo

just so long as they give it away, give it away now

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

What the fuck is wrong with you? You always go against the division in the regular season.

King Hippo

but then I’m out of DFO Suicide Pool!

/I forget that Donks could actually compete for division now that Carr is ded, you rite

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

You can rout for de chefs after the Donks miss the play-offs because of the seventh tie-breaker (coin toss).

LemonJello

1. What drugs are the Jack Links Jerky ad makers on?
b. Where can I get some?

/for research purposes, of course

WCS

I would recommend staying away from whatever Slim Jims were giving Macho Man Randy Savage.

LemonJello

explosive diarrhea, I imagine

the Alpha and the Amoeba

Hey, I’m the one who’s supposed to be wasting those!

-Andy Reid

JustStopDude

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Redshirt

Pat Robertson (after he dies): “I’m ready to meet my Maker. I am ready to…Hey why are the Gates to Heaven locked?”
Jesus: “Are you sure? I’m sure its open.”
Pat Robertson: “No, its locked.”
God: “Well, go to Hell. I’m certain Satan has a key laying around from when he was an Angel.”
Pat Robertson: “Okay, be right back.”

(Hell, Ohio)

(phone rings)
Satan: “Hello? Yeah! I told you he’d fall for it!”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/6b5c61c5-444e-3100-b696-ad1de50cd40b/ss_televangelist-pat-robertson%3A.html

blaxabbath

Just a reminder that, while the present is difficult, if we all just come together and hang in there then, statistically, we are headed towards a reality where about every 3 months or so we’ll be able to have a party on the fresh grave of one of these bastards. Robertson, O’Reilly, Hannity, Trump, InfoWars — it’s gonna be grand. And all their leaderless racist sheep with say, “oh that’s real classy” but DJ blax is just gonna turn up the bass to drown ’em out while OSZ sprays all the ladies in bikinis with Bud Light Limerita’s with Lime #turndownforBUD

JustStopDude

I personally love how he made up a shitty, diploma mill law school and then later Bush II hired a shitload of them to stock up the Federal Government over people that you know…actually went to ranked law schools…

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

We are still fucked over from that.

blaxabbath

It’s time for KC to abandon the run, no?

theeWeeBabySeamus

Abandon what now?
– A. Reid

theeWeeBabySeamus

I love awkward silences.

JustStopDude

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JustStopDude

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Romonobyl

I always shit myself when a .jpg suddenly turns into a .gif.

LemonJello

“I have to remember that for the next time.”
-N Davenport

LemonJello

“THIS KC DEFENSE I CALL AN UNCOMFORTABLE ALABAMA FAMILY REUNION BECAUSE THEY’RE TRYING TO FUCK COUSINS BUT CAN’T QUITE FIGURE OUT HOW TO CONSUMMATE THE ACT”

BrettFavresColonoscopy

THIS CHIEFS DEFENSE I CALL THEM AN ALABAMA 14 YEAR OLD BECAUSE THEY ARE GETTING TORN UP BY COUSINS

ballsofsteelandfury

Now THAT is a banner!

LemonJello

Bra-FUCKING-vo! This is so much better than mine.

WCS

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Jesus.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

14? That’s pretty old for Aleebamers.

LemonJello

She was faster than her cousins until the Achilles injury…

WCS

Impressive defensing, KC.

blaxabbath

Good keep Smithy!

::Checks fantasy opponent playing Hunt who I’m only up on by 7::

litre_cola

This tomahawk chop has gone back centuries, its nawt raycess!

Spur

Is Alex Smith is play worthy of an MVP?

Romonobyl

Gotta admit, boy can play.

JustStopDude

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WCS

Hey! Did you hack my webcam?!

LemonJello

“Pah. Manga wanjee kohkpah (ooohl) Peecha wahnjee kohkpa tahng nahngee toochantkee troi. (puhhh)”
-This fucking guy above

Romonobyl

Funny, man cave usually refers to a room, not a skin fold.

make it snow

Looks like Donald Trump’s not the only one who owes khunt owners an apology tonight.

theeWeeBabySeamus

This needs to be bannered please.

Spur

ALEX SMITH, THE KEEPER OF THE BALL FROM HILL

King Hippo

Andy Reid can go fuck hisself imo godbless

King Hippo

bailout BLEERGH

now POUND THAT KHunt

theeWeeBabySeamus

I got the pts I needed. Now I’m all in favor of KHunt for Hippo.

Doktor Zymm

hey now, I need my shitty lineup setting skills to be redeemed by some underperforming KHunt

theeWeeBabySeamus

Which joke…which joke….

/head explodes

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Andy Reid got the idea for the shovel pass when his wife admonished him for how quickly he was eating his dinner.

Spur

Rodgers loves those great ball handlers too.

Spur

gang bang on Alex Smith

Romonobyl

“Rib injury? What did he do, bite his tongue?”
-Andy Reid

LemonJello

“That just tenderizes the meat and makes it fall off the bone that much easier. I…I…oh, god, I’ve got to get to the buffet!”

-We All Know Who

Spur

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LemonJello

Peyton Manning in his high school’s production of West Side Story?

Romonobyl

Where is that woman with my cheese biscuits? I haven’t eaten in almost an hour!

Buddy Cole's Halftime Show

Buddy went to a panel discussion at Rutgers tonight entitled, “Identity politics: the new racialism on campus?” It was very good, a few people tried to shout it down or heckle but it was pretty subdued.

My biggest takeaway was that if the audience tonight is a microcosm of the left, the Democratic Party is going to keep losing elections en masse across the country. There were a couple Black Lives Matter protesters (a cause I am sympathetic to) and instead of coherent points it just devolved into “DISMANTLE THE SYSTEM! IMPERIALISM etc”. The white liberal guy gave a really good talk about how if you’re not in political power, your movements aren’t going to do a fucking thing. He kept saying to people, “Okay all those stats are true, how are you going to change or dismantle the system? I want to win elections, how are you going to get this enacted if you don’t win elections?”

King Hippo

YUP

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Did white liberal guy have an answer for that or is he just doing what so many liberals do and chide the left for not having power while simultaneously making it difficult for the left to gain it?

Buddy Cole's Halftime Show

Vote. Get active. Twitter doesn’t win elections or really do a damned thing in the long run. Have plans that go beyond Step 1.

He’s a crotchety old guy so he had no qualms getting louder than the people shouting.

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That’s about what I expected.

By the way, the organizing is happening on the left but it’s hard to much when the major party that claims to speak for you seem to love kneecapping popular movements whenever they can (see Tom Perez over Keith Ellison) and then lecturing the insurgents afterwards.

I don’t know if this guy is a Democrat or not, but I suspect he is because having a coherent vision for making people’s lives better matters *a lot* it was something sorely lacking in 2016 from a party that seemed to think it would win by default. Labour shocked everyone simply by putting out a manifesto of ideas and saying that they’ll do that if elected. It did wonders for turnout and even without a majority, Labour is a force people respect (and on the right, fear).

Buddy Cole's Halftime Show

I still think putting Corbyn at the head is political suicide.

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I heard that all summer along with projections the Tories would crush him.

Buddy Cole's Halftime Show

Well, the Tories had a political suicide move up their sleeve in the snap election.

King Hippo

and hard, purist left is just something that has never, ever worked in the United States. The Dems have ALWAYS been a coalition party, even during the New Deal. Progressive progress has always come from channeling the power of that coalition, and has required someone who knows how to navigate it (FDR, LBJ).

I think coalition building is a strength, not a weakness. I don’t buy the notion of “purges” and such.

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Until the manifesto was released, they were going to roll in the election. Once that came out, approval for Corbyn and Labour shot up (Corbyn was incredibly unpopular this spring). The Tories countered with their own manifesto but because they have mostly awful ideas, it blew up in their face. (Hello “dementia tax!”)

Anyway, May is awful and a terrible leader and their campaign manger (who managed Obama’s reelection in 2012!) was equally terrible.

Dick E. Phuck

I agree. People (particularly millennials and people of color) need something that galvanizes them to get out there and vote. It certainly wasn’t Hillary this past election, and the way the Democrats are approaching things so far, it looks like they’re not going to endorse a candidate that’s going to do that in 2020. But, anything can happen between now and then.

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Kamala Harris is eyeing the nomination eagerly and saying the things the left wants to hear. Will she making that into a campaign? I don’t know. Democrats are far too in love with political figures and not political ideas so I don’t trust any of them to follow through.

King Hippo

But that’s the system we have. It requires a good politician as much as the ideas they represent. That was, irony of ironies, the HillyBob problem. Nothing at all wrong with her ideas.

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Eh. I think her foreign policy was quite wrong and unpopular, but that’s another tangent.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Well, we have some great FP now.

ballsofsteelandfury

Disagree on her ideas. She was and is a war hawk.

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About the only time she ever showed passion discussing an issue was when she emphatically told people Single Payer would never, ever happen.

It’s why her campaign was so happy to run against Trump. They thought it would mean they could avoid campaigning on ideas altogether and they loved that.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Being a woman she had to appear so or be labeled “weak on FP”, we were already in two, it would not have gotten worse, even though status quo is terrible.

Buddy Cole's Halftime Show

Kamala Harris loved defending dirty prosecutors in California. She’s fucking awful.

And was against body cams on police.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Being pragmatic in one place can kill you in another.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

This country elected Trump; those people will not be convinced of anything logical. There might be some areas to gain a simple majority, but even if the best campaign is run with facts, logic, and ethics nothing substantive will change. And I looking at the positive.

Buddy Cole's Halftime Show

I think more people are undecided than you let on. I believe 50 counties that went from Obama twice switched to Trump this past election. And Trump got a lot more of the Hispanic vote that Romney did.

Hillary was just a fucking awful candidate, so much leftists even abstained from voting Democrat.

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Democrats are incapable of admitting the the Obama-Trump voters numbered in the millions because it would imply they lost those voters as opposed to them being unwinnable in the first place. It’s a indictment of their failure to offer a vision and, frankly, I don’t think the party realizes the West Wing is not real life and they need to stop modeling their political actions on it.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Sorry, but if they were persuaded to vote for Trump, they cannot be counted on for anything. Even if more progressive democrats win some seats there will be enough red to block anything substantive, in the next several elections. After that it will be too late.

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I refuse to believe one or even two-time Obama voters can not be counted on to vote Democrat again.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

If they voted for Trump; I doubt it, if they abstained, it is a possibility. If one voted for Trump there are serious underlying problems. I don’t really think there are many of these. It will be who gets their non-voters the most motivated. The democrats can’t win local or mid-term so it will not matter.

the Alpha and the Amoeba

By kneeling during the national anthem, duh.

Spur

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Doktor Zymm

Reminds me of a conversation I had with a Bernie Bro once. Blech

Romonobyl

The concept of middle ground is dead in American politics. “I’m right and you’re wrong” is far more critical to most people than “How can we make this work?”

Doktor Zymm

it’s kind of gotten forgotten amidst the racism, but Obama did capture the middle.

King Hippo

Obama was an absolute unicorn. God, how I miss that man.

/knows he not ded

King Hippo

what I want more than anything in a politician is a pragmatist.

Spur

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JustStopDude

Black children routinely get murdered by police for walking in public.

Any outcry against that…no matter how peaceful, gets labeled as violent.

Its really hard to listen to white people telling me that i need to keep buying into a system that targets me for incarceration and murder by cop.

Buddy Cole's Halftime Show

I will be honest, my view of the police has been dim for a while now, even way before Ferguson.

I don’t like interacting with them (for a variety of reasons, mental illness among them), and if I am pulled over even for a minute traffic stop, I will surreptitiously record them because (I’m allowed to in this state) I’ve read about enough police misconduct on all races to realize I am not exempt and that I really, really need to think twice before calling the cops for anything given how simple anxiety can be misread as, “Hey, are you hiding something?”

The shooting of Charles Kinsey really cemented my views because in addition to being a preventable shooting, the North Miami PD came out and said, “Oh it’s cool, we weren’t aiming for the black guy, but the non-verbal autistic man sitting five feet from him.”

JustStopDude

You want to fuck your son for life…name him “Jamal” or any other name that people think is black and he will never get an application through for a job.

Spur

Baseball?

Romonobyl

The fuck?

King Hippo

it’s poop

/Bitter #BFIB

Romonobyl

I won’t even admit to myself the things I would let Suzy Kolber do to me. I wouldn’t even let her convulsive vomiting get in the way.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

You would be OK; she’s small in stature and not THAT much of an angry pegger.

Romonobyl

That would be something I would usually rule out…usually.

Buddy Cole's Halftime Show

“Suz-zey, can I see your Ring of Honorrrrrr?”

Dick E. Phuck

This game, like when I have sex, has been two minutes of pure excitement.

litre_cola

For who?

Dick E. Phuck

Me, of course.

Senor Weaselo

Had my steak with decent amounts of my Ultra Death, and I’m pretty okay. Ladies and gentlemen, I think I’m back.

Dick E. Phuck

“Had my steak with decent amounts of my Ultra Death, and I’m pretty okay. Ladies and gentlemen, I think I’m back.”
– Andy Reid

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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litre_cola

Your stomach lining frightens me.

theeWeeBabySeamus

Andy Reid Eats Kicker at Halftime.

JustStopDude

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Spur

You’re missing an “S” in that sentence.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Well, this also applies to some of the women’s soccer team……. between periods.

Horatio Cornblower

That was a nice run but he got pile-drived, (pile-driven?), at the end of it.

WCS

Pile-droven

LemonJello

“Tomato, Tomahto, where do I sign up?”
-A. Rodgers, excitedly

Horatio Cornblower

Sounds like an Amish porn title.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

No nails.

Dick E. Phuck

Lucky Bastard
– Aaron Rodgers

Gratliff

The scientific term is “fucked up”

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

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