So Long, Tom: Your Tuesday Night Open Thread

It’s finally official. In light of the leaks, nobody’s really that surprised this time around.

Tom Brady is now officially retired from the National Football League. He entered as an unknown sixth-round draft pick, and left as the greatest player in the history of the sport.

While it’s true that I am a New England Patriots fan (which means that I have some baseline level of brain damage to begin with), and thus my words must always be taken with a grain of salt, the above statement is still nonetheless accurate.

Tom Brady, the man, leaves a complicated legacy. From Bridget Moynahan to the MAGA hat to DeflateGate to the pseudoscience sports medicine company, I will be the first to acknowledge that his actions have, quite rightfully, drawn a lot of ire, particularly from the legions of non-Pats fans and, especially, the denizens of this website.

Tom Brady, the player, has no such complicated legacy. He’s won more Super Bowls than anybody else. He holds every single passing record in the book. He’s had a single losing season in 22 years. He routinely took the discarded castoffs of other franchises and elevated them to greatness. It’s for these reasons, and these reasons alone, why nobody will ever come close to him.

Brady is the reason why I am a football fan in the first place. As some of you know, I am the youngest contributor to this website, and my history with football fandom is naturally much shorter than so many others. I wasn’t alive for the Steve Grogan era, and naturally have no memory of the Drew Bledsoe era either. The first Super Bowl I genuinely paid attention to was between the Kurt Warner-led Rams and a rookie Tom Brady… I was nine years old. Perhaps I was, indeed, jumping on a bandwagon… but if that’s the case, I’d argue I was the very first stop on the route.

Through two decades, Tom Brady was there on TV for me. Janet Jackson’s titty. The heartbreak and despair of David Tyree and Mario Manningham. The Aaron Hernandez saga. The Malcolm Butler interception.

I changed a lot in those decades too. Grade school. High school. College. Professional music. My first real classroom of my own.

And, most notably, I got to experience 28-3.

I have never told this story before, but that Super Bowl win, courtesy of the greatest fourth quarter comeback I’ve ever seen, ends up mirroring my own life almost perfectly beginning in that year.

I’d spent the previous eighteen months in an incredibly abusive relationship, which was still going on when Brady and the Patriots took home their fifth title. A few weeks after that win, I had a nervous breakdown. Almost every single day since that relationship began was one of relentless manipulation, control and belittling – and something in me just snapped. After yet another fight, I broke down crying at midnight one night in March, and called my mom. I felt ready to die. I couldn’t see any way out.

After hastily packing up all my things from that apartment while my ex-girlfriend was out at work the next day, and blocking her phone number and email, I spent the next six months just trying to find some semblance of normalcy – and thanks to intensive therapy and some aggressive SNRIs, I regained some equilibrium. (I also thank this wonderful community for being there this entire time – the open threads and late night PokerStars games meant a lot to me during this time.)

I will never be able to thank my mom and dad enough for yet again saving me in that dark part of my life – and letting me move back in with them when I truly needed it most. Watching that Super Bowl with them, a few weeks before that breakdown, was a real light in my life in a time when I felt that the walls were closing in. The first three quarters were, of course, incredibly awful to watch… and then, against all odds, hope. And then that breakthrough. The Matt Ryan strip sack. Julian Edelman’s miracle catch. James White’s surgical OT touchdown. And through it all, tying the whole thing together, was Tom Brady at his absolute peak. The high of that win gave me a few more weeks of positive vibes to block out the negativity swirling around the rest of my life.

I am still almost always of the mindset that you should never meet your heroes. Even with his greatness on the gridiron, Tom Brady still is no exception to that mindset. Perhaps it’s better that way that Brady maintains that celebrity mystique and aura; that way, it won’t tarnish my own memories of watching him play. Tom Brady may not be the platonic ideal of who I want to be, or who I want my children to be, but I think I will still always be grateful for him providing me with some positive lessons all the same – the drive and desire to be the best in your profession, the ability to elevate the performance of those around you, and the perseverance required to push through adversity.

It’s no skin off my back for anyone else to hate Tom Brady – I understand. Hell, I’ll probably agree with you. As I’ve previously mentioned, there’s no shortage of reasons to choose from.

Tom Brady may be a flawed human being, but so am I. In the last five years, though, I think I’ve learned how to be my best self – and when I was at my absolute rock bottom, I am grateful for the fact that I had Brady, the Patriots, and 28-3 to remind me that it does get better, just so long as you’re willing to take that next step.

I don’t know what an NFL without Tom Brady is going to look like – but I know that for better or worse, the bar he’s set is not likely to be broken, ever. I’m grateful to have seen him play, and will miss watching him immensely.

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OK, time to be funny. GET TO IT, SCRUBS.

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NFL NEWS:

  • Green Bay is letting special teams coordinator Maurice Drayton go. After a blocked punt and blocked field goal in their Divisional Round game against the 49ers, that’s no shocker.
  • With Brian Daboll off to the New York Giants, the Buffalo Bills promoted Ken Dorsey to be their new OC.
  • KC Chiefs GM Brett Veach has made it a priority to retain S Tyrann Mathieu, LT Orlando Brown, and EDGE Melvin Ingram this offseason; after the Chiefs turned around their defense after a rocky start, it’s essential they keep their defensive playmakers happy if they want to challenge for the AFC conference title again next year.

ON TV TONIGHT

ICE FOOTY:

Seattle at Boston 7:00pm Root Sports
NESN
San Jose at Tampa Bay 7:00pm NBCS-CA
Bally Sports
Washington at Pittsburgh 7:00pm NBCS-WSH
ATTSN-PIT
Florida at NY Rangers 7:00pm ESPN+
HULU
Winnipeg at Philadelphia 7:00pm Sportsnet
NBCS-PHI
Toronto at New Jersey 7:00pm MSG
Sportsnet
Ottawa at NY Islanders 7:30pm Sportsnet
MSG+
Vancouver at Nashville 8:00pm Bally Sports
Sportsnet
Calgary at Dallas 8:30pm Bally Sports
Sportsnet
Arizona at Colorado 9:00pm Bally Sports
ALT2
Buffalo at Vegas 10:00pm ESPN+
HULU

ROUNDBALL:

New Orleans at Detroit 7:00pm Bally Sports
Washington at Milwaukee 7:30pm TNT
Miami at Toronto 7:30pm Sportsnet
Bally Sports
Orlando at Chicago 8:00pm NBCS-CHI
Bally Sports
Denver at Minnesota 8:00pm ALT
Bally Sports
Golden State at San Antonio 8:30pm Bally Sports
NBCS-BAY
Brooklyn at Phoenix 10:00pm TNT

JV ROUNDBALL:

Boston College at Virginia 6:00pm ACCN
Creighton vs. UConn 6:30pm FS1
Kansas at Iowa State 7:00pm ESPN
Michigan State at Maryland 7:00pm ESPN2
South Carolina at Mississippi State 7:00pm ESPNU
Texas A&M at Tennessee 7:00pm SECN
Rutgers at Northwestern 7:00pm BTN
Davidson at St. Bonaventure 7:00pm CBSSN
Richmond at Duquesne 7:00pm ESPN+
Kent State at Miami (OH) 7:00pm ESPN+
Bowling Green at Central Michigan 7:00pm ESPN+
North Carolina at Louisville 8:00pm ACCN
Seton Hall at Georgetown 8:30pm FS1
Alabama at Auburn 9:00pm ESPN
Texas at Texas Tech 9:00pm ESPN2
Tulsa at Wichita State 9:00pm ESPNU
Ole Miss at LSU 9:00pm SECN
Nebraska at Michigan 9:00pm BTN
Providence at St. John’s 9:00pm CBSSN
UC Davis at UC Riverside 10:00pm ESPN+
California at Stanford 10:00pm PAC12N
Nevada at UNLV 10:30pm FS1
Fresno State at San Jose State 11:00pm CBSSN

LESSER FOOTY:

World Cup Qualifying: Japan vs Saudi Arabia 5:10am Paramount+
World Cup Qualifying: Vietnam vs China 7:00am Paramount+
World Cup Qualifying: Lebanon vs Iraq 7:00am Paramount+
World Cup Qualifying: Iran vs United Arab Emirates 9:30am Paramount+
World Cup Qualifying: Oman vs Australia 11:00am Paramount+
Scottish Premiership: Hibernian vs Hearts 2:45pm Paramount+
World Cup Qualifying: Bolivia vs Chile 3:00pm fuboTV
World Cup Qualifying: Uruguay vs Venezuela 6:00pm fuboTV
World Cup Qualifying: Argentina vs Colombia 6:30pm fuboTV
World Cup Qualifying: Brazil vs Paraguay 7:30pm fuboTV
Liga de Expansión MX: Pumas Tabasco vs Celaya 8:05pm TUDN
World Cup Qualifying: Peru vs Ecuador 9:00pm fuboTV
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The Maestro
The Maestro is a mystical Canadian internet user and New England Patriots fan; when the weather is cooperative and the TV signal at his igloo is strong enough, he enjoys watching the NFL, the Ottawa Senators & REDBLACKS, and yelling into the abyss on Twitter. He is somehow allowed to teach music to high school students when he isn't in a blind rage about sports, and is also a known connoisseur of cheap beers across the Great White North.
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Gumbygirl

We are signing the last papers, and doing a final walkthrough on our new house on Thursday. What a long strange trip it’s been!

TheRevanchist

Brady is the greatest ever. That’s all that really needs said.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

“Tom Brady, the player, has no such complicated legacy.”

Counterpoint: The Tuck Rule

rockingdog

Last funny;

A little doggie told me the new team name for the Washington NFL Football team is…
The Commanders

LOL

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I feel like when a dog says “LOL” it should be “ROTFL” because it’s so close to “ROLF”.

Gumbygirl

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BugEyedBoo

@Maestro: I don’t think a 9-year-old rooting for a winner counts as bandwagon jumping. A 57-year-old changing teams when they win (Hi, brother!) counts.

A friend of mine became a Dolphins fan in the ’72 season. He’s my age. His car has an MDOLPHINS license plate. And he’s lived in Central Ohio all his life. Bleeds orange and teal. Maybe he should have it looked at.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

The interesting thing about the Stephen Ross tanking allegations is that the man has a reputation for bankrolling losers:

https://dolphinnation.com/2020/08/28/stephen-ross-responds-criticism-hosting-donald-trump-fundraiser/

Gumbygirl

Maybe when he was a kid he thought it was Miami, Ohio?

BugEyedBoo

Knowing him, entirely possible.

Beerguyrob

Now I’m glad I bought you that beer.

TheRevanchist

He’s not old enough to drink yet.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

[is heartened to hear that his words meant something to someone] – Trent Green

Brick Meathook

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Game Time Decision

Just read that Brady never lost to the Vikings, Cowboys, Falcons, Patriots and Bucs. That’s amazing.

Senor Weaselo

Well, never losing to the P*ts not so much.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Pfft. Neither have I.

rockingdog

Hahahaha

Flores says that Stephen Ross, the owner of the Miami Dolphins, offered to pay him $100,000 for every loss during 2019 season to help the team get a better draft spot. Was mad when they kept winning.

Redshirt

I would’ve asked for it in contact and added three coach-option-only years.

litre_cola

That may get the rich man’s knuckles rapped. DURRR against honest competition.

BugEyedBoo

Stolen from Defector: Ross being a billionaire and all, why did he cheap out? Should have offered $1M per loss; that would have got Flores’ attention.

ballsofsteelandfury

Because billionaires don’t get to be billionaires by giving money away. They’re notoriously cheap.

BugEyedBoo

I want to say I read this anecdote in “Hackers” (Steven Levy, not the ESPN guy), that took place back when Bill Gates would still rub shoulders with hoi polloi. Gates is holding up the line at a store, arguing with the checkout clerk over a coupon, and the guy (knowing damn good and well that this was Bill Gates in front of him), says, “Here!” and throws a dollar on the counter to make this line move again. BillG takes it.

ballsofsteelandfury

I believe it.

herodotus450

Now’s the perfect time for that invention that replaces all ‘m’ sounds with ‘t’ sounds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrbv40ENU_o

Redshirt

“So long, Tot?”

Taybe I’t confused here.

SonOfSpam

That was the original title of that Clapton song.

Redshirt

Ah. Thank you, SonofSpat.

rockingdog

Found a funny;

Textbook example of what happens when you maintain expanded Unemployment Insurance for a few months, and start hand out $1400 checks.

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Redshirt

Do nothing. Get paid. Hang out on yacht.

Who do they think they are? Their congressmen?!

Brick Meathook

1961 Volkswagen 23-Window Bus

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Brick Meathook

62 version

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BugEyedBoo

My mom’s boyfriend had a VW bus, way back when I was in high school. Riding up front in that thing and being the scene of the accident always made me a little nervous.

He was a nice guy, but a little lacking in the gumption department. Something went a little haywire in the clutch linkage/pedal/whatever, and it wouldn’t rise up after it was pressed. So he tied a length of clothesline to the clutch pedal, and whenever he pressed the clutch he’d drag the pedal back up with that clothesline. After a while something similar happened to the brake pedal, and he tied another piece of clothesline to the brake pedal. Now he’s driving with a rope in each hand, like he’s riding a horse or something, just yanking away on those ropes.

Redshirt

Nicely written about Tom Brady.

The player: No question. He is one of the best. As a rule, I never compare players from different eras as the rules and styles are just too different. However, Brady is up there with the elite and easily the top player for his era. Also, as a teammate, he seemed to genuinely care about his teammates while at the same time setting an example of the standard he wants.

As for the person: I define him as two persons, the Tom Brady from New England and the Tom Brady from Tampa Bay. The Tom Brady from New England seemed smug and arrogant, almost like the rules were different from others. When Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay, it was almost like he was for the first time allowing himself to relax. I’m not certain if its because it was a different club and culture, or if he saw his career had more years behind him than in front and was allowing himself to enjoy it while it lasted.

So long, Tom. See you in Canton or on TV.

rockingdog

I won a Tom Brady Jersey in a raffle when I moved out to New England 6 years ago.
I still have that Jersey!

Now it’s “Vintage.”

Fashion is Rockingggg 💯

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Brick Meathook

Happy Tet Offensive Holiday!

This guy had the Worst. Tet. Ever.

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Senor Weaselo

He did not have a tip-top Tet.

Gumbygirl

He had a top tap Tet.

scotchnaut

“Thanks for the reminder, Brick! You’re aces in my book!”

-Henry Kissinger, trying desperately to rub one out

Brick Meathook

This guy is thinking “Dang! I get the shittiest assignment in the attack, and then I get caught and handcuffed, and now I’m getting paraded through the streets. Can this day possibly get any worse?”

Ron Howard’s Voice: “Yes it can”

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Redshirt

I know you’re joking about this, and the jokes are good, but for me, this picture infuriates me. Most people say this one picture cost them the war. My opinion is, if this is the type of democracy we’re fighting to give them guys, then maybe we should sit this one out.

My great uncle was MIA in Vietnam. I’m pretty certain this wasn’t what he died for.

Brick Meathook

You should read the true story behind this event, particularly by photographer Eddie Adams.

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Senor Weaselo

Well, even though I’m not there, you can tell I’ve been accepted by Senorita Weaselo’s family, because they gave me a red envelope for Lunar New Year.

JimU

Unfortunately it was filled with mailer coupons instead of cash. Maybe next year!

Horatio Cornblower

Yeah, uh, that’s why I played poker so badly in the DFO room. I was, uh, trying to help.

Sharkbait

I legit forgot that was a thing, and I am somehow admin….

Horatio Cornblower

Once tWBS took his chips to that Big Table In The Sky it sort of petered out. No one loved losing piles of fake money like Seamus.

WCS

He and I would join the same tournaments, and send each other our pocket cards if/when we got to the same table. It worked like half the time.

Senor Weaselo

Hey, playing bridge while everyone else is playing poker, that’s new and exciting.

Redshirt

That’s why I stopped playing poker at the local casinos. I started good when I didn’t know what I was doing. All of a sudden, I started thinking and I turned into an ATM for everyone else at the table. It took me a few years to figure it out, sadly.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Tonight’s soundtrack as I go over our household expenses for January.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DhBUauCR5k

scotchnaut

Can I set up my very, very favorite Brady quote? (the Pats were 18-0 at the time)

Plaxico: “We’ll win 23-17.”

Brady: “We’re only going to score 17 points? Haha. Okay.”

Ron Howard: “The Pats scored 14 points that day.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhw_YLGmvKw&ab_channel=patriotsfootballplc

ballsofsteelandfury

Great story! I think the best thing about sports is that they show you that if you never give up, good things will happen. That 28-3 win is a perfect example. Some might say last week’s Bengals win is another example.

I’m glad you never gave up and pushed through the heartache and pain. The other side is worth it, isn’t it?

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

> if you never give up, good things will happen.

“That’s what always tell my quarterbacks!” – Mike Shanahan

Horatio Cornblower

“if you never give up, good things will happen.”

-“This is my motto, too!” -Ben Rothlisberger

Gumbygirl

Happy Lunar New Year!
https://youtu.be/Ak_MTXQALa0

scotchnaut

My working theory is that Al Stewart never wanted to be famous (Nick Drake nods in agreement) but just wanted to do his thing. That tune and this one are completely brilliant in every respect but were overplayed into oblivion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm6TsYypBpY&ab_channel=31323Alex

Gumbygirl

He is an amazing songwriter, the whole Year of the Cat album is perfection. I lost my copy in a flood, I need to find another one.

King Hippo

In other words, any and every year. – Kruger D. and Noodles D., in unison

Gumbygirl

Henry concurs.

Senor Weaselo

Love ya buddy. Glad you made it through to the other side.

The Right Reverend Electric Mayhem

That was really quite moving Maestro. Thank you

Also:

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Sharkbait

Glad you made it through and are here with us Maestro. Very well written.

scotchnaut

As someone who was with a “Gaslighter” for far too long, it warms my heart that you were able to get out, move on and know that you deserved better than that shit.

Gumbygirl

Oh, honey boy. As the mom of a son who did not make it out of the darkness, let me tell you how very glad I am that you did. You deserve better than that, and don’t you ever let anyone make you feel that way again. Hugs to you!

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Very well written, Maestro.

Now with the aim of forgetting Tom Brady as quickly as possible, if it’s true that the WFT is to become the “Commanders” can we collectively agree to refer to them as the “Commies” moving forward?

herodotus450

Or the Lieutenant-Commanders, to insult them just a little bit.

Sharkbait

Communism is just a red herring

Senor Weaselo

It’s Cheat Commandos, but they’re not gonna rock, rock on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXVCkygoKWE

Gumbygirl

They should call them The Commodores, because they’re Easy on Sunday Morning.

ballsofsteelandfury

Oh that’s good!

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

That’s good, but it’s too many syllables. How about we abbreviate it as the Commodes?

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JimU

How soon after Brian Flores sued the NFL for discrimination did the Texans call the league office asking if it was still ok for them to hire Josh McCown?

SonOfSpam

lol everyone’s talking about football and here you are with your imaginary teams

JimU

The Texans are like if the Gemstones owned a football team. Unfortunately, Bob was Eli and Cal is Jesse.

Don T

I started hating less Brady by Deflategate. That Indy game was close with deflated balls, then Brady played with regulation balls in the 2nd half and smoked the Clots. As a “purity of the game” thing, it was a nothing pile of crap. But the NFL overreacted and demanded Brady to surrender his cellphone. Tom destroyed it–a champion move in my book.

Wonderful post, Maestro. This goes great with the Dorian Gray Pats preview a while back. And great decision to move out your stuff when alone. Tradition dictates taking your shit out while being screamed at and shoved.
According to the literachure, of course.

scotchnaut

“We got together and discussed things, and we’ve all agreed-that 11th paragraph is probably the most amazing curveball we’ve ever seen.”

-“Sandy Koufax, Bert Blyleven, Satchel Paige, John Smoltz, Luis Tiant, Greg Maddux, etc.

SonOfSpam

Hey Maestro, thanks for sharing. So happy you got help, got away from the insanity, and are still with us in our little fucked up community!

And fuck Tom Brady sideways with a fireplace poker.