In his 2022 World Cup Quarterfinal Open Thread, the esteemed Mr. King Hippo, Esq. came up with a pretty good idea for how to handle the addition of 16 teams for the next World Cup to be hosted in Canadia, México, and the United States in 2026. When you have a field of 48 teams (was that a subtle dig at North America to point out that we are fat and bloated?), it’s going to be a different organization.
Hippo invited us to come up with another system and I took him up on the challenge, posting a comment showing how 8 groups of 6 teams would work. I did that just off the top of my head, but the more I thought about it, the more it made sense. Hence, I put some more time and effort into figuring out exactly how it would work. This post is the result of that effort.
Hippo will be coming along shortly to peer review, provide constructive criticism, and judge me WASPily for my over-indulgence/promotion of the anal arts.
First, let’s set up the groups:
GRUPO A | GRUPO B | GRUPO C | GRUPO D | GRUPO E | GRUPO F | GRUPO G | GRUPO H |
1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 |
3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 |
6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 |
That’s 48 teams. FIFA has not determined the qualification process yet, but it ultimately doesn’t matter. My assumption is that the 8 teams labeled “1” will be the seeded teams, as is tradition.
If you have 8 groups of 6 teams each, that means that each team in the Group Stage will play 5 times. This is great news for México because they will finally get to play that fifth World Cup game they’ve been so desperate to play!
It does, however, mean that the Group Stage could take forever. Currently, there is a maximum of 4 games played per day. In order to keep the length of the tournament to a reasonable timeframe, we will need to increase this to a maximum of 5 games per day. That will not only be more fun for everyone, but it will allow us to stay on a relatively good schedule. The table below shows how the Group Stage games would play out:
FRIDAY | SATURDAY | SUNDAY | MONDAY | TUESDAY | WEDNESDAY | THURSDAY |
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
A | B | D | F | G | A | C |
A | C | D | F | H | A | C |
A | C | E | F | H | B | C |
B | C | E | G | H | B | D |
B | D | E | G | A | B | D |
8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 |
D | F | H | A | C | E | F |
E | F | H | B | C | E | G |
E | G | H | B | D | E | G |
E | G | A | B | D | F | G |
F | G | A | C | D | F | H |
15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 |
H | B | C | E | G | H | B |
H | B | D | E | G | A | B |
A | B | D | F | G | A | C |
A | C | D | F | H | A | C |
A | C | E | F | H | B | C |
22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 |
D | E | G | ||||
D | F | G | ||||
D | F | H | ||||
E | F | H | ||||
E | G | H |
In what may have been a coincidence, luck, or just beautiful design, the Group Stage ends for all teams on the 24th day of competition. You will note that I put in the days of the week in the table in a weird order. There is a reason for that and I’ll discuss that a little bit later.
Considering we have 24 uninterrupted days of nonstop fútbol, I think that’s a winner! I mean, ain’t no one working for those 24 days!
In order to accommodate the 5 games a day, we will need to schedule the game start times as follows:
- 9 AM Pacific (Game held in the East Coast with a start time of noon Eastern)
- Noon Pacific
- 3 PM Pacific
- 6 PM Pacific
- 9 PM Pacific (Game held in the West Coast)
It’s now a good time to look at the cities that will be hosting games:
You have an abundance of stadiums in the East Coast, so the restriction of having those early games only in the East Coast can be accommodated. On the other side of the country, however, there are only 4 stadiums on Pacific time. They will need to split up the 24 night games, so each city should get 6 games. That seems cool and fair.
Now, let’s consider the Knockout Bracket. In my proposal, I go NHL-style and allow half the teams to move on to the Knockout Round. The Group winners get an automatic bye into the Round of 16 while the 2nd and 3rd place teams play each other. To make things interesting and even, the Group winners go to the other side of the bracket from their groups. It looks like this:
- K1 = 2A v 3B
- K2 = 3A v 2B
- K3 = 2C v 3D
- K4 = 2D v 3C
- K5 = 2E v 3F
- K6 = 2F v 3E
- K7 = 2G v 3H
- K8 = 2H v 2G
- R1 = K1 v 1H
- R2 = K2 v 1G
- R3 = K3 v 1F
- R4 = K4 v 1E
- R5 = K5 v 1D
- R6 = K6 v 1C
- R7 = K7 v 1B
- R8 = K8 v 1A
- Q1 = R1 v R2
- Q2 = R3 v R4
- Q3 = R5 v R6
- Q4 = R7 v R8
- S1 = Q1 v Q2
- S2 = Q3 v Q4
- F = S1 v S2
Here is how the schedule would run for the remaining games:
FRIDAY | SATURDAY | SUNDAY | MONDAY | TUESDAY | WEDNESDAY | THURSDAY |
22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 |
D | E | G | K1 | K5 | R1 | |
D | F | G | K2 | K6 | R2 | |
D | F | H | K3 | K7 | R3 | |
E | F | H | K4 | K8 | R4 | |
E | G | H | ||||
29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 |
R5 | Q1 | Q3 | S1 | S2 | ||
R6 | Q2 | Q4 | ||||
R7 | ||||||
R8 | ||||||
36 | 37 | 38 | ||||
3rd Place | FINAL |
If you get drawn into the E, F, G, and H groups and finish 2nd or 3rd, you will get some shorter rest days in the knockout rounds, but all in all, it’s not that bad. As Hippo says, this will really test the teams’ depth.
As you can see now, I put the Days of the Week in the order I did so as to ensure that the World Cup Final is played on a Sunday, as God intended.
What say you, Sir Hippo? Please note that this post was written using Block Editor, the far superior editor in WordPress. Please note that I have included here a “Classic Paragraph” block so you can post away your thoughts:
Hippo’s Thoughts
Seriously, there’s not much for Hippo to critique, Mr. Wrong Hole! I do suggest 30 man rosters, which is a nod to modern footy anyway (ie, the value of substitutes and player rotation). Try as I may, I can’t figure out a workable method to enforce more rotation, but this format very properly encourages same. This is also a highly wonderful header pic, and I would love to apologize to her someday. The TV folks will love the new arrangement, wall-to-wall coverage (like the NCAAT used to be).
What say the rest of you?
New thread is alive and kicking.
Son: Wow, (favorite ski resort) got 27″ last night!
Me: Sounds like your ski resort and your Mom have something in common.
Son: Jesus Christ.
Son: “I didn’t my uncle was in town.”
Huh. I thought dwarves were a little taller than that.
You did her nine times???
Well that’s just fantastic. Took a COVID test to see if I’m clear (I feel mostly fine by now) and it lit up like a goddamned Christmas tree.
…maybe you’re Super Negative.
Rest up. Hydrate up.
[eyes bottle of whiskey that contains 60% water]
Tis the season!
Hats off to Morocco for making it as far as they did.
*fezzes
“Hey, getting Fezzes off is *my* thing.” – Lindsay Lohan
I bet she gives great helmet.
Cincy’s QB is panicking on every snap.
THIS GUY REDSHIRT I CALL HIM BILLY PILGRIM BECAUSE HE HAS BECOME UNSTUCK IN TIME AND IS SEEING THINGS NOW THAT HAPPENED A YEAR AND TWO YEARS AGO AND WILL ALSO HAPPEN TOMORROW AND NEXT WEEK.
Two teams on the same sideline, separated by only 10 yards. What could possibly go wrong?
If it was in Ohio, I’d say “cancer caused by a toxic chemical spill.” But the game is at Fenway Park in Boston, so I’m going to guess it would be related to something one of the racist fans did. Like maybe one of the players slips on a banana peel that was thrown from the bleachers?
Kentucky? The horses get into the whiskey and runs amuck.
Don’t be silly, Rikki.
No one from Boston is at this game.
I’ve always found it odd the way that soccer players are allowed to touch the referee (putting a hand on his chest, etc). Pretty much any other sport I can think of that’s going to be a foul if not an immediate disqualification.
Same here. I like how in rugby the ref will only speak to the captains.
Yeah that and the dives really distract from the play. If I were in charge of FIFA I’d change that crap tomorrow. Touch a ref = yellow card and start enforcement of the yellow card for diving /academy award posturing.
I would like to start an endowment for your campaign to be in charge of FIFA.
I fully endorse the Balls World Cup.
3-team groups are a terrible joke.
JV Cincy and Winthorpe-ville are about to kickoff a bowl version of the Keg of Nails Rivalry but I also call it the Satterfield Bowl or Interim Bowl since UC went next level strategy and hired their bowl opponent’s coach. Who else would have better insight?
Your rivalry trophy is an IED??
You’ve obviously never been to Downtowns Cincinnati and Louisville.
Both teams are treating the ball like an IED to start.
One presumes MAROC would be more appreciate of winning Bronze than the Ustase?
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My only quibble is teams having only 2 off days between matches in the knockout rounds. It’s one thing to test depth, it’s another to run them into the ground and injuries.
I think that’s where Hippo’s expanded roster comes in, but it will also allow the deeper countries, (i.e. Germany, Brazil, England), to run train on lesser countries, (like the US, sadly). Basically 48 teams is a bad idea from a competitive stand point.
From a “let Horatio watch international soccer until his eyes bleed” however, it’s a fantastic idea.
Yep, it’s meant to encourage MOAR squad rotation. I am not so sure that it puts “minnows” at that much of a disadvantage. Their main drawbacks seemingly are “nobody the calibre of Mbappe” as opposed to only having 11 legitimate footballers..
Depth is one thing. But if you’re France, are you sitting Mbop?
Otherwise a R5-R8 team that makes the final will play 4 knockout games in 8 days.
SATURDAY FOOTBALL! I totally forgot! Mother! Healer! Secret lover!
THREE fixtures, plus 4 rando JV exhibitions. Should make up for last Saturday’s wasteland.
It is Daddy Deci day as Mrs. Cola is getting her full sleeve coloUred in for session 5. We have swimming lessons (not me it is a life skill dammit) then Ninja gymnastics (I wish it was me), then haircuts and a little trip to a brewery as they have home made soda which he likes! This is a dog friendly brewery so there is dogs to play with while imbibing!
Mr. Ballen is talking cocaine bear this morning.
Programming Alert: the lowly Ottawa Sensators (13 wins, 16 total losses) face off against the surging Detroit Red Wings (13 wins, 10 regulation losses) in what should be a bloodbath.
The Sens are 5-1-1 in the month of December. It’s all coming together, the Motor City Morons don’t have a chance.
Of course next week when I am in town they are away playing Winnipeg… smdh
so lowly they can’t even spell their own team’s name correctly smh what a bunch of clowns
FIFA pitching expansion:
DFO Lesser Footy Contingent:
(artist’s conception)
I like this. I will be in CDM for games as I turn 50 and I ain’t goin to Toronto or Van.
What good is a world cup idea of you don’t have the bribe money to make it happen?
-Chuck Blazer
I say 48 teams is just too damned many. You’re gonna have countries like Burkina Faso or Rand McNally go up against countries like Germany or Brazil and you’d see scores of 19-0 and such. Just have 40 teams, and the lowest 16 have to play a single knockout game to get into the group stages, and then we’re back to the current formula, which works nicely.
What’s the downside of a 19-0 match on tv?
I don’t know, seeing a dickhead like Ronaldo strutting around after scoring nine goals against a country that can’t afford normal soccer balls so they train with ones made out of fermented milkweed husks?
Same as Georgia playing McNeese State two weeks after Halloween.
I see someone didn’t get to bask in the joy of the USWNT running around celebrating their 7th, 8th, and 9th goals while pasting a clearly overwhelmed Thai team.
Rooted against them ever since.
Miami and Buffalo are playing this evening with a lake effect snow warning in place. Beloved blizzard game, we might just have one.
I will arrange my drinking accordingly.
SEE BALLS, this is the kind of genius thoughts one can produce when you lay off all that nasty BUTT STUFF smh